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2017-11-22, 11:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I
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Well, it seems that life has deposited me here, yet again. Hopefully this time I get to stay a while, as I intend on revising some old homebrew.
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2017-11-22, 11:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-11-22, 01:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I
I guess there would be a witch made of sand that cooks sandwiches?
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2017-11-26, 09:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I
Voting seems slow, so I just want to make sure everyone is aware that the voting thread is up here.
My homebrew:
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ToB disciplines:
The Narrow Bridge
The Broken Blade
Prestige classess:
Disciple of Karsus -PrC for Karsites.
The Seekers of Lost Swords and the Preserver of Future Blades Two interelated Tome of Battle Prcs,
Master of the Hidden Seal - Binder/Divine hybrid
Knight of the Grave- Necromancy using Gish
Worthwhile links:
Age of Warriors
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2017-11-29, 07:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I
Tomorrow is the last day for voting, keep in mind if you do not vote your entry will be disqualified from the voting thread.
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2017-11-29, 06:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I
I forgot about this for a while... oops.
@JoshuaZ, thanks for your critiques, but it is sadly to late for that to make much of a differenceMuad'drin tia dar allende caba'drin rhiadem! Los Valdar Cuebiyari! Los! Carai an Caldazar! Al Caldazar!
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2017-11-29, 10:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I
Thanks for the complements! And it's not that it has a lot of thought put into it, it's that I ran some numbers to make sure it wasn't going to be busted. The point of the Primal/Druid-type-Divine casting stacking with Animal Companion was to give some better control over hit dice allocations, as the SRD Swarms fall off in usefulness soon after you can enter the PRC in the first place.
See, one of the things I planned was to have a generalized Swarm setup to make Hive Minds and Hive Masters suffer fewer problems from the honestly horrible selection of Vermin Swarms. But that quickly grew to become rather hard to work with as a monster entry, so I started trying to rework it as a monster "class" to reduce mechanical complexity. And then I got distracted by my old Crysmal monster class that I wanted to make a proper set of three racial substitution levels for and... Yeah.
Orders... Didn't think crunch was really needed, as a lot of summon spells don’t bother specifying how orders are given. It's generally assumed to be automatic and no-particular-power-source-telepathic. As for action requirements, a cursory glance kinda brings up fundamental issues with the lack of an action requirement. Swift Action would kinda cut needs for Quickened Spell in anti-Vermin situations, and lets the caster continue working properly. It's also easy enough to get extras of that you can reliably have multiple attempts at the start of a fight.
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2017-11-30, 05:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I
The spellcasting on the 3rd level ability is intentional, because the 3rd level ability is the casting progression mechanic. It's to force losing at least one level of casting for the minimum control cap. There's also two clauses preventing whatever build you're thinking of. Your effective level for any parameter can not exceed your character level from Motes of Power, nor can you take a penalty to Will saves higher than your base Will save bonus from hit dice.
Although range limits will need added in a revision. How the heck did I miss that... And where are you getting 28th level casting from, you need four Swarm HD for each pick off the Motes of Power list. And the Will save is a -1 per HD past the lower limit, so you'd need a base Will save bonus from hit dice alone of +10 to get the upper limit of 18 Swarm HD at three levels of Hive Master. Now, at ECL 20 PRC stacking can possibly be used to acquire a +17 base bonus(not actually clear on the rules, but it's meant to be non-trivial, possibly impossible pre-Epic), but +10 at ECL 13? How do you get that from base Will save?
I put in limiting clauses that make it a colossal pain in the ass to actually come out considerably ahead in progressions.
...Seriously, did you actually bother reading it? Because you seem to have missed every limiting clause and utterly ignored the explanation for a class feature's existence. The only complaint you have that's actually valid, given the design idea of not having a normal casting progression I stated multiple times, is the range limit. Or rather the lack of one.
You appear to have massively, absurdly failed reading comprehension and not seen the conversation about it. The absolute maximum progression of casting is 1.5 per level, no matter how hard you optimize your Will save, which is behind Ur Priest. Tell me what the sweet hell you saw in it to make you believe you can get 15 more levels of casting than the literal hard limit.
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2017-11-30, 06:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I
I did misread it as 1 per hit die, rather than per 4, as I was trying to review 14 classes (with varying numbers of terrible class features that should never have been typed) in a reasonable time. The class "Only" allows you to be one level ahead of a standard cleric at third level and two ahead at fourth and fifth levels.
