Mountain Time

[Metastachydium]

"So we have to go up a mountain to steal a time machine.
"Let's commence operation…"
[Beat.]
"We don't need to name the operation."

(And you don't need to worry about any of that. That's from after the Second Technorabbit Apocalypse. A-anyway,)

Metastachydium, the Happy Little Blue Flower of Whirling Death for Humans from a different continuity altogether proudly presents:

MOUNTAIN TIME
(, the Mafia game, not the time zone (now with actual mobsters))

So, what's this all about? It's quite simple. At the dawn of days and the beginning of time itself, a grave injustice was done (except it was about someone not getting a paddle ball, so arguably not so grave, and he was kind of a jerk even before that, so probably not an injustice either; but I digress) to a owerful entity old as the ages: the Devil 2 (not to be confused with the Devil; that one's a surprisingly chill dude). And he swore revenge.

Wielding terrible power, he unleashed plague after plague upon the world (incl. the Black Death, the Pink Death, the Translucent Death and Crystal Pepsi) through the actions of his agents (who we'll pretend aren't condors, because condors are BIRDIES and as such, too cute to be Evil). But then, he found his power checked as the ONIONS emerged to combat his forces through the power of weird masks and historically inaccurate ninja weaponry. A war began, and the Devil 2 lost.

But the Devil 2 proved a sore loser. Having had his minions defeated and scattered, he assembled a new, elite, secret order of Very Evil Wrongdoers to finish what he started: Operation Condor (which, as has been established, has nothing to do with condors, so stop asking). And once more, his work began… TO DESTROY THE WORLD! Which, seeing how Narwhal City is owned by Jeff Cola, Union is full of cannibals, Thraax is a wretched hive of dark cultists and Equatorial Antarctica's kind of otherwise occupied, mostly means… The City of New Lancaster. And someone better protect it!

Now,

1. What is this whole Mafia thing?

I can't be bothered to actually copy-paste the whole deal, and you'll mostly know anyway. If not, welcome, and go see for yourself.

2. Can you make this make sense?

Afraid not. Instead, have a comprehensive list of all availbale roles:

Spoiler: Mountain Time: The Roles!

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Spoiler: City of New Lancaster

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Lenny, the **** You Zebra
–Guess What?
–No One Expects Lenny, the **** You Zebra

The New Lancaster Nothing
–Both Dead
–And Two Birds

Surf Rat
–The Wave of Freedom

Bartending Unicorn
–One Part Windex
–Unicorn, Remember?

Subtraction Stoat
–Subtract the Hyphen
–Subtract the Sun

Self-Aware Dinosaur
–He's an Allosaurus
–And He Knows It

Paul
–An Island of Pauls

Winona, the Psychic Rat
–Opti-Free Eyedrops
–Death-Tainted Microwave Oven

The Freuds
–Something About Your Mother
–To Harvest Hydrogen

Agoraphobic Hamster
–EEEEEEEEP!
–I Make Juices

Dawn
–A Little in Common with Members of Congress
–Apabap

Spoiler: Operation Condor

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Thomas Jefferson
–Virginia Resolutions Shurikens
–T-Rex Skullcopter

The Pelican Cello
–Eye Lasers
–The Many Hats I Wear

Eddie the Squash and Pickle Jar Louie
–Allergy Test
–Shame If Something Happened to It

The New Lancaster Fencing Academy
–We Fence All Day
–And We Fence All Night

Spoiler: Everyone Else, I Guess?

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Nils and Olav
–For Týr
–Under the Mall

The Great One
–Let's Call It 10 Minutes
–Skeet Ulrich's Chiseled Cheekbones

Soup-of-the-Day Steve
–Soup of the Day

All roles are power roles, except Paul, but Paul is also a power role, so don't worry too much about that. The game might have multiple Pauls; everyone else is going to be a beautiful and uniques snowflake. And probably dead, after a while. I didn't bother to balance this ****. But don't worry too much about that either; the dead are going to stay in the game for longer than they might expect.

