LGBTAitp #43 [Insert snappy subtitle here]

[Chess435]

Hello, all! This is the forty-third incarnation of the LGBTAitP thread! The thread is to support, celebrate and discuss anything that falls outside the bounds of what is hetero/cisnormative.

It is first of all a support thread, and then an education thread.

If you want answers about some of the more difficult and trigger inducing aspects of LGBTA, there are a number of people listed below who can answer questions - though no one should feel like they can't post their question more publicly because of this.

Please note that although the title of the thread names only the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, and Asexual communities, it is intended as an all inclusive environment. Everyone is welcome. L, G, B,T, A, Q, I, A, N, V, P, R, Q, Ω, ♅, all combinations of those letters and symbols, everyone. As long as they behave themselves.

If you have a question or two about LGBTA+ matters, you can ask it here! You can ask for advice and support in here. And you can just hang out with all of the lovely people, too, if you like.

In addition, many members are willing to give private advice one on one, either through email or PM. The best way to do this is asking for PM help in thread, or else to PM one of the following people (Please note that some of these people may not be available at all times.):

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Name: Especially familiar with the topic(s) of
KenderWizard: General/basics, gender and feminism, bisexuality
Musashi: General/basics, asexuality/demisexuality, depression
noparlpf: General/basics, asexuality, greysexuality, biology, Skype
Lea Plath: Genderfluidity
Lycunadari: Genderqueer and agendered
Eldest: General/basics, bisexuality, polyamory, pansexuality will Skype(voice if needed, no video)
HMS Sophia: Trans stuff (esp hormones)
Lix Lorn: General/basics
Tanail: Trans stuff (esp emotional issues), Skype(no voice or video, however)
Absol197: Gender identity issues
Warkitty: Academic/technical discussions
Lentrax: General/basics, depression, bullying
Wormwood74: Transgender legal issues, transgender outside contacts
Astrella: GSRM rights, feminism, trans stuff, Skype
Asteron Questar: Relationships, depression
Mystic Muse: Skype-y goodness.
Socratov: Skype-ness
Chess435: Skype
Irish Musician: PM, Rants/Venting
Metditto: PM/Skype for L, T, GQ, BDSM(Off-thread or Spoiler Triggered), demisexual, feminism, therapy, depression, dissociative identities
inuyasha: Shoulder on which to cry, someone to listen
Partysan: PM/Skype, polyamory, pansexuality, BDSM(Off-thread or Spoiler Triggered), Rants/Venting
TaiLiu: General Transgender information, transphobia.

Some people are also willing to talk off-board, through Skype or email or other means; this is especially useful if your question involves board-forbidden topics such as religion or politics. Also, we can't (and ethically shouldn't!) give medical advice. If you need medical advice, please see a professional!

Here are the rules of this thread!

• Everyone is welcome. Let's try to keep from seeming otherwise.
• Keep this topic free of politics and religion. (so, don't violate the board rules, please.)
• It's beyond the scope of this thread to discuss whether LGBT is "Right." (And really, most discussions probably should avoid moralizing too much anyway)
• Please refrain from posting sexually explicit content. (Keep it friendly as well as board safe )
• If you know something's a trigger for someone, please put it in a spoiler with a relevant tag in front of it.

Here are the links for the previous threads, where much of use or interest may be found:

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1. LGBT people in the playground
   
