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Prime32

2010-07-23, 02:16 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ8XH5JGyzQ

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Cubey

2010-07-23, 02:32 PM

Should've called this "After War GAD-am X".

So:

They did some of that already in Z.
Yeah, but Za Glory Star is only a single attack (two if you count the map version) and other than that, Balgora and Setsuko are original creations. And Signum on the other hand is, let's face it, ripping off Lamia and Angelg wholesale.

Not that it's a bad thing. Both Lamia and Signum are awesome.

Also, Obari did CompatiKaiser in OGs, so he's had OG experience.
I know. This is why Compatible Kaiser looks just like Gravion.

Bacon Barbarian

2010-07-23, 02:44 PM

Magic is real in the same manner that alchemy is: attempts by people in the past to control their fates in imaginative and complicated ways. Both "worked" enough that they were cemented in history, but neither was successful enough to actually accomplish anything.

No, you dont understand. Things like Auqua Regia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqua_regia), Boom Powder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder) and the discovery of new Elements happened through Alchemy. Alchemy was a science.

Prime32

2010-07-23, 02:48 PM

Should've called this "After War GAD-am X"And now I have.

Yeah, but Za Glory Star is only a single attack (two if you count the map version) and other than that, Balgora and Setsuko are original creations. And Signum on the other hand is, let's face it, ripping off Lamia and Angelg wholesale.If you squint, Wodan Ymir could be a reference to Fate, what with being an insecure clone who wields a zankantou. (yes, I know Zanber Form was a Sanger reference, but Wodan came after Fate)

Also, take a look at this - Super Robot anime with three female pilots:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q0OnCMLkNU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmBpEkKk6u8
Is it just me or does the main character look kinda familiar?

Cubey

2010-07-23, 07:46 PM

Hey, another rare mecha series with a female protagonist!

The artstyle looks very 80s but the series itself apparently comes from 2002. I guess they went for retro stylization on purpose. Getting a kinda Gunbuster meets GaoGaiGar vibe here. The pilot suits really remind me of Evangelion though, or to be even more precise - of Fafner. But Fafner came out in 2004, so it can't be a reference...

0Megabyte

2010-07-24, 12:39 AM

So... anybody know anything about The Five Star Stories?

I've not heard from anyone reliable about it's quality, so I wonder if anyone knows much.

Arbane

2010-07-24, 12:53 AM

Alchemy is a science the same way a Utahraptor is a bird.

Atelm

2010-07-24, 03:29 AM

I don't think the "is/was alchemy a legitimate field of science or not" discussion belongs in this thread anymore, as it isn't really discussed in the context or anime/manga.

---

I'm currently rereading through the Umineko question arcs, and once I'm through with them again I'll have nothing to watch for the time being. Having just finished watching Lain sometime before (seriously, what was that?), I'm presently compiling a list of things to watch. (haven't really taken any sort of real look at what's airing at present though)

Shakugan no Shana third season
Full Metal Panic (have heard considerable praise for this, but know nothing about it; not sure yet)
The Familiar of Zero (same deal as above, but I know the basic premise)
Detective Conan 14th film (having watched all the previous ones, I've made it an annual thing to watch the new one. Even though I don't like the anime adaption otherwise, the manga is ok.)
Haruhi film & Nanoha film (no explanation required, really)
Eden of the East (might as well watch this at some point, and if it's good the films too)
??? (feel free to recommend anything)

Oslecamo

2010-07-24, 05:50 AM

New Negima out!

Aaanndd we're back to the begginning. School life comedy-drama.

Will Negi learn IRON HEART SURGE to break out from there? Or will be rescued by some exterior force? Duh-duh duh!

Closet_Skeleton

2010-07-24, 08:15 AM

Shakugan no Shana third season

?

What third season?

Prime32

2010-07-24, 08:28 AM

New Negima out!

Aaanndd we're back to the begginning. School life comedy-drama.

Will Negi learn IRON HEART SURGE to break out from there? Or will be rescued by some exterior force? Duh-duh duh!

And here I thought the Book of Darkness being created by the Mage of the Beginning was crazy...

Cubey

2010-07-24, 10:16 AM

So... anybody know anything about The Five Star Stories?

I've not heard from anyone reliable about it's quality, so I wonder if anyone knows much.

Only secondhand information. I won't be able to help you much here, but from my impression the series is:
1. Overwhelming in its scope
2. Very, very unusual

Bacon Barbarian

2010-07-24, 10:20 AM

Anybody ever watched the Today in Class 5-2 Anime? Is it as good as the manga?

Cubey

2010-07-24, 10:39 AM

Negima:
Welcome to the Lotus Eater Machine scenario. Now, I wonder when and how will Negi break free... or will he?

After all, what he wanted most is to find his father, and that's what he has now. He might as well just be happy with his existence now, whether or not he realizes it's a false one... okay, we're not fooling anyone. Of course he's breaking free out of this.

And Lotus Eater scenarios usually annoy me when they take too long (read: more than one chapter), but I actually like both School Hijinks Negima and Epic Adventuring Negima. So I'm okay with this one. And it's amusing to see princess Arika act tsundere towards her own son.

Soras Teva Gee

2010-07-24, 11:49 AM

Negima
Negi is totally breaking out of LEM in short order. He's already clued in to its lack of reality and seems to have nearly broken it already. Though taking it over the top with Nagi and Arika might drag this out....

I'm willing to consider at this moment that this is where the two of them have been since Istanbul. Arika seems to have the same concerns as her son about this thing's reality.

Course it still leaves how Nagi left it to rescue Negi a few years later, but this makes sense to me. After all if we establish Nagi as alive, then somebody of his power level has to have some reason for not being around.

It seems to me that its either this or he fell for the previous Fate's offer and got snared by that eagle statue thing to not interefere, which is why the Megalomesembrian senate being being the village attack is significant.

Though these aren't mutually exclusive options either.

Atelm

2010-07-24, 01:32 PM

?

What third season?

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-07-08/producer-plans-3rd-and-final-shana-series-after-s-ova

Of cource, it's not out yet or anything. Just a mental-self-note to watch it if and when it airs. :smallamused:

Dispozition

2010-07-24, 06:24 PM

Anybody ever watched the Today in Class 5-2 Anime? Is it as good as the manga?

I haven't read the manga so I can't comment on it's quality compared to that, but I did enjoy the anime immensely.

Starfols

2010-07-24, 06:50 PM

Ooh, new thread. I forgot to look in here forever.

So, has anyone seen Ichiban Ushiro no Daimaou? Spoiler alert: I hate it. :P

Prime32

2010-07-24, 07:45 PM

Silver Coin

2010-07-24, 10:05 PM

SnS 3 is coming out this fall. As to your request for suggestions, most of these stuff are things you probably have watched before, I'll just list them anyway, in hopes that you'll find something that you have not watched.

Kara no Kyoukai
KyoAni+Key (Clannad, Kanon, Air, Angel Beats)
Fate stay/night
Elfen Lied
School Days
Ef
Higrashu no Naku Koro Ni

Those are the rather more serious ones, though to different degrees.
If you are just looking for fun and sunlight:

Bamboo Blade

I'm not very sunny.

Also, I would suggest that you watch Kugimiya Rie's other works before Zero no Tsukaima, which I would say is average at best. Try Toradora if you haven't watched yet.

Fri

2010-07-24, 10:27 PM

I haven't read the manga so I can't comment on it's quality compared to that, but I did enjoy the anime immensely.

I love both the manga and the anime :smallbiggrin:

I'm not a lolicon though. honest.

LurkerInPlayground

2010-07-24, 11:30 PM

Except Alchemy was real, and magic isnt. So no, its its own thing. In China and the Middl East, it was definitely regarded as a science.
While both those cultures almost arrived at the discovery of modern scientific practice, neither really could go much further than the idea of philosophical naturalism.

As for the Middle East, I could point a finger at a certain very prominent . . . uhhh . . . movement, for retarding progress.

You'll note that Chinese cultural bias tends to see the world as composed of dispassionate energies. This is an improvement over typically "Western" views that were more likely anthropomorphize everything they didn't understand. (Not that the "East" didn't have it's share of paternalistic spirits and gods.)

The problem is that the superstition remains superstition and the culture tends to be obssessed with the notion of internal and external harmony in one form or another (i.e. Daoism, Buddhism, Confucianism, the concept of Chi, Feng Shui and so on). However, "balance" is more an ideal than a fact of the universe. Notably, the classical Greeks also seemed to make the same mistake of confusing the two. (Wizard of Earthsea beats this theme to death with a stick.)

You can also tell a lot about a person by how they like their magic portrayed in fiction. People who think that "A" is "A" are among the more boring examples of this. (Alchemy is alchemy and not magic just because my words say so.)

The other boring permutation of this is when magic is literally just contemporary technology. Except it won't be called technology, because technology is a "sciency" thing used by course and common spirits who are blind to the infinite beauty of the universe. But the magic is just as bland, accessible, commonplace and safe as cellphones; though nobody seems to notice the irony.

Then there's White Wolf "Mages." Magic or "Magick" works exactly the way the metaphysician thinks it should. That is to say: White Wolf is inordinately fond of pretentious sophistry.

I've also concluded that the latter two examples are likely to indicate white guilt.

Cubey

2010-07-25, 12:39 AM

Can we please move the magic/alchemy/whatever discussion to a seperate thread?

Zeful

2010-07-25, 12:41 AM

Was linked to Metal Heart (http://www.mangafox.com/manga/metal_heart) and read a few chapters. It's got to be the most meta Magical Girlfriend (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MagicalGirlfriend) series ever. Also, Kyosuke Nambu appears to be in it for some reason.

Yeah, I'm finding it to be hilarious, though I thought that it was odd being shown left-to-right for a manga. Though the fact that it's a Korean comic might have something to do with that.

Atelm

2010-07-25, 03:29 AM

@S C : Of those listed I've watched Higurashi (orig. sound novels were much, much better), Ef (both seasons) and Angel Beats!.

I'm not touching either School Days or Elfen Lied with a ten-foot pole, for reasons too numerous to mention.

I might take a look at Kara no Kyokai, but the rest of the mentioned that I haven't already addressed don't seem to really be my style.

Edit: And, yes, I've watched Toradora. Amusing enough at times, but not that great of a series in any shape or form.

Silver Coin

2010-07-25, 04:47 AM

Yora

2010-07-25, 07:03 AM

Dispozition

2010-07-25, 07:34 AM

Why have I never heard of this show: Real Drive (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RealDrive)
I think Ghost In the Shell: Stand Alone Complex is one of the best shows ever made, not only because of the action but also because of the quality animation and sound, as well as putting a great deal of deeper thinking into a show about cyborgs blowing stuff up. Real Drive seems to be a similar show, but appparetly without the explosions.
Which I consider a good thing, by the way. :smallwink:

Can't comment on Real Drive (although it does look interesting), I agree with your opinion on GitS SAC. It's just amazing. Saw it again recently and it has to be one of the best balanced shows around, not just in terms of anime, but in terms of everything.

Just thought I'd gush about it...

Yora

2010-07-25, 08:18 AM

*squueeee* :smallbiggrin:

I think I have to get it on DVD and spread the word if it holds what it promisses.

Apparently it's not even available at amazon, but there's one offer from Malaysia on eBay. ^^
I have a friend who's going to Japan after Christmas. I know he'll do a lot of shopping, so I get him to grab it for me.

Soras Teva Gee

2010-07-25, 09:28 AM

Why have I never heard of this show: Real Drive (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RealDrive)
I think Ghost In the Shell: Stand Alone Complex is one of the best shows ever made, not only because of the action but also because of the quality animation and sound, as well as putting a great deal of deeper thinking into a show about cyborgs blowing stuff up. Real Drive seems to be a similar show, but appparetly without the explosions.
Which I consider a good thing, by the way. :smallwink:

Similar sounds like an understatment here. Tvtropes is speculating their part of the same 'Verse

Prime32

2010-07-25, 10:37 AM

I... I don't know where to begin. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dCJsBAqcbA)

Maybe how P1 seems obsessed with trying to cross its arms.

EDIT: Oh, and am I the only one who saw a resemblance?

Also, take a look at this - Super Robot anime with three female pilots:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q0OnCMLkNU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmBpEkKk6u8
Is it just me or does the main character look kinda familiar?
I was talking about the VN, specifically nc's character.

Yora

2010-07-25, 11:08 AM

Similar sounds like an understatment here. Tvtropes is speculating their part of the same 'Verse
With Shiro, you never really know.
Are there any Seburo guns? :smallbiggrin:

Atelm

2010-07-25, 11:42 AM

Then I don't see the point of ZnT. Try something else then. I can see why you wouldn't want to watch those two. If that's the case, drop Kara no Kyoukai as well. Too much blood. High definition, big budget animation blood but yeah. That doesn't really help.

So what is your style?

You misunderstand, I have nothing against violence or brutality in the anime I watch. My reasons for not wanting to watch School Days or Elfen Lied are unrelated to that.

I'm a big mystery and crime fiction buff, certainly not the only type of show I watch but, along with fantasy, my favourite types of show.

Nerd-o-rama

2010-07-25, 01:01 PM

I... I don't know where to begin. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dCJsBAqcbA)

That was the most boring fight involving Gunbuster ever.

EDIT: Then again, it's also the most interesting fight involving Jet Alone ever.

Yora

2010-07-25, 01:01 PM

Elfen Lied is great as a manga, but the anime is really something else. (And really not that good.)
The probably best crime fiction manga there is, is probably Monster. Never seen the anime, but it's quite good from what I've heard.

Prime32

2010-07-25, 01:11 PM

EDIT: Then again, it's also the most interesting fight involving Jet Alone ever.You haven't read Shinji and Warhammer 40K (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/FanFic/ShinjiAndWarhammer40K), have you?

Nerd-o-rama

2010-07-25, 01:31 PM

You haven't read Shinji and Warhammer 40K (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/FanFic/ShinjiAndWarhammer40K), have you?

That fic is the poster Third Child for tl;dr.

LurkerInPlayground

2010-07-25, 02:14 PM

Oh. Real Drive. That thing. I've decided that I'm tired of anime that throw an ambiguous setting at you in favor of actually being coherent, so I never gave it a chance. It seemed unmemorable at the time.

In any case, I had my Ghost in the Shell phase. What fans tend to overlook in SAC series (either one), is that the series tended to have trouble with plotting. And it can get annoying to sit through lengthy expository lectures about politics and setting, when the presentation of the story should imply these things without doing a lot of hand-holding.

Some episodes just try to be trippy and weird in a Twilight Zone kind of way, but just end up being stupid. (Pazu is framed by his stalker ex-girlfriend who is wearing a duplicate of his cybernetic body.)

Also, the quality of the art tended to fluctuate, such that Motoko Kusanagi sometimes looked odd.

KnightDisciple

2010-07-25, 03:26 PM

That fic is the poster Third Child for tl;dr.Read Nobody Dies (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/FanFic/NobodyDies) instead.

Silver Coin

2010-07-26, 07:23 AM

Well, I can see why you think that the Elfen Lied manga is better. I have to agree as well, but I still consider it to be a remarkable achievement in characterisation in such a short period of time. I think the team did a great job given that Executive meddling limited them to 13 episodes. If you've already read the manga, then yes, it's quite pointless to watch again.

