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2024-03-22, 04:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1300 - The Discussion Thread
I feel confident they will. They have every reason to help Sunny (they're Lawful Good, they're paladins, they're reasonable people, they've got nothing else to do, they're stuck without her help, she's their ally, she's a child, O-Chul gets along with at least one other monster) and no compelling reason not to.
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2024-03-22, 04:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1300 - The Discussion Thread
VC XV, The horsemen are drawing nearer: The Alien and the Omen (part 1 and part 2).
VC XVI, Burn baby burn:Nero
VC XVIII, This is Heresy! Torquemada
VC XX, Elder Evil: Henry Bowyer
And a repository of deliciously absurd sentences produced by maddened optimisers in my extended signature
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2024-03-22, 06:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1300 - The Discussion Thread
Fighters?! Calder can manipulate thermodynamic differentials with his fingers, like a normal person, thank you very much!
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2024-03-22, 06:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1300 - The Discussion Thread
Hello what if what if Calder thinks he can remove the polymorph from Bloodfeast The Extreme-inator and dominate its mind and then what happens
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2024-03-22, 08:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1300 - The Discussion Thread
Hmm, we did not see if Sunny was a good outfielder during the baseball scene with Elan.
Being out of the AMF, her wands ought to work now. Like Merry and Pippin going after the Uruk Hai at the end of Fellowship of the Ring movie? That wasn't very effective.
While that's a nice descriptive of the two, not seeing halfling offensive as being even close to the impact of the paladins arriving on Sunny-back.
A timely quote, given that Mike Tyson is IRL training for a fight even as we speak. Yes, he is.
And in Lien's case, have a cigarette afterwards.
I don't doubt them.
In strip 0008, healing potion stolen form Belkar and fed to Elan was green.
Baseball and basketball, Sunny is a two-sport letterman.Last edited by KorvinStarmast; 2024-03-22 at 08:12 AM.
Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
b. greenstone (paraphrased):
Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
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2024-03-22, 08:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1300 - The Discussion Thread
Then Bloodfeast's loyalty to Belkar will be tested.
If Calder orders BF to do something he would normally do, BF will probably do it. If ordered to do something he would normally not do, there are opportunities for BF to make Saving Throws to resist the order or to break the enchantment. Those saves will likely favor Calder for a lot of reasons, mostly having to do with a high level caster vs an attack-trained mount. If Belkar contests Calder for control, Belkar has some serious advantages, beginning with his friendship, Wild Empathy Ranger ability, and his ranks in Animal Handling. And if BF is Belkar's Animal Companion, it gets even better.
So, without actual data, it is hard to calculate. Calder might control the Exterminator, or that plan might just bite him in the... tail.
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2024-03-22, 08:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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2024-03-22, 08:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Yes...it will be a spectacle, but a fight in the sense of his fights with Holyfield ... not so much.
Then again, his fight with Carl "The Truth" Williams lasted less than two minutes, as I recall.Spoiler: vivid memoryI remember watching it as it began (a friend had the fight on, we had a fight party) and all I could say was "Carl, get your left hand up, don't drop your guard" a few times before Tyson's blow landed ... and ended it.Last edited by KorvinStarmast; 2024-03-22 at 08:15 AM.
Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
b. greenstone (paraphrased):
Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
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2024-03-22, 08:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1300 - The Discussion Thread
Tactically it wouldn't make much sense. He would need to dispell the Polymorph first, thus withstand attacks from Bloodfeast for one round, then dominate him. Otherwise Calder would risk dispelling his own spell. The dinosaur is currently inoffensive, so it would be smarter to focus on existing threats, which means Serini and the PCs. Calder might try removing their protections or, if he has overheard Elan discussing Halley's bluff, dominating them directly instead.
Come to think of it, we haven't seen Mimi in the last few seconds. Could she be trying to glue Calder to the floor? The resistance of her glue has been discussed before after all...On a fateful evening, I foolishly sworn myself to follow Xykon's updated speech rule ...thing. The twelve gods know that I regretted my decision ...since then ...multiple times.
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2024-03-22, 08:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1300 - The Discussion Thread
In the last 2 strips, the dragon has been on the ground, on his back, tilting his head to look toward the right of the panels. In the previous ones, he was upward and mostly pointed toward the left.
Maybe that change of overall position of the dragon created some confusion between 1298 and 1299, and it has been repeated since he's been mostly static in the last 2 strips?Last edited by Kardwill; 2024-03-22 at 08:56 AM.
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2024-03-22, 09:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1300 - The Discussion Thread
Doing so is a bad idea, since it will end with Calder's teeth broken (panel 3).
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2024-03-22, 09:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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2024-03-22, 09:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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2024-03-22, 11:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1300 - The Discussion Thread
Heh.
"Thump" works perfectly well as a joke in context: the effect works, or not, depending on whether the target could be thumped by an arrow.
I know an old dragon who swallowed a V...
Bloodfeast will be simultaneously alive and dead until being observed by opening the dragon.