Oh, have some

Spoiler: Non-Role Mechanisms

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too, namely:

The Blade of Torthos: IT IS THE BALDE OF TORTHOS! WHOEVER WIELDS IT, IS IMMUNE TO DEATH IN BATTLE! It's also ****ing annoying and never stops talking. Its current wielder is immune to death, whatever its source, but carrying it for more than one phase is so traumatic that any that attempts to do so is unable to vote or use powers until such time as it is discarded or passed along to another player. If discarded, it will end up with a randomly determined player.

And:

The Submarine Solution: Wanna get out of the game and pass on to the afterlife? Imply that submarines are ships. Works every time.

On board, (mostly) alive and kicking, we have:
1. AvatarVecna!
2. Luizeu!
3. Illven!
4. Caedorus!
5. Book Wombat!
6. Snowblaze!
7. Batcathat!
8. Persolus!
9. Athedia!
10. Cazero!
11. JeenLeen!
12. Flat-footed!
, that is.

In other news,

Spoiler: CaoimhinTheCape

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CaoimhinTheCape has totally not died, and didn't really win either, but what he achieved was… Sufficient.

CaiomhinTheCape is Enough:
–That's Enough: You are the quasi-deific entity of being enough. Also, sufficiency. And the like. What you have, is already enough to land you in a comfortable place with an okay pay, so you're not going to play this silly game. Instead, you assume the nom-de-guerre Eno Hug to play the keyless keyboard as the bandleader of the popular TV talk show Squid Town Tonight.

Spoiler: Rogan

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Rogan is also very much alive, and in no real need of winning the game. Instead,

Rogan is Nachos Plesiosaur:
–What It Says on the Tin (and More!): You are the former mayor of New Lancaster. You are also a Plesiosaur sitting on nachos. This makes you very authenitc, but kind of bad at holding prestigious offices. Still, it gave you the exposure to be invited as a guest of the popular TV talk show Squid Town Tonight.

3. When do we start?

When I say we start. Which will be… Before Tuesday evening at the latest. PLEASE DON'T POST BEFORE THAT, BECAUSE I'LL BE SAD. AND STUFF.

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AND SO IT BEGINS!

This is DAY 1 of Mountain Time!
Beginning now!

It will last 48 hours (or something in that ballpark), barring complaints.

Please place votes in any shade of BOLD RED.

Please also place votes in any shade of anything else.

The latter won't do a damn thing, though.

[Cazero]

Farouche !
JeenLeen

[Athedia]

So I am petitioning we pronounce New Lancaster as Lan-kiss-ter as that is the proper way to pronounce it.

[Batcathat]

I'm a little tempted to vote for Rogan or Cao for funnsies, but let's go with Book Wombat.

So I am petitioning we pronounce New Lancaster as Lan-kiss-ter as that is the proper way to pronounce it.

Are you sure? That pronunciation seems way too close to the spelling for a British place name. It's probably something like Laxmpxpuhster.

[Athedia]

I'm a little tempted to vote for Rogan or Cao for funnsies, but let's go with Book Wombat.



Are you sure? That pronunciation seems way too close to the spelling for a British place name. It's probably something like Laxmpxpuhster.

No you see the trick is you have it super close. Then you get to glare at everyone in disappointment as they say it wrong but then don't tell them how to fix it.

[Snowblaze]

This game makes No Sense. I love it.

Uh...I have no idea who to vote for. If in doubt, kill AvatarVecna?

[Illven]

So it begins.

Vote to come when I am no longer on mobile.

[Caedorus]

Farouche !
JeenLeen

What's the easiest strat as wolf?

Why, just copy a townie!
Ftr joke vote
Jeenleen

[flat_footed]

It will last 48 hours (or something in that ballpark), barring complaints.