I like School Days as a deconstruction of the genre. I'm still not sure what you are looking out for to be honest. I personally just like those that have good characterisation that show off aspects of their personality. This is why I prefer Tragedy over Comedy. No, School Days is a tragedy, not a Tragedy.

So here's the question: Do you like romance? Fate stay/night is, to me at least, more of a romance rather than an adventure, though the fight scene are decent, if not exceptional. I'll have to say I can't provide much on the mystery and fantasy part. I don't watch many of those. Kara no Kyoukai is the only thing I can suggest at the moment, but it's one of those make or break shows.

Prime32

2010-07-26, 07:34 AM

So here's the question: Do you like romance? Fate stay/night is, to me at least, more of a romance rather than an adventure, though the fight scene are decent, if not exceptional. I'll have to say I can't provide much on the mystery and fantasy part. I don't watch many of those. Kara no Kyoukai is the only thing I can suggest at the moment, but it's one of those make or break shows.The original VN (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3088127) of Fate/stay night is SUPERIOR. I can't comment on KnK, since the novels are hard to find.

Silver Coin

2010-07-26, 07:43 AM

I'll give you that. The VN gives a better experience and has a lot more material. I'll also say that it's a good try for an adaptation and a little something for those who either do not have it or doesn't have the time (which I'll admit is probably not an issue since he seems to have too much of it).The thing is, there is only so much that you can put in an anime. You'll need at hundreds of episodes to get all the content of a VN into it (no, that is not a good idea).

No, I haven't gotten to read the KnK novels, but I think the movie adaptations provide a great experience, even if some of the symbology and philosophising maybe excessive to some, but hey, its fun. The only one I take issue with is Episode 6. It feels like the rest of the series were aimed at 17+ and we have this PG film jammed in there. It's a breather but it doesn't fit well. Shame.

Don't think too hard about things like this. Just try to enjoy. That's the way I see it.

Prime32

2010-07-26, 08:02 AM

No, I haven't gotten to read the KnK novels, but I think the movie adaptations provide a great experience, even if some of the symbology and philosophising maybe excessive to some, but hey, its fun.Apparently they cut it down quite a bit. :smalltongue:

The movies also don't have stuff like Shiki's third personality, or the daughter of Shiki and Mikiya. They do have a nice rendition of "Singing in the Rain" though. :smalltongue: (EDIT: Oh, and they changed Touko's hair colour, but it looks like that's going to be changed again with Type-Moon's next project.)

The most jarring thing to me was possibly how the guy trapped in a "Paradox Spiral" looked like Shirou and was voiced by Simon the Digger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetsuya_Kakihara).

Silver Coin

2010-07-26, 08:12 AM

Cutting down is expected, so is the daughter. It's fairly obvious they are going to have children. I think I would have wanted to meet her though. It's a little sad she wasn't shown.
However, allow me to express my considerable surprise:
Shiki had a THIRD personality?!?! How come I'm never told about stuff like this? Damn.

And yeah, the Singing in the Rain was interesting.

Prime32

2010-07-26, 08:23 AM

Shiki had a THIRD personality?!?! How come I'm never told about stuff like this? Damn.Spoilers:Her third "Void" personality is the hole left when her male personality died.

It's the reason Ryougi Shiki can use her MEoDP without strain, unlike Tohno Shiki. Instead of her brain tracing things back to the Akasha, the Akasha itself is inside her and handles the processing.

In other words, Shiki's third personality is God.

Right, that is Shikis power. Like Fujino she can see channels that normal people can't see, she is able to see the spiral of origin with her eyes. But, I can go even deeper. No... maybe I myself am that spiral.

Spiral of origin, its where all cause and effect begin, where everything and nothing exist, that is my true identity. Even though we are just connected, but since I am part of it, I too am an equivocal existence, right? That is why I can do anything..hmm like restructuring the laws governing atomic matter, or go back in time to change the evolution and development of all life, to reconstruct the orders and laws of this world is easy for me too. Not making change to the existing world, but rather annihilate the old one with a new reality.
And that is why a "Nasuverse + Akamatsuverse try to survive in the WH40Kverse" thread turned into "WH40Kverse tries to survive against Ryougi Shiki".

Silver Coin

2010-07-26, 08:29 AM

It was briefly mentioned in Spiral of Origin, but I never thought much about it. I need to pay more attention to this kind of stuff. Weirdness abounds in Nasu-verse. Blink and you'll miss it!

Lifeson

2010-07-26, 08:34 AM

At last I can contribute to GAD. :smallcool:

Kara No Kyoukai is in the list. Up to novel 5, and then stopped because Del Rey apparently picked up the licencing when they started to translate the magazine that KnK debuted in. (http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=54fee9ff60f3b6ecab1eab3e9fa335ca735e29e7 9ba64027)

Atelm

2010-07-26, 09:46 AM

I like School Days as a deconstruction of the genre. I'm still not sure what you are looking out for to be honest. I personally just like those that have good characterisation that show off aspects of their personality. This is why I prefer Tragedy over Comedy. No, School Days is a tragedy, not a Tragedy.

If I can't possibly like the characters, if I loathe the characters already based on what I know, I'm not going to watch the show. That is my main beef with School Days.

That said, I always prefer to read/watch original material to adaptions (Higurashi & Umineko sound novels to their shabby anime counterparts, and the Haruhi novels to their anime adaption, for example).

So here's the question: Do you like romance?

I usually don't watch shows purely about romance, but I don't mind it.

doesn't have the time (which I'll admit is probably not an issue since he seems to have too much of it).

Gee, thanks. :smallsigh:

Silver Coin

2010-07-26, 09:51 AM

Sorry bout that. What can I say? If you are going around asking for recommendations when you already have a pretty decent list, I can only assume so. Still, my bad. At any rate, VNs are always a good way to pass the time and enjoy a different sort of life.

CarpeGuitarrem

2010-07-26, 12:59 PM

So, question. I've a few anime on my list, but I've heard the Gundam name tossed around a lot, and that some of the Gundam series fall squarely into Real Robots terrain, dealing with political issues and the like, and are more focused on wartime drama.

Which ones would those be?

LurkerInPlayground

2010-07-26, 02:39 PM

I'd say that Gundam are wartime dramas with the fantastical element of robots thrown in.

But that'd just be arguing semantics.

001 MS seems like it's basically jungle warfare in the vein of Vietnam, but with robots. So it's more like a war movie, I think. I can't be sure, since I've never bothered finishing it.

Cubey

2010-07-26, 03:23 PM

You mean 08th MS Team, LurkerITP. And it's basically Romeo and Juliet IN VIETNAM, WITH GIANT ROBOTS.

And it kicks ass. You do not have to be familiar with Gundam to understand what is going on, despite it technically being only a side story to the first Gundam proper.

From all Gundam series, the UC ones are most war drama-like. The least is obviously G Gundam, since it's a martial arts tournament with giant robots and more cheese than you can shake a stick at (and that's what makes it so amusing to watch). Everything else falls somewhere in the middle.

Nerd-o-rama

2010-07-26, 04:02 PM

The UC continuity (Mobile Suit Gundam, all of the Gundam OVAs except Endless Waltz, Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam, Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ [sort of], Char's Counterattack, F91, and Victory) are where to go for things that are fairly strictly war dramas. Everything else throws in twists on the idea: Gundam Wing and Gundam 00 are war dramas starring terrorists with superpowered mobile suits, Gundam X is an optimistic war drama in the apocalyptic aftermath of a DIFFERENT war drama, G Gundam is a Super Robot Tournament Fighting show, and Gundam SEED and SEED Destiny are Mobile Suit Gundam and Zeta Gundam reimagined as daytime soap operas.

CarpeGuitarrem

2010-07-26, 04:04 PM

Okay, cool. I think I'll put that one on my list, then. I'm interested to get another perspective on robot anime.

EDIT: Nerd-o-rama, thanks for the overview!

Prime32

2010-07-26, 04:12 PM

Oslecamo

2010-07-26, 05:50 PM

The original VN (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3088127) of Fate/stay night is SUPERIOR.

I'm reading trough it and even then the amount of casual romance is staggering.

OH GODS I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF A BATTLE OF LIFE OR DEATH WITH WIZARDS AND LEGENDARY ANCIENT HEROES! :smalleek:

What sophisticated sumptuous banquet shall I cook for breakfast for my harem?:smallsigh:

Prime32

2010-07-26, 05:55 PM

Zabel_Zarock

2010-07-26, 06:03 PM

Hi new here & finally noticed this thread, read more manga than I watch anime, mainly into Seinen & Josei stuff but I have no problems reading Shounen, here's the massive list of stuff that I'm reading

Abareru Inu
Acid Town
Amagami - Sincerely Yours
Arisa
Baby Pop
Blame!
Blood Alone
Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai
Boy Next Door
Butterfly Baby
Cafe Relish ni Oide
Chrome Shelled Regios - Missing Mail
Daisuki Daisuki
Emma
Emma Bangaihen
Ezakike e Youkoso
Floating Garden
Flowers
GE - Good Ending
Go! Tenba Cheerleaders
Gokuraku Cafe
Hatsukoi Shimai
High School of The Dead
Himichu no Ayako-sama
Hinadori Girl
Hohzuki Island
Hydra
Ichigo Mashimaro
Ichigo no Gakkou
Jasmine
Kanamemo
Kill Me Baby
Koi Neko
Kuro****suji
Leona Explosion
Little Butterfly
Love Junkies
Lucifer & Biscuit Hammer
Maid in Japan
Manga no Tsukurikata
Mangaka-san to Assistant-san to
Maria-sama ga Miteru
Masturbation Master Kurosawa
Medaka Box
Megane na Kanojo
Mel Kano
Miman Renai
Mitsudomoe
Mouryou no Yurikago
My Lovely Ghost Kana
Mysterious Girlfriend X
One Piece
Onihime VS
Oniichan Control
Oninagi
Ouran High School Host Club
Otaku no Musume-san
Otoshimono
Paradise Heaven!
Running on Empty
Sankarea
Soutennenshoku Otomegumi
Stardust Wink
Sukimasuki
Tasogare Otome x Amnesia
Ten Yori Takaku
Toukyou Akazukin
Triage X
Uniform
Working!!
Yume Midokoro

I've been thinking about starting Negima and while I would have no problem starting from the beginning I got a massive amount of catch up to do obviously and was wondering if their was a specific arc I should start at to get up to speed quickly while I catch up from the beginning. I've also been thinking about picking up Break Blade for a new Mecha series seeing how Translations for Linebarrels of Iron have unfortunately stopped.

Prime32

2010-07-26, 06:06 PM

I've been thinking about starting Negima and while I would have no problem starting from the beginning I got a massive amount of catch up to do obviously and was wondering if their was a specific arc I should start at to get up to speed quickly while I catch up from the beginning/That's probably not a good idea. The early chapters, while not as exciting, introduce a large portion of the cast. And it's a large cast.

Zabel_Zarock

2010-07-26, 06:08 PM

That's probably not a good idea. The early chapters, while not as exciting, introduce a large portion of the cast. And it's a large cast.
I still plan on going back & reading the beginning chapters, I'm just really impatient & wanna get to the main story as quickly as possible. I've done the same thing with One Piece *Started at the Arlong Arc & was going back & reading the older chapters in between releases*.

Nerd-o-rama

2010-07-26, 06:15 PM

You forgot Turn A Gundam.

War drama about hippies in the 1920's.

Prime32

2010-07-26, 06:27 PM

I still plan on going back & reading the beginning chapters, I'm just really impatient & wanna get to the main story as quickly as possible. I've done the same thing with One Piece *Started at the Arlong Arc & was going back & reading the older chapters in between releases*.Let's see... arcs and chapters:
The Child Teacher Arc (1-15)
Evangeline Arc (16-25)
Kyoto Field Trip Arc (26-53)
Training/Wilhelm Arc (54-71)
School Festival Arcs (72-168)
Magic World Arc (169+)

You could possibly skip the first arc, though the Kyoto arc won't make sense without the second (and you don't want to start any later than Kyoto). The story picks up gradually rather than all at once - it's interesting to see the escalation over time, and later events won't mean much if you don't see the journey (foreshadowing and character development ftw).

Said escalation also makes it feel weird to read arcs out of order, since characters' entire ability sets can change, where most shonen would just give them a new energy beam that's larger than the old one.

Matar

2010-07-27, 12:51 AM

SO MAN.

I just thought I should say that The Lucifer and Biscuit Hammer is wicked awesome and that you should all read it.

Now I say!

Cubey

2010-07-27, 01:09 AM

War drama about hippies in the 1920's.

My description of Turn A Gundam: any movie Morgan Freeman has ever been in, only now he's the main character, 40 years younger, Indian and not black, and forced to crossdress often. Oh, and giant robots are supposedly involved.

SO MAN.

I just thought I should say that The Lucifer and Biscuit Hammer is wicked awesome and that you should all read it.

Now I say!

Indeed, it is a great series. I thought you were familiar with it already? What with Todd in my game being a lot like Mikazuki.

And now that I have said it, I hope I didn't give you any ideas...

LurkerInPlayground

2010-07-27, 07:38 AM

My description of Turn A Gundam: any movie Morgan Freeman has ever been in, only now he's the main character, 40 years younger, Indian and not black, and forced to crossdress often. Oh, and giant robots are supposedly involved.
Except his voice. Which remains like rich and authoritative chocolate.

Prime32

2010-07-27, 07:40 AM

I want to see a movie that teams up Morgan Freeman with Patrick Stewart.

"ALL HUMANS MUST DIE!"
"Please stop."
"Okay."

NeonBlack

2010-07-27, 12:34 PM

Well, I guess it's time to introduce myself to the thread. I've been lurking for a while, and I felt it was time to say hi and join the fray, so to speak.