2. LGBT people in the playground - part II
   
3. LGBTitp - part III
   
4. LGBTitp 4: We are a family?
   
5. LGBTitp - Part Five
   
6. LGBTitp - Part Six
   
7. LGBTitp - Part Seven
   
8. LGBTitp - Part Eight
   
9. LGBTitp - Part Nine
   
10. LGBTAitp - Part Ten
    
11. LGBTAitp - Part Eleven
    
12. LGBTAitp - Part Twelve
    
13. LGBTAitp - Part Thirteen
    
14. LGBTAitp - Part Fourteen
    
15. LGBTAitp - Part Fifteen
    
16. LGBTAitp - Part Sixteen
    
17. LGBTAitp - Part Seventeen
    
18. LGBTAitp - Part Eighteen!
    
19. LGBTAitp - Part Nineteen
    
20. LGBTAitp - Part Twenty - Critical Hit!
    
21. LGBTAitp - Part Twenty-One - BLACKJACK!
    
22. LGBTAitP Part 22: The Best There Is
    
23. LGBTAitP Part 23: Et tu, ~Bianca?
    
24. LGBTAitP: Alphabet Soup-with 24 different Vitamins!
    
25. LGBTAitP part 25: Doing Away With Subtitles
    
26. LGBTAitP 26: No Time For Snappy Titles
    
27. LGBTAitP 27: Of Shoes, and Ships, and Sealing Wax
    
28. LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
    
29. LGBTAitP #29: The Rainbow Outreach Program
    
30. LGBTAitP 30: Free Cuddles (Enquire Within)
    
31. LGBTAitP #31: Cuddles Are On Back Order. Have Some Snuggles!
    
32. LGBTAitp #32: The Great Plushie Invasion!
    
33. LGBTAitp #33: The Thread at the End of the Rainbow!
    
34. LGTAitP #34: <3!!
    
35. LGBTAitp #35: What Midlife Crisis? :3
    
36. LGBTAitp #36: May Contain Bites!
    
37. LGBTAitP #37: Once upon a time...
    
38. LGBTAitP #38: Once More With Feeling!!
    
39. LGBTAitP #38: Making Your Way in the World Today....
    
40. LGBTAitP #40: Technicolour Partyboat
    
41. LGBTAitp #41 - Imprecise Terminology Supercenter
    
42. LGBTAitp #42: Better Than Skittles/The Meaning of Life!
    

And, for reference, here is a list of commonly used words and definitions by our community. Please understand that this list is currently undergoing construction right now. Any contributions to the list are appreciated.

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Lagerbeta: A fine brewski to be drunk by queers and allies.
LGBT: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans*
Trans*: Transsexual and Transgender
LGBTA: LGBT+Asexual/Allies
QUILTBAG:
Q - Queer and Questioning
U - Unidentified
I - Intersex
L - Lesbian
T - Transgender, Transexual
B - Bisexual
A - Asexual
G - Gay, Genderqueer

Allies: Hetereosexual-Cisgender people who support equality for sexual, gender, and romantic minorities.
Male-to-Female (MtF): Someone who was assigned male at birth, but is female. (AKA: trans woman)
Female-to-Male (FtM): Someone who was assigned female at birth, but is male. (AKA: trans man)
Genderqueer (GQ): Someone who is not of a binary gender; someone who is not male or female.
Cisgender (CG): Somebody whose gender and sex align.
Transgender/Transsexual: Two words commonly used in reference to a person whose sex(body) and gender(mind) are at odds or do not match. Transsexual can also be used to refer specifically to someone who desires to change their physical traits to align with their gender.
HRT: Hormone replacement therapy. MtF's take more progestrogens and oestrogens and FtM's take more testosterone (I think?)
SRS: Sex Reassignment Surgery: Surgery to replace/transform a vagina into a penis, or vice versa depending on direction. Mastectomies or plastic surgery may be used on breasts.
FFS: Facial Feminization Surgery: Surgery to reduce chin/nose/cheekbones. Uncommon.
AFAB/AMAB: Assigned Female/Male at Birth
FAAB/MAAB: Female/Male Assigned at Birth.

Man: A cisman or transman. Male.
Woman: A ciswoman or transwoman. Female.
Androgyne: Gender Identity with male and female aspects.
Genderfluid: Someone who fluctuates between different genders.
Agendered: Someone who lacks a gender.
Third-gendered: Someone who fits in a local society's third gender, usually male performing female tasks, occasionally vice versa.
Masculine: Something generally associated with men.
Feminine: Something generally associated with women.

Lesbian: A woman who is attracted to women.
Gay: A man who is attracted to men.
Homosexual: A person who is attracted to members of their gender.
Heterosexual: A person who is attracted to members of the opposite gender.
Androsexual: A person who is attracted to men.
Gynosexual: A person who is attracted to women.
Bisexual: Complicated, but to use noparlpf definition: 1. attracted to two genders; 2. attracted to one's own gender and another gender; 3. attracted to various genders; 4. attracted to people regardless of gender; 5. ask the person who says they're bi what exactly they mean by that.
Pansexual: A person who is attracted to people regardless of gender.
Asexual: A person who does not feel any/some sexual attraction.
Demisexual: A person who is sexually attracted to someone(s) they have formed an intense emotional relationship with.
Polyamorous: A person who is interested in a relationship with more than one person.