However, I'm confused by the idea that it's hard to get a +10 base will save bonus on a cleric 10/hive master 3, who has, by default... a +10 base will save bonus. Maybe you didn't get that you, and I quote, "Add the base save bonuses for each class together", and yes that includes the +2. Maybe you always play with the fractional base attack and saves alternate rule, where you don't generally count the +2 each time. Whatever the reason, it's trivial to get the +10 will save bonus, to the effect that you can do it accidentally easily enough.Last edited by Jormengand; 2017-11-30 at 06:05 AM.
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2017-11-30, 08:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I
Cleric?/church inquisitor 1 or 2/a bunch of other dips in prcs/Hive Master.
Congratulation you can probably have 14 to your will save by the time you get hive master.
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2017-11-30, 10:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I
Yeah, for all the fact that my early comments on other entries included spelling and grammar issues, my own entry has an embarrassingly large number of them. After the contest I'll put up an updated one; if you see any spelling or other issues please let me know since I may not have found all of them.
As for the number of atomos points, I'm not sure. Earlier drafts had too few, but this may be too many. I'll need to think about it more. If you have more specific thoughts about that, I'll be happy to hear them.My homebrew:
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Completed:
ToB disciplines:
The Narrow Bridge
The Broken Blade
Prestige classess:
Disciple of Karsus -PrC for Karsites.
The Seekers of Lost Swords and the Preserver of Future Blades Two interelated Tome of Battle Prcs,
Master of the Hidden Seal - Binder/Divine hybrid
Knight of the Grave- Necromancy using Gish
Worthwhile links:
Age of Warriors
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2017-11-30, 12:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I
...No, it doesn't let you get actually ahead on casting, because there's a clause specifically preventing any parameter's effective level exceeding your character level(although this does mean LA can be compensated for fairly easily). This applies to everything on the Motes of Power list.
And if you have exactly a +10 from 10 levels of strong Will save, followed by 3 levels of Hive Master... You're burning up your entire stock of Will save and are knocked out for 1d4 hours if you take any level drain at all, whether it's permanent or not. Assuming you took a one-level dip of Druid(or of Cleric as a 9th level Druid), you have a wiggle room of one point of Will save. You can get +12 on the base save if you go for 8 levels in one and two in the other, whichever way you feel like splitting it, but that cuts a spell level from Cleric's base. If you pull a multiclass soup, PRC stacking or base mixing, it gets pretty easy to get the +17 by level 20.
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2017-12-01, 10:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I
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*Not the right word but I'm too tired to think about what it should be.
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2017-12-02, 07:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I
Thanks!!!
No, you aren't missing anything per say... The only official stats for sparrows I can find are in Oriental Adventures, where they're listed as Fine... Since there isn't a size category smaller than that, they cannot be ridden...
However, some species of True Sparrows (family Passeridae) can be as large as 7 inches which would qualify as diminutive if someone wanted to homebrew multiple species of sparrows... American Sparrows (subgroup within family Emberizidae) include species up to 9 inches, quite comfortably diminutive if someone wanted to create staats for them... Either way, a character with nine levels of Sparrow Rider and of a normally small race could ride a diminutive sparrow.
Alternatively, Fine could be split into more categories:3-6 inches and either 0-3 in or (1.5-3 in and 0-1.5 in). Sparrows would then be in the 3-6 in category and Ride Small would allow a character who was normally tiny to ride them.
As for the 9 levels... honestly, I'm not sure why I originally chose 9... But I do like 9. It's a nice square number. Largest single digit number in base 10 (If you care about base 10... Yuck...). An even 3/4 of the way through the best base. ...Yeah, I think I'm going with, "Because 9 is an awesome number"
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2017-12-02, 08:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I
Well, "Sparrow Rider" sounds a lot more thematicly appropriate than say Hawk Rider, since everyone knows sparrows are itty bit.
9 is also good because it is the largest power of 3 which is one more than a power of 2 (proven by Gersonides about 700 years ago), and 9 the only perfect square that is one more than a positive perfect cube (proven by Fermat I think). Actually both of those are implied by the much stronger statement of Catalan's Conjecture, which states that 8 and 9 are the only perfect powers which are consecutive. This was an open problem until very recently when it was proven by Mihalesco (early 2000s). So yeah, 9 is a pretty cool number.