My (somewhat incomplete, my long-term memory is quite unreliable) manga & anime CV follows, complete with comments on what I've read/seen and expectations on what's to come in the near future:

Completed/mostly completed/aborted (roughly in chronological order):

Anime series:

- Ulysses 31 (My favourite animated series as a (very) small kid. Can't remember much about it besides loving it, though. I'd rewatch it, but I'm afraid it will look terrible nowadays)
- Dragon Ball + Dragon Ball Z (Of course. DB rocked my pre-teen world back in the late eighties. DBZ didn't reach those standards but was still good fun until Freeza, then dragged on terribly during the Cell saga, picked up to almost-DB levels when Gohan got the focus during his high school days, then dropped again during the Boo saga, which is when I gave up on it. I've only watched the odd GT chapter, and won't touch that with a ten-foot pole)
- Dr. Slump (Toriyama's true masterpiece, imo. Wacky fun)
- Kinnikuman (The Ensemble Darkhorse of the anime series in local TV during the late 80s, still has a lots of fans around here despite directly competing with DB and Dr. Slump, and the manga was recently reissued. Liked it until it got too serious for its own good in the later half. One to rewatch some day, although it's *huge*)
- Ranma 1/2 (All-time favourite of mine, despite never really ending (no, that ending doesn't count). Ryouga remains as one of my favourite characters of all time)
- Sailor Moon (aborted) (It aired just before Ranma, so I ended up watching it. Saw the first main arc and pieces of the second before getting bored by its repetitiveness. Only magical girl series I've seen so far)
- Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken (Replaced DBZ for a while in local TV after the Freeza saga. Absolutely loved it, but DBZ returned soon and I never got to see the ending. Planning on rewatching it and/or reading the manga soon, if I can find them)
- Captain Tsubasa (Every male kid between 8 and 16 watched this in the early 90s in Spain, no questions asked. It was quite bad in hindsight, but still addictive in a weird way. Wouldn't mind catching up with the later chapters and/or the manga, but the sheer size of it all scares me)
- Mikan Enikki (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=1946) (Focused on a talking orange cat, silly as it sounds. Either it was cut short or I missed the conclusion, because I don't remember seeing the end. So unknown that I can't even find it on TvTropes! :smallbiggrin: Would kill to rewatch it, but it looks terribly hard to find it anywhere)
- Neon Genesis Evangelion (Took me two tries to get into it, but I enjoyed it thoroughly when it finally clicked. Loved the action and the odd fun chapters, kind of glossed over the philosophical/depressive themes. Only mecha series I've ever watched in full)
- Battle Angel Alita (Watched it years after reading the manga, and was disappointed that it only covered the first two volumes. Still decent, but too short)
- Kare Kano (aborted) (The mid-90s brought an invasion of romantic animes to Spanish TV, and I gave this one a try just to see what the whole thing was about. It had some funny moments, but I grew bored of it around the sixth or seventh chapter after one too many indecisions by the main characters, and never looked back. Romance works better on manga form for me)
- Azumanga Daioh! (The series that single-handedly brought me back into anime after an almost 10-year-long hiatus. Simply perfect)
- Love Hina (Slightly disappointing. My mistake was reading the manga before watching the anime, I guess. Still fun, but could/should have been much better)
- Death Note (Completely hooked me on my first way through, not so much on my second. The more I watch it, the more I notice its flaws. Still good nonetheless)
- The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (Azumanga brought me back, and Haruhi made me stay. I'm just glad I only watched the first season at first, because I may have changed my mind if I had come across Endless Eight before falling in love with the whole cast. I want a t-shirt with the SOS Brigade logo sooo badly)
- Fate/Stay Night (See Love Hina. A decent adaptation with some good points and some epic moments, but ultimately quite average. And I made the huge mistake of watching it before playing through UBW and HF, and thus was spoilered to death. Sigh)

Movies:

- Akira (A great way to start with the more serious/adult side of anime, back when I was around 15. Kaneda is still my textbook definition of Normal Badass)
- Everything Miyazaki, except Porco Rosso (Princess Mononoke caught my attention while Chihiro hit me over the head with the Love Hammer, the rest is history. Currently catching up with Miyazaki's back catalog thanks to a re-issue of all the Ghibli movies in DVD around here)
- Whispers of the Heart (The only non-Miyazaki Ghibli movie I've seen so far, and it was good. More may come in the future, probably Ocean Waves and/or Only Yesterday)
- NGE 1.11: You Are (Not) Alone (Great remake. The animation is top-notch (the Sixth Angel fight was simply fantastic), and the story focus seems to have shifted to the parts I liked the most about the original. Gonna be following this for sure)
- Summer Wars (Saw it just five days ago, and I'm hitting myself for not doing so earlier. Simply beautiful, would probably become my favourite anime movie ever if I wasn't such a Miyazaki fanboi)

Manga:

- Battle Angel Alita (Not the most usual place to start reading manga, I guess. Enjoyed it quite a bit, although I don't remember if I ever read the final chapter)
- DNA2 (My first contact with Katsura was through one of his wackiest works, and that wackiness and the action are what made me love it. Fanservice and some healthy doses of romance didn't hurt either)
- Video Girl AI (aborted) (I don't know if I expected this to be more like DNA2, but the thing is I just couldn't finish it. Too slow, too long, too little, and a serious dislike for the main character made me stop. May return to it someday, but not soon)
- I''s (On contrast, I''s hooked me for some reason. I still disliked Ichitaka (what's with Katsura's protagonists that make me want to punch them in the face?), but he got better, and the story dragged me in until the end. Manly tears were shed along the way, of course)
- Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind (Best manga ever, period)
- Akira (So glad I read this after watching the movie. The whole second half of the story was great, and some of the art in this (those buildings falling over, for example) was just stunning, and it also helped me to understand some of the finer points of the movie that kind of flew over my head at first. A great read)
- Ranma 1/2 (I came here looking for the real end to the story, and came out almost as disappointed. The stuff that didn't make it to the anime was more of the same, but since "the same" was damn good to start with, I couldn't complain too much)
- Adolf (Master Tezuka showed me that manga can be used to tell any story with Adolf, and he did so in style)
- Love Hina (Azumanga brought me back to anime, and Love Hina brought me back to manga. The best parts of Katsura's works, mixed with over-the-top comedy and some occasional action and adventure just happened to hit my sweet spot. I'm still bitter about Naru getting Keitaro ahead of Shinobu, though, crystal clear as it was from the beginning)
- Battle Royale (Somewhat weird art style, but it worked for me somehow. Funnily enough, I read it before watching the movie (and I still haven't read the novel), meaning that the killings still managed to surprise me, and that improved the experience)
- Azumanga Daioh! (Read it before watching the anime, and oh my god was it good. I'm thankful that the Spanish translators found a way to stick explanations to most of the Japanese pop culture references sprinkled throughout the series, otherwise I would have missed more than half the fun)
- Rune Soldier Louie (Just plain old fun. I went into it with little to no expectations, and left wanting more, it felt too short to me. I'll probably hunt down the anime someday)
- Midori no Hibi (See Louie, only this time the story had exactly the perfect lenght. The characters were lovable, the story was sweet and the funnies were funny. Not a masterwork by any means, but I enjoyed it immensely in any case)

Other:

- Fate/Stay Night VN (Well, mostly completed. Only things left are the UBW Good End (although I already read it in the Let's Play in SA's forums), HF's Normal End, hunting down 90% of the Tiger Dojos and Last Episode. This was my first VN, and I've enjoyed every second of it so far. I have to thank this thread for bringing this to my attention, as well as Ever 17)

***

In progress:

Anime series:

- K-On! (Okay, I don't think I've been this hooked to an anime series since, uh, Azumanga? Makes sense, because I see this as a slightly less surreal Azumanga plus music, and that's the definition of all that's good in this world in my books. Fantastic animation, too. Currently starting with the second season, I'm already missing the first season's title song...)
- Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann (Another one I've started with after seeing way too many reccomendations in this thread. Four chapters in, so far so awesome)
- Midori no Hibi (Adaptation Distillation indeed. I've watched five chapters so far, and I really hope that the end doesn't end up feeling rushed due to it being only thirteen chapters long. So far it looks like they managed to trim the story to its core while still remaining faithful to the original, and that's good)
- Keroro Gunso (My current source for over-the-top comedy. Around 85 chapters in, things are starting to get a bit stale, but the alien frogs are still funny as hell)

Manga:

- One Piece (There had to be some straight up shounen somewhere, I guess... 48 volumes read, 4 translated (to Spanish) volumes to go, lots of untranslated stuff afterwards. The CP9/Ennies Lobby arc seemed to drag a bit, but it ended in such a high note that I'm hooked once again. May have to hunt scanlations soon...)
- Yotsuba! (Yup, Azuma outdid himself. Yotsuba is almost as funny as Azumanga, about ten times sweeter, and the art has improved 100x. 6 volumes read, 8 translated so far. Want more. Nao)
- Haruhi Suzumiya (on hold) (Read volume 1, wasn't impressed, and I haven't found much reason to continue so far, but the fact that it will cover parts of the story that so far haven't been animated and/or officially translated in light novel form keeps me interested. With 6 volumes already translated around here, I may come back to it soon-ish)
- Fairy Tail (on hold) (One Piece 2.0, WITH MAGIC. Or so it seems to me after the first twenty-something chapters. Still somewhat interesting, though, I'll give it another go in the future)
- Dr. Slump (Recently reissued in a new deluxe format in Spain, the perfect excuse to buy it twenty-something years after watching the anime. Ah, nostalgia... Five volumes out so far, all owned and read)
- Mahou Sensei Negima (Read through it all at lightning speed in two or three weeks, and now that I've caught up with the scanlations I feel that Akamatsu should draw faster, dammit. My favourite series right now, together with Yotsuba!. Hoping for Nodoka to avenge Shinobu and grab the big prize :smallbiggrin:)

Other:

- Haruhi Suzumiya light novels (Only the first two (Melancholy and Sigh) have been translated around here (both read, both enjoyed), but the rest should be coming along soon-ish. I may grow impatient and hunt down the English versions before that happens, though)
- Ever 17: The Out of Infinity (Again, thanks for talking this up on here so I could know about its existence. Finished the Kid routes a while ago, and I'm taking a break from it before tackling the rest. Will probably get to it during the summer. Great so far)

***

Next in line:

- NGE 2.22: You Can (Not) Advance (1.11 was great, this should follow suit)
- Cowboy Bebop (Yeah, I've been spoiled. Gonna enjoy it anyway)
- Kara no Kyoukai (I'm curious about the rest of the Nasuverse, so I think this should be a good point to continue after F/SN. The Tsukihime VN may be next if I like this)
- Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha (If I don't like this, I'm not touching another magical girl show in my life. Another one I've seen mentioned lots of times around here)
- Record of the Lodoss War (Why the heck I haven't watched this before now, I don't know. Time to fix that)
- Rurouni Kenshin (Watched a few chapters many years ago, thought it was good, never came back to finish it. Time to fix that, too)
- Planetes (See Kenshin)

I guess I'll follow up with the usual first question: what next? The "Next in line" section should keep me occupied for at least the whole summer, but I like planning in advance. I guess my next task would be to fill up some of the (huge) gaps those ten years of inactivity left in my anime list. Things like Trigun, Slayers or Ghost in the Shell should fit there, and Cowboy Bebop and RotLW are on my list for that same reason.

About new-ish series, Lucky Star looks like my kind of thing, but I should probably increase my meta-knowledge about the otaku world to be able to catch most of the references before watching it. Baccano! looked vaguely interesting when I read the summary on TvTropes. Otherwise, I'm quite stumped. Any ideas?

Prime32

2010-07-27, 12:40 PM

Slayers by all means. Nanoha takes a while to pick up, but judging by the stuff on your list that shouldn't be a problem. You should probably watch GaoGaiGar first though (well, you should watch that anyway).

Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex is probably more enjoyable than the movies.

KnightDisciple

2010-07-27, 12:41 PM

Oh, by the by.

This (http://atopfourthwall.blogspot.com/2010/07/interview-with-johnny-yong-bosch.html) may be relevant to the interests of people in this thread.:smallwink:

Tengu_temp

2010-07-27, 01:38 PM

Way ahead of ya. Seen it when it appeared.

hanzo66

2010-07-27, 01:43 PM

Lifeson

2010-07-27, 01:50 PM

Yeah, Shirou is...

...Shirou.

(except in the second route and the climax of the third)

Some people have suggested that the food scenes are meant to be symbolic in some way. When Shirou meets unsavoury people, the food is unsavoury. When he can't prepare a meal... :smalleek:

Shirou just thinks food is important...though this is coming from a guy who gets approx. 4 1/2 hours of sleep a day normally. And Shirou is always Shirou, he just...develops a few. Or, projects a few, rather.

Cubey

2010-07-27, 01:50 PM

@NeonBlack:

Judging from the list of series you are familiar with, you should have enough nerd-cred to understand most of Lucky Star. Some very brief knowledge of Gundam will help (as in, not necessarily watching any series, just knowing what it is roughly about), and Full Metal Panic! is necessary for some jokes. In fact, that's what I suggest you watch - Full Metal Panic. The premise is as follows: present day Japan, although in a slightly different universe than ours (the Soviet Union is still around for example), our heroine is an every day Japanese high school girl. Unfortunately for her, she possesses a hidden ability which makes her a target for terrorists. So, the mercenary organisation Mithril issues a soldier to protect her. However, Sagara Sousuke, the mercenary in question, was fighting all his life so he has little knowledge of how normal civilian life works. Hijinks follow.

It's a mix of serious drama, comedy and genuinely heartwarming romance. All elements that make the series are very well made. It also has mecha if that's your cup of tea, but if it isn't then they do not have plot focus - so you should not be too bothered.

Also, a note from me: Nanoha starts out pretty average. The series gets better in time. Much better.

LurkerInPlayground

2010-07-27, 02:00 PM

Yeah, saw that a while ago, though I couldn't finish it due to problems with blip.tv I've been having.

So anyways I've taken to watching the new season of Sengoku Basara and I'm planning on starting Heroman. Yeah, I've recently taken a taste for series that, for a lack of a better term, lack subtlety to their style. They might be fun though.
Meh. I think BONES needed a project like Heroman to give grounding to their ceaseless bull**** head-up-in-the-clouds style of production.

From that perspective, Heroman may easily be their most polished show. It's not exceedingly ambitious, but that's a good thing; considering that all other BONES shows can be characterized as unrealistically ambitious.

Atelm

2010-07-28, 02:11 AM

Nearly finished with my reread of Umineko, as I'm just at the very ending phases of EP 4.

- Ever 17: The Out of Infinity (Again, thanks for talking this up on here so I could know about its existence. Finished the Kid routes a while ago, and I'm taking a break from it before tackling the rest. Will probably get to it during the summer. Great so far)

Yay, good to know more people have been corrupted made to know the awesomeness that is Ever17. :smallbiggrin:

Silver Coin

2010-07-28, 07:55 AM

So many Visual Novels. So little time. Ever17 will have to wait. :smallfrown:

Nanoha starts out pretty average. The series gets better in time. Much better.At any rate, I agree with the comment on Nanoha. It was less uplifting than I thought it would be (just finished watching NGE) but I thoroughly enjoyed it nonetheless. I'm still a little surprised that they bothered making a Magical Girl series dedicated towards a Seinen audience. Awesome.

Also, can I just ask how many of you guys managed to figure out the solutions for Higurashi from the Answer Arcs alone, without outside aid, or even came close to getting them right? Referring to the manga in this case. I'm wondering how much effort I should put into trying to solve them.

Attilargh

2010-07-28, 08:06 AM

Read newest Nanoha F. Boring infodump was boring (and bad translation was awful), but at least it gave us some awesome battle cannons.

Also, woop, Damaged Goods (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-07-28/nisioisin-kizumonogatari-light-novel-gets-anime)! Now, if only I could find the fourteenth episode of Ghostory somewhere... :smallannoyed:

NeonBlack

2010-07-28, 08:55 AM

Yay, good to know more people have been corrupted made to know the awesomeness that is Ever17. :smallbiggrin:

Corrupted is right :smallbiggrin:. It's awesome indeed, too bad the rest of the series aren't translated as far as I know, or I would be chasing after them right now. Although I think I read somewhere about Remember 11 being at least partially fan translated... Hm, tempting.