Sexual Orientation: How one identifies who they are attracted to.
Gender Identity: How one feels inside society's idea of "man, woman, or other". (GI)
Gender Expression: How one expresses their GI to society. (GE)
Significant Other(s): Person you are in a relationship with. (SO)

Webcomics that touch on... Well, everything related to the thread.

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Venus Envy. Long dead webcomic. The creator has chosen not to continue it and move forward in life.
Rain. A story of a MtF girl in high school.
Khaos Komix.As the creator puts it(from his site): "A complete GLBTWTFBBQ comic about gender and sexuality. (Trigger warnings for EVERYTHING and nothing is safe for work.)"
Always Raining Here. "Adrian is heartsick, Carter is horny. This is a story about their misadventures as awkward teenagers as they fumble through unrequited romances."
Tripping over you.An awkward blind date leads to better options.
Questionable Content. The LGBTA characters are well done, and not stereotypes.
What's normal anyway. An FtM webcomic. Seems decent so far.
Princess. A webcomic.
Twokinds. Keveak: "It generally portrays GRSM matters positively and is quite a nice tale overall."
Misfile The Rose Dragon: "Ash is a young boy who, as a result of a screw-up in Heaven, gets stuck in a girl's body in a life he doesn't recognize, and has to deal with the changes and challenges of his new body while trying to get back his old life. Supernatural hijinks and car racing are involved."
I know I missed a few webcomics, and if anyone finds more, feel free to PM them to me with a brief description, and I will add them.

The Brand New LGBTA Arts & Crafts Thread!

[Sabeki]

New thread!!!

[Heliomance]

As there keep being discussions about how much alphabet soup we should allow into the title, why not just put a + on the end?

[Miriel]

I think I'll try on my new girly clothes today in semi-public.

By which I mean that I could go to that LGBT* group and bring them.

[Kneenibble]

Budgie hugs for the new thread!

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Bwa ha ha ha, just joking! Overly familiar budgie kisses!

I have little to contribute except to say that my relationship is going very well and that my last stitch finally came out last night.

[Irish Musician]

.045 methuselahs.

Do what now?

Happy New Thread

~Matthew~

[Jormengand]

I nominate Jor/Anna/404/Antony to make the new thread, since it was their birthday!

Dammit Chessy, you ruined my fun.

Nah, to your credit I wasn't here. Anyway, new thread! Woo!

Also, I feel like I need a general name to reference me as a whole, rather than as a sum of my parts. Ehh, I'll think of one.

~Antony~

[Astrella]

I think I'll try on my new girly clothes today in semi-public.

By which I mean that I could go to that LGBT* group and bring them.

Hope it goes well.

[Jaycemonde]

I know. And I prefer my hooves cloven and sharp, mesel'.

I have cloven hooves!

Translation: Yes, that is how he feels.

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At the risk of straw-manning, yeah. That's exactly how it comes off. Sure, it may sound like an in-joke to people who aren't L, G (I think L and G should be stuck together under H personally, but whatev), B (which includes P), T (which is a really wide umbrella) or A, but you have to remember an important detail--this thread is made for L, G, B, T and A people, as well as anybody else who isn't included under those already broad terms but has to deal with bull**** on a daily basis just for existing. I'm not trying to be exclusive or anything, far from it, but try to remember who the 'primary audience' is, here.

I dress like this a lot; I really miss my camo cargo pants, but they've a hole in them and I haven't yet found replacements (everywhere has summer stock out already, it's a pain). I usually wear 'women's cut'/'babydoll cut' t-shirts (well, it's how ThinkGeek describes them), almost always geek or NaNoWriMo related.

I do, however, have two fairly large signifiers of femininity attached to my front, so I don't come across as gender-neutral.

Just go to an Army Surplus store. ****'s expensive for pants (although not as bad as those 'designer' pants) but it's worth it. As for 'babydoll' and womens' cut shirts...everyone just gets mad at me and yells at me to get rid of them, so. Yeah.

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ION, hooray for new thread! That subtitle should be a good compromise for everybody involved.

[Heliomance]

Methuselah lived to 969, so 969*0.045 is... 43.605. I don't think you're right, SiuiS. I really don't think Mynxae is in his 40s.

[Astrella]

Oh, I got an address for laser from a friend of mine. It's really close by and it's at the university's dermatology department. Now I just need to work up courage to make an appointment. (I'm also not sure what name to make it under.)