Yes, can we end the day now? No one has voted for me yet and I'd like to keep it that way.

[Athedia]

Yes, can we end the day now? No one has voted for me yet and I'd like to keep it that way.

flat_footed I don't want to make you left out

[flat_footed]

flat_footed I don't want to make you left out

And with that, Athedia, you've fallen into my trap.

[Book Wombat]

Well damn, Book Wombat. Why'd I have to be number five?

[Athedia]

And with that, Athedia, you've fallen into my trap.

Awwww you are including me too! I feel appreciated <3

[Caedorus]

Awwww you are including me too! I feel appreciated <3

Athedia don't worry we all like you!

[AvatarVecna]

Persolus!

Time to read the mech

[Athedia]

Athedia don't worry we all like you!

Awwwww but remember we need to love everyone!

[Luizeu]

I'll pull an AvatarVecna and vote for Luizeu

[Illven]

Currently, the RNG votes for the defense of Squirtles.

Clearly Caedorus is a secret scum.

[Snowblaze]

Athedia 2 : flat_footed, Caedorus
Book Wombat 2: Batcathat, Book Wombat
flat_footed 1: Athedia
JeenLeen 1: Cazero
Persolus 1: AvatarVecna
AvatarVecna 1: Snowblaze
Luizeu 1: Luizeu
Caedorus 1: Illven

...mmm, yeah, let's have some more people on two votes. Let's see... Luizeu is self-voting which doesn't really count, Jeen left last game early... so I'll arbitrary go with flat_footed from the remainder.

(Okay, not that arbitrary, I may have a slightly petty streak. Or, possibly, enjoy walking into traps I know are there...)

Athedia 2 : flat_footed, Caedorus
Book Wombat 2: Batcathat, Book Wombat
flat_footed 2: Athedia, Snowblaze
JeenLeen 1: Cazero
Persolus 1: AvatarVecna
Luizeu 1: Luizeu
Caedorus 1: Illven

[JeenLeen]

What's the easiest strat as wolf?

Why, just copy a townie!
Ftr joke vote
Jeenleen

Athedia don't worry we all like you!

Caedorus, can you explain actual suspicion on Athedia this early? It's pesumably not a joke vote since your joke vote was on me.

You 'joke vote' me putting me at two votes, then move to another person after she gets a vote and put her at two votes.
Feels like a wolf spreading seeds, for them to sprout into the fruit of "hey, was Caedorus distancing with Athedia/JeenLeen D1? Look how he voted them but moved off later. But he put them at 2 votes, a wolf wouldn't do that, would they? Or would they since it's early D1 so it's an easy way to do strong distancing".

Though the banter from Athedia makes me think maybe she is a scumbuddy with Caedorus, but that's probably me tunneling because I want to feel smart for finding wolves D1.

Time to read the mech

If you find some beyond the artifact of immunity and annoyance, or the self-destruct button, let me know

Though, on a serious note, I do have the powers listed with my Role, so I think the mech revealed in the Role Lists is probably legit.

Athedia 2 : flat_footed, Caedorus
Book Wombat 2: Batcathat, Book Wombat
flat_footed 1: Athedia
JeenLeen 1: Cazero
Persolus 1: AvatarVecna
AvatarVecna 1: Snowblaze
Luizeu 1: Luizeu
Caedorus 1: Illven

...mmm, yeah, let's have some more people on two votes. Let's see... Luizeu is self-voting which doesn't really count, Jeen left last game early... so I'll arbitrary go with flat_footed from the remainder.

(Okay, not that arbitrary, I may have a slightly petty streak. Or, possibly, enjoy walking into traps I know are there...)