Thanks everyone for your suggestions, by the way. Yeah, I've been warned already about Nanoha starting slow, and I'm ready to give it time. GaoGaiGar looks like a fantastic way to follow up on TTGL when I'm done with it (one week from now, tops), and FMP looks interesting. Gundam too, but it's oh so big it's hard to find the time and place to get started with it. I'll look into it once my current backlog is cleared, probably.

Cubey

2010-07-28, 09:59 AM

Oh yeah, GaoGaiGar starts even slower than Nanoha. At the start, Gai's options are very limited because his toys and allies have yet to be introduced, and the series follows a very formulaic Zonder appears-battle-Heaven And Hell! format. It gets better in a few episodes though.

Prime32

2010-07-28, 11:22 AM

Heaven And Hell!
*slaps* :smallannoyed:

Cubey

2010-07-28, 12:24 PM

Yes, I know it's Hell and Heaven. Always mix those two up - blame Guilty Gear.

Nanoha Force:
Signum isn't dead. I don't even have to say "called it", because really: Fans were raging already, this would set the whole world ablaze.

But the Huckebein continue to be annoying. Even if you're nice about it, you're still unrepentant a-holes who kill people for selfish reasons. Also, how dare you make fun of flat-chested girls, bitch!

And yeah, upgrades for Nanoha and Vita. One awesome thing about this comic.

Overall, a pretty good chapter but I still like ViViD better.

Atelm

2010-07-28, 12:49 PM

Also, can I just ask how many of you guys managed to figure out the solutions for Higurashi from the Answer Arcs alone, without outside aid, or even came close to getting them right? Referring to the manga in this case. I'm wondering how much effort I should put into trying to solve them.

I'm assuming you mean Question Arcs? Since the Answer Arcs give out the solutions to pretty much all the mysteries, while the preceding Question Arcs, well, present them.

Having read some of the Higurashi sound novels (question arcs only of those), and presently reading the manga, and having watched the anime. I can say this; the manga is a faithful adaption and within are all the main points needed to solve everything, since Ryukishi07 supervised the manga adaption.

Personally, I managed to figure out the mastermind behind everything based on the question arcs alone; however that is all, I had no clue on motive, methods, or anything else. Then, when going through the answer arcs, I figured out what clues pointed towards what. If you really think, really theorise, and connect all of the similarities and differences in the Question Arcs and manage to find all the clues and spot the red herrings, you can solve everything.

It won't be easy, but it is possible.

For me, the biggest enjoyment I got out of Higurashi was trying to solve it all. :smallsmile:

It's awesome indeed, too bad the rest of the series aren't translated as far as I know, or I would be chasing after them right now. Although I think I read somewhere about Remember 11 being at least partially fan translated... Hm, tempting.

Ah, yes. I did mention that to LoR in the previous thread, or the one before that. There's a fan translation project on-going, and can be found here. Although, they aren't finished yet. :smallsmile:

http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Remember11_-_the_age_of_infinity

Rogue 7

2010-07-28, 02:03 PM

mallorean_thug

2010-07-28, 03:55 PM

Nearly finished with my reread of Umineko, as I'm just at the very ending phases of EP 4.

Yay, good to know more people have been corrupted made to know the awesomeness that is Ever17. :smallbiggrin:

Well, I ended up starting Ever17 just this last weekend as well, and I'm finding it rather enjoyable. Started with the Kid arcs and now am this far:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4132/4838261299_deb64afc85_b.jpg

Most recently got the Sora/Tsugumi bad ending, so now I need to go back and figure out how to avoid it. It actually kind of suprised me because for my first play through I got the Good You ending. Every edning I've found since then has just been more and more depressing. Guessing by the blanks that I still need to find a bad ending for the You arc, though.

Oh and Atelm, you should post your thoughts about the mysteries of Umineko after you get through your reread. After lurking around animesuki for a while, it would be good to hear opinions from somebody that doesn't have the trolling clues and hints available from EP6. Personally, I plan on a reread just before the english patch for EP7 comes out, to see if I can actually solve it before more is revealed.

In other news, I just finished watching Durarara!! I really enjoyed it, but the ongoing nature of its source material kept it from really having any overall closure, even as it tied up its arcs very nicely in both cases. It definitely isn't Baccano! by any stretch, but thats not a bad thing because you really don't need to compare the two (though with the cameos and references it is rather hard not to) Additionally, its understanding of current tech and web culture is up there with Eden of the East (though it doesn't have nearly as much to say about the topic, the idea of essentially weaponizing 4chan is funny in and of itself). However, I do wish that with its massive character list that we had spent less time with Mikado and Anri, and more time with everybody else. Either way, it was worth my time, I'm hoping for second season whenever there's enough material from the books to warrant it, but it definitely isn't the first thing I'd recommend that people watch.

Cubey

2010-07-28, 05:20 PM

Rogue 7

2010-07-28, 05:58 PM

@Rogue7:

Well, there is always the "hand yourself over to TSAB and hope they and their huge R&D division figure something out" approach. Since Our Most Beloved Perverted Leader Hayate-chan is in charge now, a repeat of the Book of Darkness incident is unlikely. And even if it was - collecting magical organs without killing anyone and trying not to do more harm than necessary is one thing, and slaying people so you won't go insane is another.

And it certainly is selfish. Killing others so you retain your senses, in other words working for your own benefit but making others suffer? That's the very definition of selfish.

Oh, yes, there are certainly better options (and one would hope that Touma does the smart thing and tries for them), and I think you hit the nail on the head with that one. The true good thing to do would be for Huckbein to kill themselves right out, rather than make others suffer. But I have a hard time completely condemning people for "trying to stay sane" as their motive for killing. As selfish things go, retaining your basic humanity is something that's rather understandable.

Prime32

2010-07-28, 06:19 PM

Force:
First the Book of Darkness was created by the Mage of the Beginning, now Eclipse is Magia Erebea. The crossover is begging to be written.

And I want to know what the ship being "dual-transitional" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD1LlDhItF0) means. :smallwink:

Silver Coin

2010-07-29, 01:56 AM

Thanks Atlem. I'll keep trying. Still waiting for the last Question Arc volume to come out in English. I guess I'll give up and read the Answer Arcs when they are published in English if I can't figure it out till then.

Atelm

2010-07-29, 02:27 AM

Oh and Atelm, you should post your thoughts about the mysteries of Umineko after you get through your reread. After lurking around animesuki for a while, it would be good to hear opinions from somebody that doesn't have the trolling clues and hints available from EP6. Personally, I plan on a reread just before the english patch for EP7 comes out, to see if I can actually solve it before more is revealed.

I'm presently brainstorming with that, as I finished with EP 4 last night. Here's what I got on the Epitaph so far:

For the epitaph, the only things I can come up with and facts I know are the following;

1) The epitaph is supposedly the way by which one can find Beatrice's 10 tons of gold. And it can be solved.
2) The sacrifices are letters, not people. The twilights are the order in which letters of a word are to be removed. According to EVA it is to be looked at as a very childish puzzle, a word-play.
3) Eva/EVA and Rosa both almost immediately know where the key that offers sacrifices is.
4) The room with the gold is likely underground, and it can be reached in 15-25 min of walking from Toraian (Guesthouse).
5) Kinzo's "beloved hometown" may be the starting point, but the "sweetfish river" is not all that important in itself. EVA solved it by instructing Eva to think of something similar to a river, or to think of sweetfish, which can swim down and up stream of a river and into the ocean, as a metaphor. Rosa solved it by thinking of it like a family tree.
6) Eva found the answer to the river in an old atlas, probably printed around the 50's or so.
7) Accordingly with there being a need for at least 11 sacrifices, or 13 if the second twilight also means removing letters instead of separating two close ones, the word to be offered needs to have at least 11 or 13 letters, and therefore is unlikely to be Japanese.
8) Kumasawa had taken special notice of the English inscription on the door of the chapel; 'this door will open only with a probability of quadrillion to one, you will be rewarded with a miracle on a probability of a quadrillion to one.' [going purely off memory for that exact phrase] Quadrillion is 11 letters, and in English, and would fit.
9) Erika was suprised by what the epitaph meant by "gouging".

Now, as the atlas Eva used was most likely from the 50's or earlier, and the river can be thought of as a metaphor, I myself came to a conclusion. The "sweetfish river" the epitaph mentions is a road, or, more likely, a railroad. And by knowing where Kinzo's "beloved hometown" was, like Eva and Rosa did, one can find clues, most likely in either old town or station names. Somehow by using these names, one will figure out how 'quadrillion' is to be offered to the key.

One possible location for Kinzo's hometown in Japan was Odawara, where the Ushiromiya main family is said to have lived before the war; however before the Great Kanto Earthquake of 1923 Kinzo is said to have had no dealings with the main family, being a member of a branch of a branch family. Therefore, Rudolf states in EP 3 that it is very unlikely that Kinzo would consider Odawara his hometown.

I don't fancy my chances of solving the epitaph for my knowledge of Japanese is limited, so that is as far as I believe I can get with regards to that particular puzzle.

I'll post my thoughts on the individual episodes themselves as I can form them into something resembling coherent.

Prime32

2010-07-29, 10:46 AM

I'll just leave this (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0584/moe_147153_fate_testarossa_mahou_senki_lyrical_nan oha_force_mahou_shoujo_lyrical_nanoha_thighhi) here (http://moe.imouto.org/post/show/147148).

Nerd-o-rama

2010-07-29, 11:03 AM

I'll just leave this (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0584/moe_147153_fate_testarossa_mahou_senki_lyrical_nan oha_force_mahou_shoujo_lyrical_nanoha_thighhi) here (http://moe.imouto.org/post/show/147148).

DAT

ASS.

By which I mean "Anti-Ship Sword". It looks kinda like Destiny Gundam's, no?

Hey, random top of the page for the second time in a row. It's like it's three threads ago.

Prime32

2010-07-29, 11:13 AM

By which I mean "Anti-Ship Sword". It looks kinda like Destiny Gundam's, no?It seems Bardiche's upgrade has a role similar to Exia's GN-Blade - it works differently to the other Anti-Eclipse weapons in case they stop working.

Nerd-o-rama

2010-07-29, 11:22 AM

Just going off of appearance, I'm guessing it's a physical blade covered in a barrier to make double sure Eclipse doesn't just eat straight through it. This being based off of Teana's anti-Anti Magic Field trick from StrikerS, which I'm fairly surprised wasn't already adapted into fighting Eclipse-infected by now.

Attilargh

2010-07-29, 12:50 PM

By which I mean "Anti-Ship Sword". It looks kinda like Destiny Gundam's, no?
No, not really (http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x112/ngeekhiong3/MG_Destiny_SP_01.jpg). It does remind me of something, but can't put my finger on it yet.

Cubey

2010-07-29, 02:14 PM

Banpreios? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j01gILFIC0w#t=135)

Yora

2010-07-29, 06:22 PM

What are we supposed to see in this video?

Tengu_temp

2010-07-29, 06:26 PM

A possible inspiration for Bardiche's new form?

Prime32

2010-07-29, 06:35 PM

What are we supposed to see in this video?"CHOU HISSATSU! TENJO TENGE NENDOU MUSOUKEN, RYUUSEI-GIRI!"

Soras Teva Gee

2010-07-30, 03:06 PM

Terraoblivion

2010-07-30, 05:18 PM

Not going to try and catch up with every post here, but i will say that i'm back from Japan.

Poison_Fish

2010-07-30, 05:19 PM

Welcome back, now did you bring enough to share with the whole class?

kamikasei

2010-07-31, 09:11 AM

New Negima.
Saishoudoukin!

I wonder whether that dream was Setsuna's, or Konoka's?

Cubey

2010-07-31, 01:31 PM

Negima:
I assume that was Konoka's dream world, since there was also a vision of Setsuna and Konoka as kids, and I think that was Setsuna's. She seemed happiest when she could protect ojou-sama in the past.

So yeah, Konoka has a dirty mind. Nothing new.

And it's always amusing to see Arika act tsundere on her own son.

Overall, fun chapter.

Terraoblivion

2010-07-31, 01:45 PM

Negima
It fits Arika's general behavior, so no surprise there. And yeah, she's incredibly awkward socially.

And i concur that is indeed Konoka's dream world, which should put any lingering doubt about her homosexuality at rest. I know that there are still some people who refuse to believe that those two want to sleep together. Also interesting that it was actually not Zazie we saw earlier, but her older sister dressed like her. Seems like there is more to the clown than we thought.

NeonBlack

2010-07-31, 03:42 PM

More Negima:
Yeah, Konoka's the most likely culprit. Although I wouldn't be surprised if this came from Setsuna's hyper-repressed feelings. Anyway, this was a great little chapter, probably my favourite since Nodoka's counterattack. Arika turning awkwardness into an art form was fantastically fun.

And those dream worlds were a really cute way to see inside the minds of the cast. Some of them weren't surprising at all, like Kamo swimming in underwear or Natsumi all lovey-lovey with Kotarou, but I certainly didn't expect a total absence of Negi in Yue's dream. Nodoka's was surprisingly tame, given our, ahem, previous experiences with her subconcious mind. And talking about that, looks like Nodoka is not the only one thinking about threesomes. Right, Luna? :smallbiggrin:

In other news, I just finished watching Nanoha's first series/season/whatever. Took me less than two days. Yeah, I liked this one quite a bit. It's not so much that it starts slow, but the fact that it manages to keep in a constant crescendo from (almost) start to (almost) finish, with the 2-3 first chapters introducing the cast and the setting in a gentle manner and leaving the last chapter as a breather/tear jerker/wrap-up. It started good enough, and by the time the omg-giant-pink-beams-of-doomLOVE started flying around I was completely hooked. And then it got better. Chapter 11 was all kinds of epic awesome.

TTGL comes next, and then I'll start with A's. Expectations are on an all-time high.

kamikasei

2010-07-31, 03:49 PM

I'll just leave this (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0584/moe_147153_fate_testarossa_mahou_senki_lyrical_nan oha_force_mahou_shoujo_lyrical_nanoha_thighhi) here (http://moe.imouto.org/post/show/147148).
There (http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/663396/) are (http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/697644/) more (http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/644683/) on (http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/716855/) Danbooru (with the usual warnings about other material visible there being NSFW).
Subaru's looks... virtually identical, which is kind of strange. Overall, I think Fate wins this round.

Cubey

2010-07-31, 03:50 PM

Negima:
Like Zazie said, for most of the girls (girls only, Chamo!) their dream is only a few steps away from being realized, but not for all of them. Poor Yue and Mana, they look so happy with their grandpa and boyfriend (that's him, right? It's been a while since I read the festival episodes) respectively...

And that's heartbreaking.

EDIT:

Subaru's is obviously hidden under her Barrier Jacket. The glove looks much longer now. And will she use Mach Caliber for kicking? The Huckebein could use a high-speed slice of rollerblades across their smug faces.