Also my new shirts are so comfy, it's great. :D

[bluewind95]

Yay! New thread!

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I feel the inclusion of the A in the title is not worth the implied exclusion of everyone else that doesn't fit in. Either you accept that LGBT is all-inclusive beyond what the letters stand for, or you have to keep adding letters for everyone who wants it. I choose the former for simplicity (not being either L, G, B, T or A).

Personally, I think the A is totally fine. I mean, if L, G and B(pan-inclusive for simplicity) are in there, then A should be too, cos it's a completely valid sexuality. It's kind of jarring when we're excluded, cos in my experience, people do tend to dismiss our sexuality. I mean, if I go tell a random person I'm asexual, they tend to think that it's not a thing, that it's just a trauma*. So it's more than a little jarring to be excluded from sexuality minorities.

I know that in the past, the A was not there. I also know that when it was added, I felt MUCH more welcome and validated and it was great. It also came when I was having an especially hard time in life and it made me smile and feel so much better and I am really, really thankful for its inclusion.

EDIT: As for the subtitle, I disagree with it being friendly to newcomers. I am not even a newcomer, having been around since the first thread (even if not consistently), and the subtitles always feel more like an in-joke I'm not in on rather than something inviting.

And for me, it's been the other way around. I love the subtitles. They're amusing. I don't care if I don't really know where they came from. I like to see them and I like to wonder where they came from. I love seeing the titles in the Random Banter thread, too. They make the threads feel more... casual, I guess. And more unique. But that's just me.

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*Yeah, I was once in a car with a friend and his family and I dunno how the subject of sexuality came up, but his mom, who claims to be a sexologist and stuff (and I guess she knows her straight stuff), kept going on about how deviant gay people are, how it's completely the result of perversion due to overpopulation, and how all gays like little boys (and pass on the gay that way) and how all lesbians are rapists. And then she went on saying that asexuals don't exist. That anyone who claims to be an asexual is just lying and is simply traumatized because they have been raped and/or sexually harassed, because there's just no other way they'd CHOOSE such an unnatural sexuality. Needless to say, I was very quiet that trip and very upset after that.

[Akowrules]

Am I terrible for thinking "Freddie Mercury" in this picture? Cause seriously that's what I'm thinking. >.> (From me that's a compliment!) Nice belt <^_^>

Sorry I've been away all, dealing with a vicious infection at the moment <x,x> am taking antibiotics now and have felt awful.

That's a compliment to me. Thanks!

I second this.

We all want it, Mynxae. We ALL want it.

I'm now worried about the amount of people who want it.

If anyone else complimented me in the previous thread and I failed to include you in the quotes, I thank you as well. My French class is starting and I have to be quick with this post.

Also, YAY NEW THREAD!!!!!

[Jormengand]

I'm now worried about the amount of people who want it.

And still not quite sure what the "it" that they want is...

[Jaycemonde]

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*Yeah, I was once in a car with a friend and his family and I dunno how the subject of sexuality came up, but his mom, who claims to be a sexologist and stuff (and I guess she knows her straight stuff), kept going on about how deviant gay people are, how it's completely the result of perversion due to overpopulation, and how all gays like little boys (and pass on the gay that way) and how all lesbians are rapists. And then she went on saying that asexuals don't exist. That anyone who claims to be an asexual is just lying and is simply traumatized because they have been raped and/or sexually harassed, because there's just no other way they'd CHOOSE such an unnatural sexuality. Needless to say, I was very quiet that trip and very upset after that.

Wish I coulda been there. Preferably while the doors were unlocked and the car was going over a bridge. Preferably in Alaska or Canada. Preferably at speed.

[The Rose Dragon]

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At the risk of straw-manning, yeah. That's exactly how it comes off. Sure, it may sound like an in-joke to people who aren't L, G (I think L and G should be stuck together under H personally, but whatev), B (which includes P), T (which is a really wide umbrella) or A, but you have to remember an important detail--this thread is made for L, G, B, T and A people, as well as anybody else who isn't included under those already broad terms but has to deal with bull**** on a daily basis just for existing. I'm not trying to be exclusive or anything, far from it, but try to remember who the 'primary audience' is, here.

As someone who considers himself part of the "anybody else who isn't included", I don't really feel like I'm the primary audience in this thread. I feel like an outsider. Granted, the only person who gives me crap about it is me because I choose to be uncomfortable with myself to avoid crap from others, so maybe I deserve to be an outsider.