From a more D&D 3.5/PF relevant standpoint, I think there's a real unfortunate tendency to force PrCs into 5 or 10 levels. If one has some other number of class levels, then making it around that many levels is often better. To use a different example, in my Atomos Mage PrC it ended up as 8 levels, not because any numerology related to 8 but because I had about 8 levels worth of class features, and because there would be balance issues with some of the class features which scaled based on class level if they went up to 10.My homebrew:
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Completed:
ToB disciplines:
The Narrow Bridge
The Broken Blade
Prestige classess:
Disciple of Karsus -PrC for Karsites.
The Seekers of Lost Swords and the Preserver of Future Blades Two interelated Tome of Battle Prcs,
Master of the Hidden Seal - Binder/Divine hybrid
Knight of the Grave- Necromancy using Gish
Worthwhile links:
Age of Warriors
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2017-12-04, 01:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I
whats next on the contest list? I heard someone sugest "Creepy Crawlies" which im game for as ive got half an idea brewing for it already.
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2017-12-04, 07:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I
Homebrew: If it is mine feel free to PEACH and/or use it.
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Well, it seems that life has deposited me here, yet again. Hopefully this time I get to stay a while, as I intend on revising some old homebrew.
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2017-12-04, 08:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I
my vote is for Switch hitters.
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2017-12-04, 10:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I
My vote is for Best of My Race (Paragons) or Creepy Crawlies
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2017-12-04, 10:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I
Maybe something went wrong with tallying votes? I can't see my master of needles getting all that votes.
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SpoilerGitP Pathfinder Grab Bag Competition Competition XXVI: Pick a God and Pray - Most Unique Entry
GitP Pathfinder Grab Bag Competition Competition XXVII - I, Construct - 2nd Place, Most Unique Entry & Most Likely To See Play
3.X Ancillary Contest I - The Darkness Consumes - 1st place and Best Use of Theme
3.X Ancillary Contest II - Follow the Arrow - 1st place, Most Likely to See Play and Best Use of Theme
Base Class Contest XXIX - Games. Games Everywhere - 3rd Place
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2017-12-04, 10:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I
Homebrew: If it is mine feel free to PEACH and/or use it.
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Well, it seems that life has deposited me here, yet again. Hopefully this time I get to stay a while, as I intend on revising some old homebrew.
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2017-12-04, 11:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I
Homebrew: If it is mine feel free to PEACH and/or use it.
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Well, it seems that life has deposited me here, yet again. Hopefully this time I get to stay a while, as I intend on revising some old homebrew.
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2017-12-04, 11:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I
Noice.Steam: Papa Palpy Palpatine
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Black(Blue and Green) or Sultai is my khanate, and my colour alignment.
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2017-12-04, 11:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by Ranged Ranger; 2017-12-04 at 12:00 PM.
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2017-12-04, 12:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I
Congratulations everybody! This was a nice one!!!
I hope to do better in the next contest!Last edited by MrNobody; 2017-12-04 at 12:30 PM.
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2017-12-04, 12:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I
Gratz to all! Now, to decide on the next theme...
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2017-12-04, 03:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I
I like the idea of paragons. Another thing that would be cool would be something related to the outer planes. I find planar travel prett fun
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2017-12-05, 09:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I
So, it seems these are the opinions for the next contest, which I hope to start by the 12th if that works for everyone's schedule.
- Creepy Crawlies-, Gawwy
- Best of my Race (Paragons)-Aniikinis, Baby Gary
- Switch hitters-Morphic tide, neriractor
- "salvation and Damnation" -Me
- "Planes"-Baby Gary
So it seems we have a tie between the first three . Well, Aniikinis I guess you have to make up your mind about which (CC or BoMR) you want to vote for as does Baby Gary on the matter of planes or paragons.Last edited by Westhart; 2017-12-05 at 09:35 AM.
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2017-12-05, 09:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I
I think I'm in the mood for some paragons
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2017-12-05, 09:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I
Homebrew: If it is mine feel free to PEACH and/or use it.
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Well, it seems that life has deposited me here, yet again. Hopefully this time I get to stay a while, as I intend on revising some old homebrew.