Prime32

2010-07-31, 03:54 PM

There (http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/663396/) are (http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/697644/) more (http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/644683/) on (http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/716855/) Danbooru (with the usual warnings about other material visible there being NSFW).
Subaru's looks... virtually identical, which is kind of strange. Overall, I think Fate wins this round.IIRC, Revolver Knuckle wasn't touched, but Mach Caliber received a minor upgrade before the Eclipse problem. The main thing is the Sword Breaker glove she's now wearing on her left hand.

kamikasei

2010-07-31, 05:24 PM

I realize Subaru's had changes, I just mean there's much less visual difference. I guess that's natural as her Device doesn't really lend itself to excessive hugeness like the others. Although Hellgirl On Skates would be an interesting direction for her. Maybe her and Teana's daughter, for the colour scheme...

Prime32

2010-07-31, 07:11 PM

As I said, Subaru is already unusually well-equipped to deal with Eclipse due to Vibration Shatter, so she might not need as much extra equipment.

Mr. Mud

2010-08-02, 10:35 PM

So, argument in the Mudpuddle; can the playground provide clarity?

Did Goku from Dragonball Z (in the Cell saga) go Super Sayian 2 before Gohan? Apparently he mentions going SSJ2 to Gohan, but tells Gohan it's not suitable for combat, because he becomes too musclebound. I'm arguing that my friend is mistaken with Ascended Super Sayian. Because I very distinctly remember Gohan going SSJ2 shocked everyone in the series.

tl;dr Did Goku go SSJ2 first?
Thanks <3 :smallbiggrin:

Tengu_temp

2010-08-02, 11:45 PM

Gohan was first. The slow, musclebound version is called Ultimate Super Saiyan, which is somewhere between SSJ1 and SSJ2 in terms of power, but has terrible speed.

I'm off to shoot myself now.

Mr. Mud

2010-08-02, 11:55 PM

Now we've moved on to arguing whether Gohan transformed first in the hyperbolic time chamber training with Goku pre-cell games, or if the real transformation happened after Cell squashed #16's head.

The Daizenshuu (DBZ published hardcover encyclopedia) say that the first time this appeared was during the fight with Cell.

Fri

2010-08-03, 08:54 AM

SAMAS

2010-08-03, 10:54 AM

Negima:
Anyone also make note of the password to get out of Zazie's (Sister's? I'm still not clear on which is which) artifact?
I think it was a nice callback to vol. 1.

Comet

2010-08-03, 11:07 AM

mallorean_thug

2010-08-04, 07:13 PM

Well, I just finished reading Ever17 all of the way through. I still have a bad ending to find, but other than that, I'm done. And man, was that a good read. I actually cared about most of the characters, certain scenes were very tense, and it also gets bonus points for having some great mysteries that were solvable (ok, maybe some negative points for questionable applications of higher level physics, but hey, they have to get their surprises from somewhere.)

As far as figuring things out, I actually knew the two routes were at different times because I played through the You route first and payed attention to dates. Then after Tsugumi's route, and thinking back the Kid's routes, I was quite sure of it. With that in mind, I caught the casual mention of cryogenic freezing and that of the Cloning Law right away, but I had no idea which characters would use which up until reveals in Coco's route. Right after you find out the two Kids are not the same, I figured our second one was somehow the real Takeshi, since we hadn't seen his sprite either. Couldn't reason much farther than that simply because Blick Winkel is simply nigh unguessable.

Missed that Pipi was a robot till near the end, because he accounted for the weird life reading numbers for Takeshi's route (again, blame Blick Winkel) I was rather disappointed that after so much technical break down, that Sora's RSD system wasn't used as part of the conspiracy in any meaningful way. And that while the time loop avoided some paradoxes, it missed one major one (where did the idea to save Takeshi and Coco come from? It came from Blick Winkel, but only after the idea had already been put in motion, and he only figured out the plan because he had already experienced it. Has to be an original cause, which is absent)

Overall, I loved it, the story was very well constructed, but now I'm sad that the other VNs in the Infinity series haven't been translated yet.

However, with that, I'm going to stop reading VNs for a little bit. Fate/Stay Night will have to wait until after classes start up. I have some "real" books to read before then, and anime that I want to watch with friends before I leave.

Attilargh

2010-08-05, 08:37 AM

Oh hey, another Nanoha F. They're sure cranking these out nowadays. I must say I'm rather impressed how very boring it manages to make Strike Cannon and Warhammer.

Maybe it's just me, but it's starting to feel like the artist isn't very good at drawing any sort of movement, so they just cheat and put in a lot of standing around talking instead. And then the translators ruin that by being terribad at it.

Or maybe I'm just being grouchy, I dunno.

Cubey

2010-08-05, 08:49 AM

Yeah, well. You'd expect some more impressive effects than what we had.

Also, ahem. The TSAB "finally" got to using physical weapons? You mean like Laevanteinn? It's not a magical damage-type sword. It friggin' kills people. If it turns out that this is the big secret behind defeating Huckebein - "Silly non-lethal magic, the real way to beat people is to use straightforward physical damage!" then I will call shanenigans on the author's knowledge of their own canon.

I probably am too harsh. If you actively look for something to annoy you in every new chapter, you are bound to find something after all. So instead let's talk about something I found awesome.

...

Yeah, I got nothing.

Prime32

2010-08-05, 09:31 AM

What's a "5th Generation Terminal"? :smallconfused:

And lol, Erio is taller than Subaru now.

Also, ahem. The TSAB "finally" got to using physical weapons? You mean like Laevanteinn? It's not a magical damage-type sword. It friggin' kills people. If it turns out that this is the big secret behind defeating Huckebein - "Silly non-lethal magic, the real way to beat people is to use straightforward physical damage!" then I will call shanenigans on the author's knowledge of their own canon.I was under the impression that the AEC weapons worked like arcane fire (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/prestigeClasses/archmage.htm)/spellfire, firing massive quantities of unshaped magical energy (with Eclipse negating spells by destroying their structure).

Cubey

2010-08-05, 09:35 AM

Well, Subaru is a cyborg, so she doesn't grow or get physically older as time passes.

Yes, I do realize that cyborgs receive special curation that makes them age. But I assume that's only until puberty or something like that - everyone aged 15 to, let's say, 50, looks the same age in Nanoha anyway. Some characters seem more mature in Force, but I chalk that up to artstyle change.

EDIT:
As for the weapons - someone should just grab a piece of 2x4 and smash the bad guys' faces in. Dispel that.

Prime32

2010-08-05, 09:37 AM

Well, Subaru is a cyborg, so she doesn't grow or get physically older as time passes.

Yes, I do realize that cyborgs receive special curation that makes them age. But I assume that's only until puberty or something like that - everyone aged 15 to, let's say, 50, looks the same age in Nanoha anyway. Some characters seem more mature in Force, but I chalk that up to artstyle change.I heard that in Sound Stage X Subaru stops getting aging treatments so that she can look the same next time a comatose character wakes up.

I still want to know what this "5th Generation Terminal" is that can apparently fight Eclipse. Did that Huckebein girl remind anyone else of Irui?

Cubey

2010-08-05, 09:46 AM

I heard that in Sound Stage X Subaru stops getting aging treatments so that she can look the same next time a comatose character wakes up.
Makes sense to me, and I actually know what you are talking about. Although like I said earlier - not much a difference between a 15 year old and a 20 year old in Nanoha. Or a 35 year old for that matter.

Wonder how much time it will take.
12 000 years later: "Welcome home!"

Yeah, I said that just to make a lame Gunbuster joke.

I still want to know what this "5th Generation Terminal" is that can apparently fight Eclipse.
Probably some asspull. Asspull problem, asspull solution. I hope it will be handled gracefully, but hope is all I have here.

Did that Huckebein girl remind anyone else of Irui?
Irui acts kinda shyier, but I didn't really give her a lot of attention. I was mostly being sceptical - "Oh, they bring in a little girl to score sympathy points in the lolicon crowd, and distract us from the fact Huckebein kill people for a living".

Yeah, I am getting too paranoid about this series. Chill out Cubey.

NeonBlack

2010-08-06, 04:19 AM

New Negima.

Negi to start befriending Fate Nanoha-style in 3, 2, 1...

Dispozition

2010-08-06, 05:11 AM

New Negima.

Negi to start befriending Fate Nanoha-style in 3, 2, 1...

Well, we already knew that was going to happen.

Tengu_temp

2010-08-06, 05:38 AM

Indeed. Not the first time we see that Negi's very determined to
*sunglasses*

fight fate.

YEEEEEAAAAAHHHH

Cubey

2010-08-06, 07:01 AM

Prime32

2010-08-06, 07:23 AM

Cubey

2010-08-06, 08:07 AM

That's a reasonable explanation, and it only reinforces my opinion that the best way to deal with these guys would be to use a normal weapon like a basic, everyday sword. Or even a piece of lead pipe or a club with nails in it. Anything will do.
http://ui14.gamespot.com/1901/hititcrowbar_2.jpg

kamikasei

2010-08-06, 08:24 AM

Nerd-o-rama

2010-08-06, 01:09 PM

Also, on the "why didn't Levantine work" thing.

The AEC armaments don't turn into small crystals for storage. Whenever we see a Device being repaired, it's in its Standby Form. Thus, we can guess that the weapon form of Levantine is essentially a Barrier Jacket generated by its true physical form (the sword-shaped pendant), and as such can be broken down by Eclipse.

That's completely the opposite of what I'd assumed, and yet it makes complete sense.

Also: "Levantine" means "from here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levant)". Laevatein (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laevatein) is a sword. This is one case where I support the official localization in Nanoha. ("Arthra" can still go to hell).

Atelm

2010-08-06, 02:23 PM

Just watched the first OVA (out of six) of Broken Blade (or Break Blade, the Engrish title). Liked it, and it looks promising although I'm not usually one to watch mecha series.

Terraoblivion

2010-08-06, 05:17 PM

Shouldn't it be Tengu having that line, Cubey? But, yes, Chisame once again proves just how awesome she is. Her ramblings are just so entertaining and easy for me to identify with.

Starfols

2010-08-06, 08:48 PM

Did anyone else catch the first episode of Cat **** One?

I thought it was pretty good, even if it didn't have much content besides badassery and nice graphics. And rabbits that look extremely huggable even when they are doing grim deeds on the field of battle.
Has anyone read the manga? I understand it's set in a different time period, but it could still offer hints as to what kind of story they're trying to tell with the animation. It'd be pretty boring if every episode was just about the rabbits storming a new zone and kicking butt.
At least this series seems to offer a bit of something new and different, which I always like. Looking forward to episode 2 to see if they can go anywhere from here.

This show was weird. I laughed for the beginning of it, and through the action scenes, and I still can't take it completely seriously. It makes me wonder who thought this was a good idea.

Comparisons to Maus were drawn, and it certainly takes itself about as seriously as Maus. On the other hand, Maus didn't have bombastic fight scenes. :smallannoyed: Fortunately, the image of cuddly bunny rabbits with their cute widdle tails etc., performing homicide is an absurd image, rather than an abhorrent one, at least for me. One doesn't see the rabbits as less cute because of it.

I'd say watch it with friends. Between the extremely silly premise and the long fight scenes without dialogue, this show is practically made to have 'do a barrel roll!' etc. shouted over it. :smallbiggrin:

Attilargh

2010-08-07, 02:37 AM

CS1 is porn for /k/ommandos and 3D animation nerds. And that's about it. The only substance to it are the painstakingly-animated bunny operators operating like professionals instead of action movie heroes.

Just watched the first OVA (out of six) of Broken Blade (or Break Blade, the Engrish title). Liked it, and it looks promising although I'm not usually one to watch mecha series.
Broken Blade was, well, alright. Painfully so. It doesn't do anything wrong, but really the only exceptional thing about it was the scenery. That's the wrong part to get right in a mecha series.

I personally didn't find the mecha design particularly exciting and the pneumatic weapons felt downright anemic. Jesus flailing into the cockpit and not actually mastering it on the first try was a refreshing twist, but not exactly good for the action, either.

So it was basically just oggling at scenery and listening to famous actors read lines from a manga I've already read. But hey, at least it's got Marina Inoue, Minoru Shiraishi and that guy who voiced Shamisen the cat as the ambiguously good good guy squad.

...And then it's got Hiroshi Kamiya as the ambiguously bad childhood friend antagonist. His voice is pretty sweet, but to be honest, I'm starting to get sick of hearing it everywhere.

Oh, and the Broken Blade manga is alright, but the only translation online is terribad. Not Nanoha F "man, this sure is clunky" bad, but actual bona fide "what the hell were they thinking?" awful. Oh well, at least half of the next episode will be new.

Cubey

2010-08-07, 03:44 AM

Jesus flailing into the cockpit and not actually mastering it on the first try was a refreshing twist, but not exactly good for the action, either.

You mean like in the original Macross?

Jokes aside, how do the robots look like? Yes, I am a total Ryusei, why do you ask?

Attilargh

2010-08-07, 12:22 PM

Not yet started original Macross. Lost my interest in Victory and don't want to pick up another old, stupidly long real robot franchise before I'm done with Gundam. Should pick it back up now that I have a couple of weeks free.

Anyhow, here (http://www.toyark.com/news/robot-and-mecha-toy-news-57/new-photos-of-kotobukiyas-broken-blade-golem-and-eltemus-2884/) are images of the mook suits. The yellow one is the bad guy suit that sorta flies. It's not actually half bad-looking. And here (http://www.figures.com/forums/news/10188-broken-blade-delphine-fine-model-kit.html) you can see Kira's new ride.

Mando Knight

2010-08-07, 07:44 PM

Negima:
http://aspergers.dasaku.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/madarame.jpg

Embrace your nerd-dom, Chisame. Admit you live a happy life as a hardcore, semi-misanthropic otaku. Look deep into your soul, you know it to be true!
I lol'ed.

Also, actually spoiler-riffic:
I like the last bit:
Not-Zazie: In nine and a half years, this world DIES!
Chisame: ONOES! I thought it was half a century!
Negi: Nine years? Phew! That's plenty of time!

Everyone else: SAYWUT?!

Closet_Skeleton

2010-08-09, 07:24 AM

Apparently, there was a surprisingly good British Macekre of the first few episodes of Urusei Yatsura. Its on youtube but I have no idea when it was made.

CarpeGuitarrem

2010-08-10, 11:58 AM

By the way, folks, not that anyone was keeping track...

...but on August 10, 2010, the Holy Britannian Empire invaded Japan.

Cheers! Oh, and...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vgCet6K8_4

Nerd-o-rama

2010-08-10, 04:40 PM

By the way, folks, not that anyone was keeping track...

...but on August 10, 2010, the Holy Britannian Empire invaded Japan.

Cheers! Oh, and...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vgCet6K8_4

Different calendar system, but still, neat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKlzoGP2m0w

CarpeGuitarrem

2010-08-10, 07:15 PM

Different calendar system, but still, neat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKlzoGP2m0w
Yeah, I'd heard that. I figure, you only live through August 10, 2010 once, so make the most of it. :smallwink:

All Hail Britannia is possibly the most epic fascist anthem out there. Lol. Though there aren't that many fascist anthems...still.

Silver Coin

2010-08-10, 09:45 PM

To think that it's fictional too.

_Zoot_

2010-08-12, 05:33 AM

Ants apparently like anime...

Yeah, you read that right. I just found a whole group of ants inside my Ghost in the Shell: Second Gig case... That's odd because not only is there nothing to eat in there but there is nothing to eat in my room, I do keep it cleaner than that. I am really weirded out right now.