[Kneenibble]

And still not quite sure what the "it" that they want is...

While propriety and probably law prevent me from remarking directly on the image in question, I believe that onlookers find their desire not dissimilar from the desire to bite into the rosy flesh of a watermelon ripened in the effulgence of the July sun.

*straightens tie and dabs brow* It's hot today

[Coidzor]

While propriety and probably law prevent me from remarking directly on the image in question, I believe that onlookers find their desire not dissimilar from the desire to bite into the rosy flesh of a watermelon ripened in the effulgence of the July sun.

*straightens tie and dabs brow* It's hot today

Watermelon, you say? *passes the salt*

Quite unseasonable for the autumn, yes. Ah well, at least there's an excuse to still be sitting on the porch, sipping sweet tea, watching the frolicking and foibles of youth, eh? *pours another glass from the pitcher*

I know. And I prefer my hooves cloven and sharp, mesel'.

That's what I thought you were doing, but really, you've seen how easy it is for something to be taken the wrong way.

Much more useful for smiting that way.

Indeed, let it never be forgotton, that I am an ass. *facepalm*

Object permanence is awesome. It makes for a great D&D setting; remove object permanence as a thing, and fill the world with fog. Only the perceived persists.

Fog, you say?

I dress like this a lot; I really miss my camo cargo pants, but they've a hole in them and I haven't yet found replacements (everywhere has summer stock out already, it's a pain). I usually wear 'women's cut'/'babydoll cut' t-shirts (well, it's how ThinkGeek describes them), almost always geek or NaNoWriMo related.

I do, however, have two fairly large signifiers of femininity attached to my front, so I don't come across as gender-neutral.

Um. Does that make me the old lady of the thread? I'm 30. I can't recall if anyone said they were older last time we did this.

NaNoWriMo, eh? Sweet.

It took me entirely too long to grok that.

I don't think so. Of people who are around regularly-ish-anymore, maybe?

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Huh. I suppose babies become people the same way cats become people; I look at them and they show some measure of activity. >_<

Babies are tiny wrinkled discolored potato beasts who excrete mucal fluids and bellow colored streaks of noise pollution like a dragon breathes fire, making messes and then rolling in them.

This of course also describes kittens, except kittens have more fur and stop rolling in poop slightly sooner (if you're lucky). So babies are kittens!

I suppose that makes a certain amount of sense, yeah.

That's probably the best description of babies I've heard in a while. XD

Your reasoning is impeccable as always. *slowly turns in his swivel chair, petting a baby* "And now, Mr. Bond, you will watch this fully operational dancing shaku robot steal the United Nations."

Heh. Swiss. SiuiS. Swiss SiuiS. I wonder what flavor of hot chocolate that would be?

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Whoops, sorry Coid; I was replying in a hurry else I would have spoilered my original reply.

I find it kinda hard to relate to babies, although I do love my niece and nephew to bits. To be honest sometimes I think my cats are more relatable than some humans. But then I'm biased.

Ah, no need to apologize. I flubbed that line anyway. Meant to say that I don't really have an issue where it's discussed, but I still think it's a tangent and probably a sillily large one. Tangents and Spoiler Tags go together like bread and butter in my mind. XD

Yeah, I mostly thought they were easily broken human-shaped monstrosities until I encountered some that I was related to, and even then with my cousins I mostly was just scared of breaking them because I was, like... a pre-pubescent or pubescent child. After I got over the fact that his parents should never have met, let along sprogged, I became quite fond of my nephew, though I still don't see him as a people yet, despite being around 7 months old now and having somehow earned the nickname Coalzor around these parts. I still sometimes just call him "the baby" or "it" though, which mostly serves to amuse me now.

[noparlpf]

Methuselah lived to 969, so 969*0.045 is... 43.605. I don't think you're right, SiuiS. I really don't think Mynxae is in his 40s.

Not sure how much I can analyse the equivalent value of a Methuselah in years without breaking thread rules. Is it okay to talk about mythology from upwards of four thousand years ago, or does that break the no religion rule?

Yay! New thread!

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Personally, I think the A is totally fine. I mean, if L, G and B(pan-inclusive for simplicity) are in there, then A should be too, cos it's a completely valid sexuality. It's kind of jarring when we're excluded, cos in my experience, people do tend to dismiss our sexuality. I mean, if I go tell a random person I'm asexual, they tend to think that it's not a thing, that it's just a trauma*. So it's more than a little jarring to be excluded from sexuality minorities.

