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You're not skipping a turn, you are skipping a single mana the turn you play it. It is equivalent to a one mana mana rock that enters tapped and taps for C, except it requires a card less. The base for mana rocks is costing 2 mana, so costing half is a massive boon.
The depletion lands aren't particularly good and having colored mana makes them roughly comparable
the real sol lands are far better but require having a lot of good colorless or 1 mana color cards to be good.
In a set that doesn't have a high artifact or eldrazi focus it is going to be a decent but not OP land for limited and standard,
and it won't see play in Modern
Amulet of Vigor is also a card.
Set in a Ravnica set and it would be outright detrimental, fixing no mana at all.
It's not that the card definitely would be broken, but that it's a card that would be quite dangerous, and you seem to insist it would be no issue at all.
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2019-09-05, 01:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Depletion lands were from mercadian masques. They are identical except they die after being used twice, and they tap for colored mana. I used them as an example because as commons they see no play in pauper, even in decks that want free ramp.
Stompy decks in Legacy were pretty poor until quite recently. Dragonstompy only started putting up consistent results with the introduction of Goblin Rabblemaster, Hazoret and Good Chandra. Eldrazi stompy runs 4 sets of sol lands, but efforts to make shops work in legacy have been atrocious from the beginning.
Because what broke sol lands was pushed creatures, they were just okay until WotC decided creatures should be massive value engines. Goblin Rabblemaster should cost 1RR at least, the midrange Eldrazi shouldn't even exist. Another example of that is Magic 96, where Mishra's Workshop barely sees play because you are ramping into Suichi and Juggernaut.
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2019-09-05, 11:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Fair, I was looking at the ice age depletion lands.
I can see the comparison but:
1. Staying in play for more than two turns mean something.
2. They aren't modern legal and pauper is a bad place for this type of effect since all their best cards cost 1 or 2 mana, where they allow a lot more things in modern.
3. They did see play in storm decks before those got banned.
Stompy decks in Legacy were pretty poor until quite recently. Dragonstompy only started putting up consistent results with the introduction of Goblin Rabblemaster, Hazoret and Good Chandra. Eldrazi stompy runs 4 sets of sol lands, but efforts to make shops work in legacy have been atrocious from the beginning.
Because what broke sol lands was pushed creatures, they were just okay until WotC decided creatures should be massive value engines. Goblin Rabblemaster should cost 1RR at least, the midrange Eldrazi shouldn't even exist. Another example of that is Magic 96, where Mishra's Workshop barely sees play because you are ramping into Suichi and Juggernaut.
That is like saying Reanimate is a balanced card because creatures are supposed to be Serra Angel.
It's like the deal with Birthing Pod, you can either keep banning the new tools that come out, or you can acknowledge that the engine is a problem and axe that. Rabblemaster is not the problem, Ancient Tomb is.
Midrange eldrazi aren't even a problem in modern anymore after they went down to 4 sol lands, so clearly the land was the problem.
Workshop has been the best deck in vintage since Trinisphere broke tournaments and subsequently got banned back in 2005.
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I think it is obvious we fundamentally look at the game differently. You are using Emrakul, Griselbrand and storm to argue that their enablers are the problem, and not two cards that got banned in EDH and a mechanic that ate three bans in modern to keep safe.
So I'm going to just agree to disagree here.
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2019-09-05, 05:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Griselbrand and Emrakul were not problems in their standard environments. Yes the cards themselves are busted, but so are their enablers.
storm to argue that their enablers are the problem,
and not two cards that got banned in EDH
You are also completely ignoring the glaring point that both the payoff and the enabler are troublesome, and that is why it is that abusive.
Let's not pretend Omnishow decks don't exist.
It's also like saying Workshop isn't broken because Trinisphere/Chalice/Thorn of Amatyst/Lodestone Golem were the cards that got banned. Clearly it's not the enabler that is the problem even though it is only Chalice that sees play in modern where all the cards are legal.
And let's not get into the argument that power 9, the most powerful cards in all of magic, are almost exclusively enablers.Last edited by Ninjaman; 2019-09-05 at 05:15 PM.
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After exiling everything from the stack, you end the current step/phase and skip everything up to the next clean up step and proceed as normal from there.
Thinking on it, I do think the spell should be red rather then Blue/Black. Red has extra turn effects and end turn effects, blue might be included but I don't see a black connection."Three blokes walk into a pub. One of them is a little bit stupid, and the whole scene unfolds with a tedious inevitability." - Bill Bailey
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No U (Cost 1 blue phyrexian mana)
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Change the target of target spell or ability an opponent controls that targets you to target them instead unless they pay (1 blue phyrexian mana).There is no emotion more useless in life than hate.
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I'd make this cantrip at the very least. Also, I'd say the spell feels a lot more red than blue in practice. Something along the lines off:
Emphatic Denial R (cost 1 red phyrexian mana)
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Deal 2 damage to the owner of target spell
draw a card
Would in practice play pretty much the same, but would be more in-color and might maybe be worth playing.Jasnah avatar by Zea Mays
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The spell says "redirect this unless the opponent pays 2 life or U" so I said negated in refernce to them "paying 2 life or U." The card isn't worded quite right, but I didn't feel like rewording his card because we were still talking about the content.
So my suggestion is basically "redirect target spell that targets you. Your opponent my pay 2 life or U. If they do put this on top of your library instead."
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I think the wording you want is something along the lines off "Change the target of target spell or ability an opponent controls that targets you to target them instead unless they pay (1 blue phyrexian mana). If they do, put this card on the top of your library." as 'negated' implies the spell was somehow prevented from doing its thing, but if your opponent just decides to pay, the spell has still achieved its effect.
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2019-09-09, 04:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Good point. I would make it "you may put it on top" or it could ruin you against blue decks.
Assuming that wording works, I think that shocking once a turn is a fair card. It isn't overpowered but also not worthless. It has one really strong interaction that I know of, which is to guarantee a 1 cmc on top if your library. So pretty good in counterbalance decks.Last edited by Tvtyrant; 2019-09-09 at 04:43 PM.
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Except it doesn't, because it requires that your opponent has a target every turn. Your opponent is not going to play a card that targets you every turn. What's even worse about the design is that many cards say target opponent, meaning this card won't be usable on half the cards you want to use it on.
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Spoiler: Really Over-the-top
It probably doesn't need the end-step abilities, now that I think about it.Last edited by enderlord99; 2019-09-12 at 02:41 AM.
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2019-09-12, 05:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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I get Monarch and City's Blessing are both kind of things you can have in the game, but I don't see how having at some point in the game having controlled a desert ties in to that.
Edit: stupid card I just thought up
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Acuphagia 1B
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Artifacts you control are Food in addition to their other types and gain "{2}, {T}, Sacrifice this permanent: You gain 3 life"
Was going to make it red at first but then realised shouldn't really be giving red life gain.Last edited by Androgeus; 2019-09-12 at 05:38 AM.
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