That was not a problem that I was expecting to have to deal with when I started to watch anime... I just wanted to tell you guys so that if this is part of some ant conspiracy you will be ready.

Dispozition

2010-08-12, 05:47 AM

_Zoot_

2010-08-13, 12:28 AM

Well, I just finished the anime of Fullmetal Alchemist. I really liked it, thought I felt that was a bit rushed in the last few episodes.

Anyway, I wanted to ask what Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood is about, is it just a second series or is it some different take on the first one?

Cubey

2010-08-13, 12:38 AM

It's a different take, this time following the manga series more closely as the first show diverged at some point. However, Brotherhood was created in a way to be enjoyable by people who watched the first series (and as a side result, those who did not may be a bit confused). To be more precise: the first episodes, before the divergence point, are kinda rushed so that they get to new material quickly, and fan favorite characters make more frequent appearances.

So by all means, watch Brotherhood.

Atelm

2010-08-14, 07:02 AM

NeonBlack

2010-08-14, 08:28 AM

Finished all seven films of Kara no Kyoukai.

The series itself was alright, however....

I find it truly a heavy case of morals dissonance for Skiki to be basically pardoned for the serial killings she committed, just because too-dumb-to-live-designated-hero had a thing for her, while the crimes and murders committed by all other people were basically unforgivable. :smallsigh:

Eh, I thought (and TvTropes seems to agree with me) that

it was Lio who committed all those murders in the first place, and that the only human (well, mostly) person killed by Shiki in the whole series was Lio himself :smallconfused:. Otherwise the whole impact of that killing and the whole "you can only murder once" thing kind of lose their meaning.

Finished this last week, by the way. One of the most visually beautiful animes I've seen, planning a re-watch soon to catch all the neat continuity nods and references sprinkled throughout.

Prime32

2010-08-14, 08:34 AM

Finished this last week, by the way. One of the most visually beautiful animes I've seen, planning a re-watch soon to catch all the neat continuity nods and references sprinkled throughout.lol at Len plushies.

Atelm

2010-08-14, 11:33 AM

Eh, I thought (and TvTropes seems to agree with me) that

it was Lio who committed all those murders in the first place, and that the only human (well, mostly) person killed by Shiki in the whole series was Lio himself :smallconfused:. Otherwise the whole impact of that killing and the whole "you can only murder once" thing kind of lose their meaning.

They seem to indicate that, still

It doesn't make a lot of sense for a few reasons;

1) Shiki herself says that she is a murderer, and there doesn't seem to be any indication that she has been tricked into believing so. And the memory God's Word returns to Shiki in the sixth film doesn't seem to contradict this either.

2) How Lio thought this of her and actually states that he emulated her. Lio himself actually talks to Shiki about the killings in one of the earlier films (the second one, I believe) and states that she's overdoing it. (granted Lio himself is all kinds of crazy, so not the most reliable source either)

3) The corpses from the first serial-killing were not devoured, the later victims (which were definitely killed by Lio) were.

NeonBlack

2010-08-14, 11:50 AM

They seem to indicate that, still

It doesn't make a lot of sense for a few reasons;

1) Shiki herself says that she is a murderer, and there doesn't seem to be any indication that she has been tricked into believing so. And the memory God's Word returns to Shiki in the sixth film doesn't seem to contradict this either.

2) How Lio thought this of her and actually states that he emulated her. Lio himself actually talks to Shiki about the killings in one of the earlier films (the second one, I believe) and states that she's overdoing it. (granted Lio himself is all kinds of crazy, so not the most reliable source either)

3) The corpses from the first serial-killing were not devoured, the later victims (which were definitely killed by Lio) were.

1) I can't recall the exact scene, but I think I remember her telling this to Kokutou, in an effort to drive him away from her. It fails, of course, leading to the whole "I wan't to kill you but I can't" scene. Could be true, could be a lie to scare Kokutou away. I'm leaning towards the latter.

2) Yeah, Lio isn't exactly a reliable source. Yet his diary, found and read by Kokutou in the last movie, indicates that he was killing people around 95-96 ("Today I hit someone for the first time. Today I killed someone for the first time". The actual lines may be different, I'm going by memory and by the Spanish fansub). Either both him and Shiki were killing concurrently, or only he was. Him telling that to Shiki could be just another one of his attempts at "unleashing" the dormant killer inside her. He even talks to Kokutou later (that silent scene inside a cafeteria, in both the 2nd and 7th films) trying to convince him that Shiki is the real killer, just to remove him from the picture and thus allowing Shiki to run wild. Lio wants Shiki to kill.

3) Lio started devouring corpses when Araya awoke his "origin". This happened after the first killings, but before or right at the start of the second ones, IIRC. The timeline becomes a bit confusing at times.

Prime32

2010-08-14, 12:27 PM

It's possible that they were making a distinction between "killing" and "murdering". :smallconfused:

NeonBlack

2010-08-14, 08:41 PM

It's possible that they were making a distinction between "killing" and "murdering". :smallconfused:

Yeah, or possibly between Shiki and SHIKI. I think I may hunt down the novels' translations and check if this is any clearer in the original source. Some of these apparent contradictions could be resolved if there's a single sentence that didn't make it into the anime for any reason.

Although knowing Nasu, that sentence would appear in three or four slightly different forms that carry the exact same meaning inside a single paragraph :smalltongue:.

Zabel_Zarock

2010-08-15, 03:57 AM

Hey question about Kara no Kyoukai, I've been playing allot of Melty Blood Actress Again lately because a good amount of the BlazBlue players play it to quite seriously. I wanna watch Kara no Kyoukai, anything I should watch or read before hand? I don't really know anything about the Melty Blood storyline wise or F/S Nite.

Attilargh

2010-08-15, 04:07 AM

Kara no Kyoukai's apparently a continuity mostly separate from the rest of the Nasuverse, so you can pretty much jump straight in.

If you're wondering, Ryougi's in AA because of negative dimension wedgies, or something.

VanBuren

2010-08-15, 04:56 AM

I think goku know how to do SSJ2 in theory. I just assumed that from how in the hyperbolic time chamber the only training that he did with Gohan was just to be in the SSJ mode for the whole time. I assumed that it's a preparation for SSJ2. Because if not, what's the point of that?

but yes, SSJ2 happened first time in cell game, and the only training that goku and gohan did in the time chamber is just to stay in SSJ mode as long as possible and make it their default mode or something.

Dragonball comic isn't bad mind you. I still think of it as one of the best action/fighting manga ever. It's the anime that's ridiculous.

You've got the right of it. Goku's theory was that they were all wasting so much energy in their SSJ forms, so the best way to train was to up their endurance in those forms and put some finesse on the energy consumption. The end-result is that SSJ basically becomes their "base" form, and they don't waste any extra energy.

SSJ also awakens the user's more aggressive traits and gives to wilder bursts of emotion. The training also desensitizes that effect, so Goku and Gohan could keep a level head while fighting in that state.

Zabel_Zarock

2010-08-15, 04:42 PM

If you're wondering, Ryougi's in AA because of negative dimension wedgies, or something.
Yeah I was kind of wondering. Ryougi's pretty thug in MBAA/CC though it sucks H-Ryougi lost her Cr. B loops in CC.

Prime32

2010-08-15, 05:23 PM

Don't forget that Ryougi is also in Fate/Extra for some reason. She and Archer are contestants for the Nasuverse equivalent of Wolverine (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WolverinePublicity).
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100726093742/typemoon/images/8/83/RyougiShikiExtra.jpghttp://i50.tinypic.com/jg2nva.jpg

And then Battle Moon Wars has the whole witchalok thing. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MyAcEbHa-s)*

*You die twice.

CarpeGuitarrem

2010-08-17, 02:09 PM

On the manga side of things, I've now read the first 5 volumes of Mushi-shi. There's a lot I really like about it, particularly how the episode formula comes together. It's quite beautifully-drawn, and I really like the various types of stories that get to be told. It really makes good use of an episodic format.

Cubey

2010-08-17, 02:12 PM

How is it compared to anime? I never heard of the Mushi-shi manga, truth to be told. But Wikipedia says it came first, and 6 years earlier in fact. Hmm.

CarpeGuitarrem

2010-08-17, 04:09 PM

Haven't seen the anime, though I plan to do so pretty soon. The art is quite well-drawn, including some pages done up as black-and-white watercolor. There's also obviously more stories, I think...each volume has 4 different stories in it.

Starfols

2010-08-17, 09:45 PM

Mushi-shi is pretty great. I loved the creativity of all the monsters, and moreso the way Ginko solved the problems they were making. The backgrounds were nice to look at, probably some of the best I've seen. I feel pretty tranquil when watching it.
The only complaint I have about the art is that most of the side characters look the same. I know it's supposed to be in the past, and close together villages with not that much genetic variety, but it sometimes feels like the same guy is stalking Ginko, getting into trouble to be saved from. Is it like that in the manga?

CarpeGuitarrem

2010-08-17, 10:55 PM

Cubey

2010-08-18, 03:22 AM

Simple, stylized character design + realistic clothing and hair colors (except Ginko obviously) = everyone looks the friggin' same. Simple as that.

CarpeGuitarrem

2010-08-18, 11:09 AM

CarpeGuitarrem

2010-08-18, 11:54 PM

I just finished Trigun. Ladies and gentlemen, in my humble opinion, that is how shounen ought to be done. It's the only shounen that I've seen so far that manages to be interesting and not silly, that has a reason and place for its action, that stayed well within the confines of its genre. (Though I really like FMA, I think it does a bit of bending the bounds of shounen, what with the dark depths it takes the alchemy to).

Starfols

2010-08-19, 02:14 AM

Generally speaking, I think the greatest diversity is in the hairstyles. They're all realistic hairstyles, but they do manage to be reasonably differentiated. And I'm not sure if the anime did this, but the manga-ka uses different patterns overlaid on characters' clothing.
Yeah, in the anime, there's really not much variation. They sometimes have a mustache or a headband, but the same three or four hairstyles and faces are repeated throughout, despite a smattering of unique characters here and there. They're in different scenarios all the time though, and have different outfits. It reminds me of Ford Cruller.

Regardless, Ginko is pretty unique looking (even among anime characters), and is a great character to boot. He's the only character to show up in every episode, so the repetition doesn't detract from the story much.

I just finished Trigun. Ladies and gentlemen, in my humble opinion, that is how shounen ought to be done. It's the only shounen that I've seen so far that manages to be interesting and not silly, that has a reason and place for its action, that stayed well within the confines of its genre. (Though I really like FMA, I think it does a bit of bending the bounds of shounen, what with the dark depths it takes the alchemy to).

I've only seen a smidge of Trigun, but it looked pretty good. It's the same in-between shounen and seinen area shows like Cowboy Bebop and Ghost in the Shell are. It looked promising, but I don't know if I'd wanna watch 26 episodes of it. Should I?

0Megabyte

2010-08-19, 02:46 AM

Yes, Starfols, yes you do. :smallbiggrin:

It's very good.

mallorean_thug

2010-08-19, 09:46 AM

Well, Trigun and Full Metal Alchemist are the only shonen shows I find to be at all watchable, if that tells you anything. Mostly what Trigun is good at is walking a middle path between ridiculous and believable, between dramatic and hilarious, and between episodic and arc based. It somehow manages to represent most of the good things I love about anime, without really falling into any of the traps. And Vash's moral values completely change enemy encounters away from the way they typically happen in other shows.

All part of why I think that, at the very least, Trigun is one of the better gateway anime out there. For somebody thats been around for a while, I'm not sure it has as much to offer, but it is still very fun and funny to watch.

kamikasei

2010-08-19, 09:59 AM

Trigun was one of the first anime I watched. Had not quite all the first season and watched it a couple of times with friends, reaching a point where certain plot developments kicked in and the tone shifted quite a bit, so when one of those friends got the box set we marathoned the entire thing in one go. I remember it as being very good, but I was also afflicted with the sleep madness at the time, so I can't make any guarantees others would enjoy it as much as I did.

The reason I mention this though is that if you've only seen a bit of the show it should be flagged to you that the real story arc only kicks in about halfway through and the show changes a lot in the latter half from the more meandering worldbuilding and character exposition in the first half (not that the first half isn't good, but the second is a stronger story).

CarpeGuitarrem

2010-08-19, 11:26 AM

Yeah, in the anime, there's really not much variation. They sometimes have a mustache or a headband, but the same three or four hairstyles and faces are repeated throughout, despite a smattering of unique characters here and there. They're in different scenarios all the time though, and have different outfits. It reminds me of Ford Cruller.

Regardless, Ginko is pretty unique looking (even among anime characters), and is a great character to boot. He's the only character to show up in every episode, so the repetition doesn't detract from the story much.
Hahaha yeah. And that's very true. Probably why I didn't mind it, even if there was repetition. It is, after all, Ginko's story.

I've only seen a smidge of Trigun, but it looked pretty good. It's the same in-between shounen and seinen area shows like Cowboy Bebop and Ghost in the Shell are. It looked promising, but I don't know if I'd wanna watch 26 episodes of it. Should I?
In my opinion, Trigun is a lot more shounen than seinen. But it's well-done shounen.

Well, Trigun and Full Metal Alchemist are the only shonen shows I find to be at all watchable, if that tells you anything. Mostly what Trigun is good at is walking a middle path between ridiculous and believable, between dramatic and hilarious, and between episodic and arc based. It somehow manages to represent most of the good things I love about anime, without really falling into any of the traps. And Vash's moral values completely change enemy encounters away from the way they typically happen in other shows.

All part of why I think that, at the very least, Trigun is one of the better gateway anime out there. For somebody thats been around for a while, I'm not sure it has as much to offer, but it is still very fun and funny to watch.
Truly put. That's a good sum-up of Trigun, and Vash's morality was particularly something that made it stand out for me. I see Trigun almost as a subversion of the action hero genre, to great effect.

Trigun was one of the first anime I watched. Had not quite all the first season and watched it a couple of times with friends, reaching a point where certain plot developments kicked in and the tone shifted quite a bit, so when one of those friends got the box set we marathoned the entire thing in one go. I remember it as being very good, but I was also afflicted with the sleep madness at the time, so I can't make any guarantees others would enjoy it as much as I did.

The reason I mention this though is that if you've only seen a bit of the show it should be flagged to you that the real story arc only kicks in about halfway through and the show changes a lot in the latter half from the more meandering worldbuilding and character exposition in the first half (not that the first half isn't good, but the second is a stronger story).
Good warning. The first half is a rollicking good time, and the second half is where things kick into huge gear. Scars and all.

Tengu_temp

2010-08-19, 11:53 AM

I've only seen a smidge of Trigun, but it looked pretty good. It's the same in-between shounen and seinen area shows like Cowboy Bebop and Ghost in the Shell are. It looked promising, but I don't know if I'd wanna watch 26 episodes of it. Should I?

Just what exactly is shonen about GitS or Bebop? They are the archetypical seinen shows if you ask me. A better example of a show that is somewhere in between is probably Suzumiya Haruhi.