I know that in the past, the A was not there. I also know that when it was added, I felt MUCH more welcome and validated and it was great. It also came when I was having an especially hard time in life and it made me smile and feel so much better and I am really, really thankful for its inclusion.

And for me, it's been the other way around. I love the subtitles. They're amusing. I don't care if I don't really know where they came from. I like to see them and I like to wonder where they came from. I love seeing the titles in the Random Banter thread, too. They make the threads feel more... casual, I guess. And more unique. But that's just me.

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*Yeah, I was once in a car with a friend and his family and I dunno how the subject of sexuality came up, but his mom, who claims to be a sexologist and stuff (and I guess she knows her straight stuff), kept going on about how deviant gay people are, how it's completely the result of perversion due to overpopulation, and how all gays like little boys (and pass on the gay that way) and how all lesbians are rapists. And then she went on saying that asexuals don't exist. That anyone who claims to be an asexual is just lying and is simply traumatized because they have been raped and/or sexually harassed, because there's just no other way they'd CHOOSE such an unnatural sexuality. Needless to say, I was very quiet that trip and very upset after that.

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Wow, that really sucks. I'm sorry. People can be crazy.

[Jormengand]

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*Yeah, I was once in a car with a friend and his family and I dunno how the subject of sexuality came up, but his mom, who claims to be a sexologist and stuff (and I guess she knows her straight stuff), kept going on about how deviant gay people are, how it's completely the result of perversion due to overpopulation, and how all gays like little boys (and pass on the gay that way) and how all lesbians are rapists. And then she went on saying that asexuals don't exist. That anyone who claims to be an asexual is just lying and is simply traumatized because they have been raped and/or sexually harassed, because there's just no other way they'd CHOOSE such an unnatural sexuality. Needless to say, I was very quiet that trip and very upset after that.

Stupid stupid stupid person. Ugh!!!! Sorry you had to put up with this person.

[Eirala]

Sabeki pic! :33 *dies from cuteness overload*


Also, fell for a prank exam at my new university because i'm still pretty much a mess, tired and stressed out (had an appointment with a surgeon before, to discuss surgery even if it's still way into the future. Was very nice though, not even once misgendered me. Nice people, and nice surgeon ). Which only made falling for it way worse. Which makes me even more of a mess. Stupid people who thought it would be funny (wouldn't have been funny either way)

[Irish Musician]

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*Yeah, I was once in a car with a friend and his family and I dunno how the subject of sexuality came up, but his mom, who claims to be a sexologist and stuff (and I guess she knows her straight stuff), kept going on about how deviant gay people are, how it's completely the result of perversion due to overpopulation, and how all gays like little boys (and pass on the gay that way) and how all lesbians are rapists. And then she went on saying that asexuals don't exist. That anyone who claims to be an asexual is just lying and is simply traumatized because they have been raped and/or sexually harassed, because there's just no other way they'd CHOOSE such an unnatural sexuality. Needless to say, I was very quiet that trip and very upset after that.

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I.......what.......how..........who...........That 's got to be one of the stupidest things I've ever heard quoted form someone's mouth

[Jormengand]

Sabeki pic! :33 *dies from cuteness overload*


Also, fell for a prank exam at my new university because i'm still pretty much a mess, tired and stressed out (had an appointment with a surgeon before, to discuss surgery even if it's still way into the future. Was very nice though, not even once misgendered me. Nice people, and nice surgeon ). Which only made falling for it way worse. Which makes me even more of a mess. Stupid people who thought it would be funny (wouldn't have been funny either way)

I wish I could actually hug you sometimes, Katharina. *Hugs.* Glad your appointment went well, at least.

Speaking of which, I have to talk to my entirely useless counselor tomorrow. Bleh.

[Eirala]

I wish I could actually hug you sometimes, Katharina. *Hugs.* Glad your appointment went well, at least.

Thanks Sometimes the thought counts

[Jormengand]

Thanks Sometimes the thought counts

And I think that you are a wonderful, pretty girl who deserves to be happy. Am I wrong?