"Didn't you... didn't you used to have that on the other side?"
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2024-03-22, 11:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1300 - The Discussion Thread
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2024-03-22, 12:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1300 - The Discussion Thread
Warhammer 40,000 Campaign Skirmish Game: Warpstrike
My Spelljammer stuff (including an orbit tracker), 2E AD&D spreadsheet, and Vault of the Drow maps are available in my Dropbox. Feel free to use or not use it as you see fit!
Thri-Kreen Ranger/Psionicist by me, based off of Rich's A Monster for Every Season
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2024-03-22, 12:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1300 - The Discussion Thread
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Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
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2024-03-22, 12:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1300 - The Discussion Thread
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2024-03-22, 12:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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2024-03-22, 12:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1300 - The Discussion Thread
Yeah. I suspect that the iimages of Calder on his back are flipped horizontally, which is what's causing the flipping of the horns.
I've learned to double check links as well. I've run into a couple occasions where someone has quoted something from a classic source, and I've responded talking about it, only to discover they were referencing something newer, which itself was referencing/homaging the original. Sometimes, the quotee isn't aware of this. Which is... awkward.
And.... Now I realize that I haven't clicked the link. We are talking about Young Frankenstein, right?
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2024-03-22, 12:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1300 - The Discussion Thread
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2024-03-22, 12:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1300 - The Discussion Thread
Calder's hurt BF, sure, but only to the point of normal battle damage so far. If it ended there I'd give Belkar a 30% chance of writing the scar off as a badass marker and asking if the clerics can heal the HP while preserving it.
Eating or seriously injuring him is a different matter entirely.
I do agree with your assessment of Belkar's retributive capacity in this case though."Thursdays. I could never get the hang of Thursdays."-Arthur Dent, The Hitchhiker's Guide
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2024-03-22, 12:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1300 - The Discussion Thread
Professional, albeit old, boxer vs whatever Jake Paul is. Tyson 'should' be devastating. One/two combinations against someone not similarly trained, and this fight would be over. As it would if, e.g., Floyd Meriwether or Oscar De La Hoya were Paul's opponent. But that wouldn't be entertaining.
Even older professional athletes in person often seem otherworldly with just how fast they can move and how strong and precise they are.
All I was doing with the quote was agreeing that Calder probably vowed to never submit again, but pain (like the pain of having a dinosaur grab your windpipe) has a way of changing minds.
He needs to live for a bit, anyway, as I'm sure he has a few bon mots to reveal about Serini, the Scribble, the Gates, and the Snarl. Who knows what he learned from those he mind-controlled? Maybe we can learn a bit more about V, V's omnicide, and how that is or isn't working out?
Can't wait.
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2024-03-22, 12:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1300 - The Discussion Thread
No, no, no. He has a twin sister with the horn broken on the other side (represented in the drawings) who will then show up after the Order defeats Calder. (And spends all their consumables and spells in the process.)
There's a modded fight with multiple dragons on the Baldur's Gate series that plays out that way, much later on. *Very* surprising at the time. Great fun. (Lol)
But seriously, I think it's an art issue.
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2024-03-22, 01:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1300 - The Discussion Thread
A yet-unsaid possibility is that the next strip could involve Calder give Belkar a deal.
Turn against your allies or I eat the lizard. This offer stands for the next six seconds.Last edited by Resileaf; 2024-03-22 at 01:26 PM.
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2024-03-22, 01:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1300 - The Discussion Thread
Eh, he's legitimately trained. Doesn't mean he has talent or ability, but he seems to continuously improve. Doesn't mean I don't wanna see Iron Mike make him his...
Nah, Belkar would just carve it back out of him...or do the Agent K thing. "I really like this [lizard]".
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2024-03-22, 02:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1300 - The Discussion Thread
I just ran across an old Heinlein quotation that seems apropos:
Originally Posted by Robert Heinlein
I couldn't find a better clip, unfortunately. From the shakiness and the giggle near the end, I get the impression that it came from someone videorecording a viewing of the movie.
The domination doesn't give him telepathic access to the memories and thoughts of his subjects, does it? Though no doubt he'd be able to learn from his subjects by telling them to give him their information, to the extent that he bothered. (They're just minions; do they have anything to contribute to his plans beyond obeying his orders? Etc.)Last edited by bunsen_h; 2024-03-22 at 02:43 PM.
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2024-03-22, 03:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1300 - The Discussion Thread
Prediction ---Blood feast will die.
A little character development flashback will follow.
Belkar will sacrifice himself to kill Mr. Dragon.
Gets kicked over to the slightly less than chaotic evil afterlife.
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2024-03-22, 03:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Ten gold on "Belkar doesn't die in this fight".
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2024-03-22, 03:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1300 - The Discussion Thread
I'm almost willing to bet on the longshot - Belkar dying in this fight and being revived.
On a fateful evening, I foolishly sworn myself to follow Xykon's updated speech rule ...thing. The twelve gods know that I regretted my decision ...since then ...multiple times.