Well, Trigun and Full Metal Alchemist are the only shonen shows I find to be at all watchable, if that tells you anything.

Are you sure? There's a lot of shows that people don't realize are shonen out there. Azumanga Daioh, for example. Pretty much every mecha show other than Gunbuster/Diebuster is shonen too.

Prime32

2010-08-19, 12:53 PM

mallorean_thug

2010-08-19, 06:54 PM

Are you sure? There's a lot of shows that people don't realize are shonen out there. Azumanga Daioh, for example. Pretty much every mecha show other than Gunbuster/Diebuster is shonen too.

Also shonen: Slayers.

Some listings
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Shonen
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Seinen

Aaaaand from among the shows that I've seen, which does not include Azumanga Daioh or Slayers as of yet, I'll still have to stand by that statement, except to add Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann to that short list. So yes, I am quite sure. Friends have tried to get me to watch some of the other shows on that list, or I have suffered through a couple of them, but I've found most of them to not be enjoyable. They could be good shows, but I've found it to generally be counterproductive to watch shows that don't cater to my demographic.

That said, I still need to get around to watching GitS:SAC, but school starts up next week so . . . I'll watch it eventually.

Cubey

2010-08-20, 04:42 AM

Whomever wrote that article was rather... ignorant.

Claymore - Although it seems to be aimed at girls more than at boys, since it features an almost all-female cast of characters.

All-female cast does not mean female-oriented. It means fanservice. Although Claymore has not a lot of the conventional variety, seeing strong women kick ass is fanservice too.

Tengu_temp

2010-08-20, 04:58 AM

The other list's no better. Big O, Code Geass and Excel Saga are seinen? Seriously?

Drascin

2010-08-20, 05:04 AM

The other list's no better. Big O, Code Geass and Excel Saga are seinen? Seriously?

Well, I dunno, I probably would put Excel Saga in Seinen myself - it sure doesn't seem aimed to the young boy demographic...

Code Geass is easily shonen, though - and I haven't seen the Big O, so can't comment there.

Tengu_temp

2010-08-20, 05:08 AM

I'd say that Excel Saga's hyperactive sense of humour is fitting for shonen. It's filled to the brim with references, but so is Lucky Star.

Big O is Batman TAS with mecha, mixed with some Evangelion. Very stylish shonen, but shonen nevertheless.

CarpeGuitarrem

2010-08-20, 11:15 AM

Code Geass is easily shonen, though - and I haven't seen the Big O, so can't comment there.
Eh.......maybe. That one I'd call a line-straddler between shounen and seinen. The Shinjuku Ghetto sequence in Episode 1 and Murder Princess Euphemia come to mind as distinctly un-shounen elements.

kamikasei

2010-08-20, 11:20 AM

What's the definition being used for shounen here? I wouldn't have thought that dark themes sufficed to disqualify a work.

CarpeGuitarrem

2010-08-20, 11:23 AM

Beyond "marketed to adolescents", I don't admittedly have a defined one. But it certainly doesn't feel shounen to have widescale slaughter of innocents, when the hero is incapable of doing anything, or in fact to have a series where there are almost no "heroic" characters whatsoever. Morally ambiguous protagonists seem to be more of a seinen hallmark. (I'm not saying it's bad, but I don't think it quite fits the shounen mold)

Cubey

2010-08-20, 11:24 AM

Japan have a different take on what constitutes a kids/teen show than US and European countries. Which is a fancy way of saying "They don't mind violence in kids' cartoons that much".

Prime32

2010-08-20, 12:04 PM

Whereas sometimes the definition of shonen seems to be "published in Shonen Jump", which includes things like Death Note.

CarpeGuitarrem

2010-08-20, 12:15 PM

Japan have a different take on what constitutes a kids/teen show than US and European countries. Which is a fancy way of saying "They don't mind violence in kids' cartoons that much".
Right, but usually such violence is more in the line of John Woo's "heroic bloodshed" than the examples I gave.

Terraoblivion

2010-08-20, 12:46 PM

Eh, Gundam is shounen as well and that features a casual disregard for human life to say the least. While hammering in that killing in such ways is wrong.

And Code Geass has a lot of clearly shounen traits, just starting with the fact that the main characters are teenage boys. Of course that is not a sufficient condition for something being shounen, but it is a trait that pretty much all shounen shares, while it is much rarer in seinen. Also the violence is not that visually brutal, it is nowhere near gorn, it is brutal for what it represents and horrible acts by human beings is not exactly uncommon in shounen. Same reasons that Death Note is very clearly shounen, really. Just because it is aimed at younger people doesn't mean that it can't try to have a complex plot, though it is arguable how well Code Geass succeeds.

Prime32

2010-08-20, 12:49 PM

Eh, Gundam is shounen as well and that features a casual disregard for human life to say the least. While hammering in that killing in such ways is wrong.I thought Gundam was usually regarded as seinen, with the possible exception of G Gundam. Not that they don't try to appeal to the shonen crowd with such wonders as PINK EXPLOSIONS IN SPACE.

Tengu_temp

2010-08-20, 01:08 PM

You thought wrong. Pretty much the only seinen real robot show I can think of is 08th MS Team. Funnily enough, super robot shows have more seinen than real robot ones, since some of them (like Diebuster or Godannar) are aimed at nostalgic fanboys, and some others are vicious deconstructions (like Bokurano, though Eva is still shonen).

EDIT: Macross Plus is seinen too, but that's an OVA.

kamikasei

2010-08-20, 01:11 PM

Yeah, I'm getting the impression a lot of people "promote" things from shounen to seinen due to distorted views of a) what kids can handle and b) what Japanese creators think kids can handle (and c) less charitably, in some cases though I'm not accusing anyone here of it, in an attempt to shield the things they like from the stigma of childishness). Evangelion was shounen, for the love of Tang.

Terraoblivion

2010-08-20, 01:15 PM

08th MS team is an ova too, Tengu.

But yes, pretty much all mecha shows are either shounen, vicious mocking of mecha shows or fanservice for 20-something fanboys.

Tengu_temp

2010-08-20, 01:28 PM

08th MS team is an ova too, Tengu.

Yeah, I know. They wouldn't be able to show uncensored boobs on Japanese TV, especially underage ones.

Terraoblivion

2010-08-20, 01:37 PM

How old is Kiki anyway? I mean i don't think it is ever said, but i have a hard time telling. She doesn't seem that much younger than Michel at least, but that's still rather unspecific.

Tengu_temp

2010-08-20, 01:46 PM

Michel looks like a kid, so... 14? 15?

Nerd-o-rama

2010-08-20, 02:20 PM

The only thing I'm wondering in this argument is how Gunbuster isn't shonen. I guess it's the same deal as 08th MS Team and gets promoted for being an OVA and therefore allowed to show naked women.

Drascin

2010-08-20, 02:46 PM

Evangelion was shounen, for the love of Tang.

Indeed. They let young kids grow with stuff like Eva, and then they wonder why they turn out all screwed up, too :smalltongue:.

Attilargh

2010-08-20, 04:00 PM

How old is Kiki anyway? I mean i don't think it is ever said, but i have a hard time telling. She doesn't seem that much younger than Michel at least, but that's still rather unspecific.
Seventeen, according to the apparently-official English site (http://www.gundamofficial.com/worlds/uc/ms08/characters/chara_kiki.html). Michael's eighteen.

Terraoblivion

2010-08-20, 04:03 PM

In that case it is only in parts of the US she is underage. Still, it was showing naked breasts with nipples. Only ovas can get away with that.

Tengu_temp

2010-08-20, 04:33 PM

The only thing I'm wondering in this argument is how Gunbuster isn't shonen. I guess it's the same deal as 08th MS Team and gets promoted for being an OVA and therefore allowed to show naked women.

I think that's because Gunbuster is the earliest example of a mecha show for nostalgic fanboys. Except that they're nostalgic for all the stuff from the seventies, because they were there when it came out.

Nerd-o-rama

2010-08-21, 12:23 PM

I think that's because Gunbuster is the earliest example of a mecha show for nostalgic fanboys. Except that they're nostalgic for all the stuff from the seventies, because they were there when it came out.

It still has an extremely standard shonen coming-of-age-angst plot. Plenty of Getter references though, yeah.

NeonBlack

2010-08-22, 05:21 PM

New Negima, at friggin' last.

And Mana turns the badass meter up to eleven seventy-four. Man, I hope her battle isn't lost in the incoming miriad of parallel mook fights and gets some focus, that last page shows lots of promise.

Cubey

2010-08-22, 05:53 PM

World.... domination...

kamikasei

2010-08-22, 05:57 PM

Terraoblivion

2010-08-22, 05:58 PM

Negima
Damn you Mana. Stop raising the bar for everyone else! I mean how can whatever Kaede, Setsuna, Negi and the non-combatants and weaker combatants do measure up to the amount of badass here?

Also it would just be wrong to prove 90s kid right on anything. Guns must not be the best superpower ever! Even if they hold special ammunition from Chao and are supported by a greater obsession with landmines than even Sousuke in Fumoffu has.

And Kami, it might still be. I at least would be really embarrassed if my idea of true happiness was to be a little kid and i would probably have been even more so when i was 14. Embarrassment can come from non-perverted things too, after all.

Also Paru and Chisame cool as expected and Makie as dumb as expected, but those two things shouldn't need a spoiler.

Tengu_temp

2010-08-23, 04:33 AM

I don't think if Mana's going to overshadow the rest of the cast now. If anything, she got an upgrade in order to catch up.

Is it just me, or do all female demons have dark skin and light hair?

Zabel_Zarock

2010-08-24, 08:08 PM

SRW L cast list annouced

Evangelion (movie)
Fight! Iczer One
Iczer Reborn
Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz
Gundam SEED
Gundam SEED Destiny
Combattler V
Voltes V
Gaiking: Legend of Daiku-Maryu
Kotetsushin Jeeg
Dancougar Nova
Mazinkaiser
Mazinkaiser vs Great General of Darkness
Godannar
Godannar Second Season
Macross Frontier
Linebarrels of Iron

Neko Toast

2010-08-24, 08:28 PM

Satoshi Kon passed away (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-08-24/award-winning-director-satoshi-kon-passes-away).

This saddens me. He made really wonderful films. :smallfrown:

Haruki-kun

2010-08-24, 09:33 PM

Neko Toast

2010-08-24, 09:39 PM

This made me rather sad when I found out... and I haven't even seen Paprika yet. :smallfrown:

I'm going out tomorrow and buying that and Perfect Blue, because so far the only one I own is Millennium Actress. I wanna show these movies back to back with some friends when I go back to college. There's a possibility that we'll all completely lose our minds afterward, though. All three of those movies question your perception of the film's reality.

Haruki-kun

2010-08-24, 09:47 PM

I'm going out tomorrow and buying that and Perfect Blue, because so far the only one I own is Millennium Actress. I wanna show these movies back to back with some friends when I go back to college. There's a possibility that we'll all completely lose our minds afterward, though. All three of those movies question your perception of the film's reality.

Well, that's the best kind of movies! :smalltongue:

Seriously, though, I plan on getting it, but finding them in Mexico is pretty tough. I usually have to wait for a trip to the US or something like that....

0Megabyte

2010-08-25, 01:46 PM

I was looking forward to seeing the films he made for years to come.

Ahh, well. Life makes fools of us all. I wish his family and friends well. It's a shame to die so young. He was only 48.

Rogue 7

2010-08-26, 01:29 AM

Poyo.
Actually I'm a little disappointed that apparently Setsuna's dream really was naked Konoka. I was more amused by the idea that hers was innocent childhood play and it was Konoka who was happiest sexily teasing her.

I think the technical term is "sexual repression".

and Poyo is beginning to irritate me slightly for just stubbornly denying it. I mean, come on, crazy lady. You've seen this kid do things at the age of 10 that no one in either world has ever done, including the 700-year old demon vampire who everyone is scared of, and know he took on Jack friggin' Rakan. I think he's earned a bit of faith here.

So, One Piece:

Taking a 2-year timeskip? Interesting.
...Jesus, if this timeskip is where Naruto's was, relative to the series' completion....Oda may not live to write it all out.

hanzo66

2010-08-26, 10:10 PM

Well for One Piece
It did seem that the characters are each taking their time to take more levels in Badass (not that they need it, but it doesn't hurt to go dig up more Secret Potential). The results will be interesting to see.

mallorean_thug

2010-08-27, 11:14 PM

Satoshi Kon passed away (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-08-24/award-winning-director-satoshi-kon-passes-away).

This saddens me. He made really wonderful films. :smallfrown:

Anybody else who cares about him and his work should also read his last words (http://www.makikoitoh.com/journal/satoshi-kons-last-words) They're quite touching and I found myself groping around for the tissue box about 2/3rds of the way through.

I personally found the entirety of his work as a director to be unequivocally brilliant and can honestly say that the anime world has really lost somebody special.

Dispozition

2010-08-28, 12:11 AM

I personally found the entirety of his work as a director to be unequivocally brilliant and can honestly say that the anime world has really lost somebody special.

While I've only seen Paprika (and just bought it on BD) I cannot agree more. He was one of those directors that didn't get anywhere near as much attention as he should have for the amazing work he did.

Makensha

2010-08-28, 10:50 AM

A long time ago I read a great deal of Fullmetal Alchemist (Manga), and I was hoping to pick up on the Anime where I left off. I'm hoping that they are similar enough that I can do this, but I also have no idea where in the Anime I would be. I was at the part where

They were in a snowy area. A large villain guy was making a giant circle tunnel around the entire land. He tunneled into a military base and was captured (?). The villain troop was searching for a new Lust. Greed had been replaced by somebody who had been searching for immortality

Anybody know at which point I should start in the Anime?

Atelm

2010-08-28, 10:52 AM

That would be around ep 34-35 in FMA Brotherhood.

Tengu_temp

2010-08-28, 11:19 AM

Hey look, Hiimdaisy Persona 4 dub part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qR_LM4nQ7w). This time with a real girl voicing Yukiko.

Attilargh

2010-08-28, 11:55 AM

Oh yeaaaah, I meant to link that when it came out, but then I forgot. Oops.

In other news, Crossbone Gundam is the best thing ever written by Tomino, and you should read it. Especially if you kinda-sorta liked F91, but were let down by it not having the room to stretch its story-telling wings. Or if you like the idea of pirate Gundams. And hey, it's got the best damn Gundam protagonist ever, too!

Tengu_temp

2010-08-28, 04:57 PM

Prime32

2010-08-28, 05:34 PM

From other things that aren't really news but weren't mentioned yet, the new Gundam series (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDHniRGqyC0) decided to go all meta, apparently. And doesn't even pretend it's not merchandise-driven.And it's probably not even the most meta entry in the series (Gundam Sousei, I'm looking at you).

Was that... the actual Gundam statue they built in Japan, in animated form? :smalleek: And I think we've now discovered the most pointless use for beam technology ever.

Attilargh

2010-08-28, 10:42 PM

Was that... the actual Gundam statue they built in Japan, in animated form? :smalleek:
Yup, the Odaiba 1:1 Gundam, faithful to real life. It's kind of a shame the kits for the show are merely High Grade, I'd love an MG Beacguy. Yes, that's its actual name.