[Eirala]

I certainly hope not

Thanks [insert currently appropiate name here], you really rescued my mood there ^_^
*kisses on cheek if allowed*

[Jormengand]

I certainly hope not

Thanks [insert currently appropiate name here], you really rescued my mood there ^_^
*kisses on cheek if allowed*

*Is kissed on cheek.* D'aww.

Currently a guy, but... eh. I still need a name/nickname for just me, generally. Maybe another reference to something, but not another status/error code.

[SiuiS]

Methuselah lived to 969, so 969*0.045 is... 43.605. I don't think you're right, SiuiS. I really don't think Mynxae is in his 40s.

Ah, no. I meant that was the unit of she to be considered "old", not that was Mynxae's age.

And I thought common understanding was "old guy who lived for a millennium"? I was angling for 45.

Your reasoning is impeccable as always. *slowly turns in his swivel chair, petting a baby* "And now, Mr. Bond, you will watch this fully operational dancing shaku robot steal the United Nations."

Thread won in 18 posts. New record?

Not sure how much I can analyse the equivalent value of a Methuselah in years without breaking thread rules. Is it okay to talk about mythology from upwards of four thousand years ago, or does that break the no religion rule?

It's as valuable as measuring shipping/romance via millilixies; ie what's to analyze? Sideways reference to roughly one thousand. Point-oh-four-five that is forty five years. Think too hard, you blink and miss it.

[Lauren]

As there keep being discussions about how much alphabet soup we should allow into the title, why not just put a + on the end?

When I was making the LGBTIAQ+ Wrimos FB group that's why I put the + ... and I've just realised I left out the P, which is pretty egregious considering I often ID as P in one way or another.

Just go to an Army Surplus store. ****'s expensive for pants (although not as bad as those 'designer' pants) but it's worth it. As for 'babydoll' and womens' cut shirts...everyone just gets mad at me and yells at me to get rid of them, so. Yeah.

OMFG, I can't believe I didn't think of that. I work just around the corner from one and was in there the other day buying a backpack and I still didn't think of it. Duh! Thanks for the mind-jog, I will go look today.

As someone who considers himself part of the "anybody else who isn't included", I don't really feel like I'm the primary audience in this thread. I feel like an outsider. Granted, the only person who gives me crap about it is me because I choose to be uncomfortable with myself to avoid crap from others, so maybe I deserve to be an outsider.

I don't think you deserve to be an outsider, but I also am not 100% sure how we can make the thread more inclusive for you in particular. Would a + in the thread title help? Another letter? I mean, I'm not the final arbiter of these things (although I do look forward to the day when I'm around at the right time to be a thread starter), but discussing what people need to feel included is the best way to make it happen.

NaNoWriMo, eh? Sweet.

It took me entirely too long to grok that.

I don't think so. Of people who are around regularly-ish-anymore, maybe?

Yes! My 11th NaNo, hopefully my 10th win, and 5th year MLing. I've started a thread in Arts and Crafts.

Heee. I am usually less subtle.

YAY I'M A REGULAR.

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I suppose that makes a certain amount of sense, yeah.

That's probably the best description of babies I've heard in a while. XD

Your reasoning is impeccable as always. *slowly turns in his swivel chair, petting a baby* "And now, Mr. Bond, you will watch this fully operational dancing shaku robot steal the United Nations."

Heh. Swiss. SiuiS. Swiss SiuiS. I wonder what flavor of hot chocolate that would be?

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Ah, no need to apologize. I flubbed that line anyway. Meant to say that I don't really have an issue where it's discussed, but I still think it's a tangent and probably a sillily large one. Tangents and Spoiler Tags go together like bread and butter in my mind. XD

Yeah, I mostly thought they were easily broken human-shaped monstrosities until I encountered some that I was related to, and even then with my cousins I mostly was just scared of breaking them because I was, like... a pre-pubescent or pubescent child. After I got over the fact that his parents should never have met, let along sprogged, I became quite fond of my nephew, though I still don't see him as a people yet, despite being around 7 months old now and having somehow earned the nickname Coalzor around these parts. I still sometimes just call him "the baby" or "it" though, which mostly serves to amuse me now.

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Given that I spend a lot of time (a loooot of time) over on Tangency on RPG.net, I can sometimes be bad at judging when a thread has drifted, 'cause it's kind of standard there.

I love the word 'sprogged'

[Akowrules]

@Sabeki

Oh my god, you're adorable!!!!! Also, I think we share the same kind of bunk bed, from what I saw in the photo.