Athedia 2 : flat_footed, Caedorus
Book Wombat 2: Batcathat, Book Wombat
flat_footed 2: Athedia, Snowblaze
JeenLeen 1: Cazero
Persolus 1: AvatarVecna
Luizeu 1: Luizeu
Caedorus 1: Illven

If Snow flips wolf, some suspicion to Athedia or Book Wombat as scumbuddies.
I know Snow would bus a buddy, so there's no reason for me to think she's sincere when I'm suspicious of Caedorus for something along similar lines... but I guess a gut feeling. Caedorus feels like sowing seeds to sprout into future suspicion. (Am I leaning more on plant metaphors and apparently alliteration during Metastachyium's game?) Snow feels like a towny doing a not-much D1 vote or a wolf trying to subtly protect a buddy.

I feel like if Snow is a wolf Athedia probably isn't, but I also don't trust that feeling.

[Athedia]

I will say my role has the powers listed under it. The names seem to be vague enough though to lead to uncertainty. (Names of the powers and roles both).

Also give me some credit, I knew voting for Flat would be a trap, I just thought it would be funnier to walk into it. First day is chaos anyway, why not embrace it?

[Snowblaze]

If Snow flips wolf, some suspicion to Athedia or Book Wombat as scumbuddies.
I know Snow would bus a buddy, so there's no reason for me to think she's sincere when I'm suspicious of Caedorus for something along similar lines... but I guess a gut feeling. Caedorus feels like sowing seeds to sprout into future suspicion. (Am I leaning more on plant metaphors and apparently alliteration during Metastachyium's game?) Snow feels like a towny doing a not-much D1 vote or a wolf trying to subtly protect a buddy.

I feel like if Snow is a wolf Athedia probably isn't, but I also don't trust that feeling.

The two bolded sentences say the exact opposite of each other. Explain?

[JeenLeen]

The two bolded sentences say the exact opposite of each other. Explain?

One (first one) is a deduction based on voting patterns, given the premise of wolf!Snow.
The other is gut feeling.

That is, if you flip wolf, I think you might be protecting one of those two as scumbuddies.
But for some reason, I feel like it's not likely the case for Athedia to be a wolf if you are. I don't really have an explanation why, but it's a feel and one I don't trust a lot.

I meant to state that, but I see how I didn't state it super clearly.

[AvatarVecna]

What's the easiest strat as wolf?

Why, just copy a townie!
Ftr joke vote
Jeenleen

Wolf team is JeenLeen Cazero Caedorus ez pz gg no re

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I'll pull an AvatarVecna and vote for Luizeu

hmmm towny

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Caedorus, can you explain actual suspicion on Athedia this early? It's pesumably not a joke vote since your joke vote was on me.

yes this in clear violation of the rules: maximum of one "joke vote" per player, very strictly enforced

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One (first one) is a deduction based on voting patterns, given the premise of wolf!Snow.
The other is gut feeling.

That is, if you flip wolf, I think you might be protecting one of those two as scumbuddies.
But for some reason, I feel like it's not likely the case for Athedia to be a wolf if you are. I don't really have an explanation why, but it's a feel and one I don't trust a lot.

I meant to state that, but I see how I didn't state it super clearly.

*ponders Jeen/Snow worlds*

[Illven]

The two bolded sentences say the exact opposite of each other. Explain?

I mean it seems perfectly clear and concise to me.

Data says if you're a wolf, one of those two is your scumbuddy.

Jeen's gut is saying that he feels if you're a wolf, Atheida is not.


Are you distracted irl snow?

[Athedia]

The return of the misspelled name! Goes over to convenient fainting chair and collapses dramatically

[Snowblaze]

I mean it seems perfectly clear and concise to me.

Data says if you're a wolf, one of those two is your scumbuddy.

Jeen's gut is saying that he feels if you're a wolf, Atheida is not.


Are you distracted irl snow?

Ish? Definitely not fully engaged yet.

Though also a) that possibility did occur to me after I saw the contradiction, I was at least half poking that to see what happened, and b) if I'm correct in thinking you're saying "that's a mistake I wouldn't expect a fully engaged town!Snowblaze to made, she's either distracted or a wolf" then can you not do that? I can and will make stupid mistakes as town even when fully engaged.

[Illven]

Ish? Definitely not fully engaged yet.

Though also a) that possibility did occur to me after I saw the contradiction, I was at least half poking that to see what happened, and b) if I'm correct in thinking you're saying "that's a mistake I wouldn't expect a fully engaged town!Snowblaze to made, she's either distracted or a wolf" then can you not do that? I can and will make stupid mistakes as town even when fully engaged.

The thing is, I don't think it's a mistake. I think it's you tying to make false distance like you've suggested doing in games we were both wolves together.

[JeenLeen]

Honestly, I could see Snowblaze's statement as (*=only if wolf)
1) honest misunderstanding
2) she understood me, but wanted to prod me to see how I respond
3)* wolf wanting to get folk to suspect me

Illven calling her out on it is reasonable, especially D1.
Snowblaze saying basically "give me some slack" is reasonable, but seems a little... taking it too personally or contrived. Hard to tell which. It is reasonable to feel frustrated at someone putting heat on you for an innocent question (or reasonable prodding question). I've felt it; I know others have felt it. On the other hand, it seems odd not to see how it's reasonable for Illven to suspect/question Snow about it.
Illven continuing with "but I think you did it on purpose" is legit.

If I saw the votes right, neither is pushing for voting the either. I generally sense wolves when there's arguments but no votes to back them up, though I'm not sure of my track record with that reasoning.
Scumbuddies bantering to distance?
One wolf and the other town?
Two townies squinting at each other?
Any seems possible.

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Clarification: by "Snow's statement", I meant her questioning what I meant in my earlier post.

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Thread ends in a little over 12 hours, if I understand the timestamps right.
So, uh... more discussion from some of y'all?

Not meaning for the above to stop folk from discussing Snowblaze and Illven, but I don't see a good reason to vote there. Or, well, I think Caedorus looks iffier.
We still have a 4-way tie at 2 votes, no?

Caedorus, any reason I should not vote you?

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flat_footed?

[Snowblaze]

The thing is, I don't think it's a mistake. I think it's you tying to make false distance like you've suggested doing in games we were both wolves together.

That... presupposes that I'm a wolf though. Which... fair enough if you suspect me for that but my point was not that, my point was "what I'm implying from your post are the reasons town!me would do that aren't the full set of reasons town!me would do that".

Also, yes, I probably overreacted a little but your post hit a little close to something that's been bothering me for a while. I guess I can elaborate if you want but...

(Jeen: yeah, suspecting/questioning me is reasonable regardless. It's just the choosing to question me with "are you distracted IRL" rather than anything more directly related to my post.)

Anyway. Solvy stuff.

I have no reads, just vague incoherent thoughts.

- Jeen is overanalysing a lot but I can't work out what it says about their alignment. If I had to make a case against them it would be "the way they justified how they don't suspect me even though they suspect Caedorus for doing something similar feels like a wolf trying too hard to be consistent".

Which... honestly if I didn't know my alignment I'd be agreeing with AV that it makes me/Jeen w/w more likely. Since I do I think that argument would be a little stronger if Caedorus flips wolf but has some validity even if he and I are both town.

O...kay I think I've talked myself into actually suspecting Jeen, I have more arguments against them coming to mind on rereading their posts.

...how much do I believe those arguments though? Not that much. I can't really read Jeen in earlygame. But... it's better than the large pile of nothingness that I have for pretty much everyone else.

Um. Illven is null I guess. There's been a recent trend of wolves throwing shade at me earlygame, enough that I'm just going to throw away the read that says doing that is towny. Independently of that I can believe that suspicion coming from an Illven of either alignment.

AV is null. And no-one else has done anything I can even vaguely construe as AI.

Jeen, explain the flat vote please? Or, no, I don't really care about why flat I care about why you unvoted Caedorus despite his being your top suspect rn.