VanBuren

2010-08-29, 05:05 PM

From other things that aren't really news but weren't mentioned yet, the new Gundam series (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDHniRGqyC0) decided to go all meta, apparently. And doesn't even pretend it's not merchandise-driven.

I'm pretty sure that's just going to be an OVA, and not an entire series. That'd be awfully meta for a whole show.

Tengu_temp

2010-08-29, 05:10 PM

OVAs can have the length of TV shows, though.

Lord of Rapture

2010-08-30, 08:14 AM

Does anyone know the full history of the Mundus Magicus? It's...for a private project. :smallwink:

Rogue 7

2010-08-30, 10:56 AM

Does anyone know the full history of the Mundus Magicus? It's...for a private project. :smallwink:

....Now you've managed to make me curious. Lemme guess- a fanfiction?

Negima spoilage and speculation-

I don't think we know all that much about the magic world's origin, but given that Kurt, Fate, and the others talk about how Mars will become a lifeless ball of red rock once the spell breaks, I would suspect that it was originally that same lifeless ball. Several hundred years ago, a group of mages, possibly doing the standard "run away from the witch burning" bit, looked up at the red planet and said "%&*@ it, let's go there", so they basically put together both a massive transportation spell and a *&^%$@$% huge terraforming spell and cast it onto Mars, turning it into what we see today. They all popped over there and for some reason, a bunch of them turned into catfolk and dolphin-men and the like. They probably used this time to develop the sort of magitech we see in the world there, mainly the airships.

Politically, I would suspect that there was only one system of government to start with, and people were fairly tight-knit, having been united by persecution back on Earth, or what they did to get to Mars. This government, I would suspect, was the Hellas empire, which grew and grew to become more focused on those citizens who...changed, for a lack of a better word. As a result of this, two factions split off in what I suspect was a rather messy civil war- the Ostian government, dedicated to humans and obsessed with the advancement and study of pure magic, and the Megalomesambria city-state, which was dedicated to magitech and had the strongest ties to the old world.

From there, we get into what we know- how the war between Hellas and Ostia/Megalomesambria was manipulated by Kosmo Entelechaia (how in blazes do you spell that?), and this ultimately resulted in Ostia's destruction. Megalomesambria emerged in the "North" (which for some reason seems to be oriented down in maps of the Magic World) as the main government, but it's less powerful than Ostia was and still more focused on the real world.

Nobody seems to know it, but the original terraforming spell is almost out of juice, and bad things happen when it runs out.

Enter Negi.

Cubey

2010-08-30, 11:04 AM

Prime32

2010-08-30, 12:22 PM

Courtesy of /m/ now we have a giant robot periodic table (http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7050/tableq.jpg). Okay, not everyone there is a giant robot.Let me give it a try...

H: Haro (Gundam)
He: Heroman
Li: ?
Be: Bender (Futurama)
B: Boss Borot (Mazinger Z)
C: Cybuster (SRW)
N: Nu Gundam (UC Gundam)
O: Big O
F: Union Flag (Gundam 00)
Ne: ?
Na: Godannar
Mg: Mazinger Z
Al: Alteisen (SRW)
Si: Sizzler (Gunbuster)
P: ?
S: ?
Cl: Codarl (Full Metal Panic)
Ar: Arbalest (Full Metal Panic)
K: King Gainer
Ca: ?
Sc: ? (I know I've seen this one somewhere - that eye featured prominently in the opening)
Ti: ?
V: Valkyrie (Macross)
Cr: that Tau guy (Warhammer 40K)
Mn: Megatron (Transformers)
Fe: The Iron Giant/The Iron Man
Co: Combattler V
Ni: Nirvash (Eureka Seven)
Cu: Cutey Honey
Zn: ?
Ga: GaoGaiGar
Ge: Getter-1 (Getter Robo)
As: Astro Boy
Se: Black Selena? (this is a guess, I just know the name)
Br: Braiger
Kr: Kamen Rider
Rb: ? (some Gundam series)
Sr: SRX (SRW)
Y: ? (Yatterman?)
Zr: Zeorymer
Nb: Something piloted by Char (UC Gundam)
Mo: ?
Tc: Tachikoma (Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex)
Ru: RyuKoOh (SRW)
Rh: DaiRaiOh (SRW)
Pd: Panda Z or whatever it's called
Ag: ?
Cd: Mike Sounders (GaoGaoGar)
In: ?
Sn: ? (Gundam Unicorn?)
Sb: Sazabi (UC Gundam)
Te: Tetsujin-28/Gigantor
I: Ideon
Xe: ?
Cs: Crossbone Gundam
Ba: Baxinger?
La: Lancelot (Code Geass)
Hf: Heavy something?
Ta: Turn A Gundam
W: ?
Re: ReSOMEthing (UC Gundam)
Os: Optimus Prime (Transformers)
Ir: Ironhide (Transformers)
Pt: Gespenst, Personal Trooper (SRW)
Au: Anubis (Zone of the Enders)
Hg: ? (UC Gundam)
Tl: Tallguese
Pb: lolwut
Bi: Aura Battler Dunbine?
Po: Robo/Prometheus (Chrono Trigger)
At: The Kulminator from Cubix?
Rn: Raideen
Fr: ?
Ra: RahXephon
Ac: Acguy (UC Gundam)
Rf: ? (Gundam Unicorn)
Db: Diebuster
Sg: Kotetsu Shin Jeeg
Bh: Iron Gear from Xabungle? Wild guess.
Hs: Hyaku-Shiki (UC Gundam)
Mt: Metabee (Medabots/Medarot)
Ds: Daimos
Rg: R-Gun (SRW)
Cn: ?
Ce: Compatible Kaiser (SRW)
Pr: Persoenlichkeit (SRW)
Nd: Nadleeh Gundam (Gundam 00)
Pm: Protoman (Megaman)
Sm: Sammy (Time of Eve)
Eu: Eva-01 (Neon Genesis Evangelion)
Gd: It's a Gundam!
Tb: Tekkaman Blade
Dy: DyGenGuard (SRW)
Ho: HoRyu (GaoGaiGar)
Er: EnRyu (GaoGaiGar)
Tm: ? (Virtual-On)
Yb: Yaldabout (SRW)
Lu: ? (Aquarion?)
Th: ?
Pa: ?
U: ?
Np: Nemesis Prime (Transformers)
Pu: Quebley, piloted by Puru? (UC Gundam)
Am: Airman (Megaman)
Cm: Cutman (Megaman)
Bk: Black Getter (Getter Robo)
Cf: ? (Zoids)
Es: Escaflowne
Fm: Freedom Gundam (Gundam SEED)
Md: something mass-produced (UC Gundam) - I know I had a few of these things in Alpha Gaiden
No: Nobel Gundam (G Gundam)
Lr: ? (Macross?)

Cubey

2010-08-30, 01:14 PM

catchthesun

2010-08-31, 01:12 AM

One Two more for the list.

Pa - Palace Athene (http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/z/pmx-001.htm)(Zeta Gundam)

Cf - Command Wolf (http://zoids.wikia.com/wiki/Command_Wolf)

Drascin

2010-08-31, 08:25 AM

Hey, everyone!

Courtesy of /m/ now we have a giant robot periodic table (http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7050/tableq.jpg). Okay, not everyone there is a giant robot.

Note: link mildly NSFW due to a single use of a curseword. Not anymore!

I... actually recognize quite a few of those. I'm shocked and a bit proud of myself :smallsmile:.

Okay, so part of it is because all the ones who come from videogames I know as a matter of course, but still, I actually know some of the anime ones, and two years ago I hadn't ever actually seen a single mecha series!

Also, for the list:

Cn is Casshern - the series got brought to my attention only thanks to the Tatsunoko vs Capcom game, but no android guy who has a robot dog with a missile launcher can be totally bad :smalltongue:.

Cubey

2010-08-31, 09:12 AM

At is the Atlas 'mech. How did I miss that one?

And I can't stop being amused on how they managed HyoRyu and EnRyu to be next to each other.

SAMAS

2010-08-31, 09:34 AM

Adding to your list. If I say nothing then it means I agree with you.
P: Pluto
Sc: Scopedog. Good old VOTOMS.
Rb: Ball, from the first Gundam.
Mo: Mospeada
Y: Yes, that's Yatterman
In: Ingram, from Patlabor
Sn: Sinanju. From Unicorn, indeed.
Ba: Baldios
Re: ReZEL
Bi: Billbine. But yes, from Dunbine.
Bh: Blockhead, from Dougram.
Tm: Temjin
Lu: Aquarion Luna
Th: Thor. Starcraft II
Pu: Purupurupurupuru~, indeed.
Lr: Layzner

Technically, Y is Yatterwan. :D
S is a Saku, a little joke machine based off the Zaku.
Hg is in fact the Hygogg from Gundam 0080.
I'm fairly certain Ne is the Neue Ziel from Gundam 0083.
U is definitely an Urbanmech from BattleTech.
Zn is, I think, the Zenith/Zensliev from Front Mission.

Wow, Danbooru's got the whole list ID'd already. Do a search for Periodic table. They also have one of anime girls in general.

NeonBlack

2010-08-31, 10:25 AM

Wow, Danbooru's got the whole list ID'd already. Do a search for Periodic table. They also have one of anime girls in general.

This one (http://narock22.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/tabla-periodica-de-personajes-anime.jpg), I guess. I'll take a stab at it later, although on a first quick scan I don't quite get why Kr is Ryougi Shiki, or why P is Tohsaka Rin...

Prime32

2010-08-31, 10:26 AM

This one (http://narock22.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/tabla-periodica-de-personajes-anime.jpg), I guess. I'll take a stab at it later, although on a first quick scan I don't quite get why Kr is Ryougi Shiki, or why P is Tohsaka Rin...
Kr = Killer?

H: Haruhi
He: ?
Li: ?
Be: ?
B: Belldandy (Oh My Goddess!)
C: C.C. (Code Geass)
N: Nanoha
O: Osaka (Azumanga Daioh)
F: ?
Ne: ?
Na: Yuki Nagato (Haruhi)
Mg: ?
Al: ?
Si: ?
P: Rin Tohsaka (Fate/stay night)
S: ?
Cl: CLANNAD
Ar: ?
K: Konata Izumi (Lucky Star)
Ca: Canaan
Sc: ?
Ti: Tiger (Toradora)
V: Miku Hatsune (Vocaloid)
Cr: ?
Mn: I think this is K-On
Fe: ?
Co: ?
Ni: Ninja Shinobuden, or something like that?
Cu: The same as the mecha table. :smallconfused:
Zn: ?
Ga: Galaxy Angel
Ge: ?
As: Asuka (Evangelion)
Se: ?
Br: ?
Kr: Ryougi Shiki (Kara no Kyoukai)
Rb: ?
Sr: ?
Y: Main character of K-On
Zr: ?
Nb: ?
Mo: K-On character ("Mio" I think?)
Tc: The name is in the corner
Ru: Lucy (Efen Lied)
Rh: Reimu Hakurei
Pd: ?
Ag: ?
Cd: ?
In: Maybe I could recognise this if I had a better shot
Sn: Shana (Shakugan no Shana)
Sb: Saber (Fate/stay night)
Te: ?
I: ?
Xe: ?
Cs: Cardcaptor Sakura
Ba: ?
La: Ranka Lee (Macross Frontier)
Hf: ?
Ta: ?
W: ?
Re: Rena Ryuugu (Higurashi)
Os: An OS-tan
Ir: ?
Pt: Patricia Martin (Lucky Star)
Au: ?
Hg: ? (UC Gundam)
Tl: A Certain Scientific Railgun
Pb: Read or Die
Bi: ?
Po: ?
At: ?
Rn: Ren (Tsukihime/Kagetsu Tohya)
Fr: Flandre Scarlet (Touhou)
Ra: Rei Ayanami (Evangelion)
Ac: ?
Rf: ?
Db: Bulma (Dragonball)
Sg: Shugo Chara
Bh: ?
Hs: ?
Mt: ?
Ds: ?
Rg: A Certain Scientific Railgun
Cp: ?
Ce: Ciel (Tsukihime)
Pr: Cure Black and Cure White (Pretty Cure)
Nd: ?
Pm: ?
Sm: Sailor Moon
Eu: Eureka (Eureka Seven)
Gd: ?
Tb: ? (Familiar of Zero?)
Dy: ?
Ho: ?
Er: ?
Tm: ?
Yb: Yotsuba
Lu: Louise the Zero (Familiar of Zero)
Th: To Heart
Pa: ? (Strike Witches)
U: Main heroine (UFO Princess Valkyrie)
Np: ? (Higurashi)
Pu: ?
Am: Kohaku Broomstick Girl Magical Amber (Kagetsu Tohya)
Cm: ?
Bk: ?
Cf: ?
Es: Estelle (Tales of Vesperia)
Fm: ?
Md: Nanami Madobe (official Japanese Windows 7 mascot)
No: ?
Lr: Ruri (Nadeisco)
There were so many I'd seen before but didn't know the names of

NeonBlack

2010-08-31, 10:32 AM

Kr = Killer?

Or maybe Kr = Kara no Kyoukai, stretching it a bit further. I still can't think anything that makes P make sense, though...

Attilargh

2010-08-31, 10:32 AM

Listan', in case there's someone who hasn't not spoiled themselves silly with the chart in the 'boorus.
Hf is the Hildolfr (http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/msigloo/ymt-05.htm) from MS IGLOO.
Rf is not from Gundam Unicorn, but Broken Blade. It's Rygart'sKira's Delphine. Why Rf? Because the official romanization is "Dirfinge", I guess.

NeonBlack

2010-08-31, 02:57 PM

H: Haruhi
He: ?
Li: ?
Be: ?
B: Belldandy (Oh My Goddess!)
C: C.C. (Code Geass)
N: Nanoha
O: Osaka (Azumanga Daioh)
F: ?
Ne: ?
Na: Yuki Nagato (Haruhi)
Mg: ?
Al: ?
Si: ?
P: Rin Tohsaka (Fate/stay night)
S: ?
Cl: CLANNAD
Ar: ?
K: Konata Izumi (Lucky Star)
Ca: Canaan
Sc: ?
Ti: Tiger (Toradora)
V: Miku Hatsune (Vocaloid)
Cr: ?
Mn: I think this is K-On
Fe: ?
Co: ?
Ni: Ninja Shinobuden, or something like that?
Cu: The same as the mecha table. :smallconfused:
Zn: ?
Ga: Galaxy Angel
Ge: ?
As: Asuka (Evangelion)
Se: ?
Br: ?
Kr: Ryougi Shiki (Kara no Kyoukai)
Rb: ?
Sr: ?
Y: Main character of K-On
Zr: ?
Nb: ?
Mo: K-On character ("Mio" I think?)
Tc: The name is in the corner
Ru: Lucy (Efen Lied)
Rh: Reimu Hakurei
Pd: ?
Ag: ?
Cd: ?
In: Maybe I could recognise this if I had a better shot
Sn: Shana (Shakugan no Shana)
Sb: Saber (Fate/stay night)
Te: ?
I: ?
Xe: ?
Cs: Cardcaptor Sakura
Ba: ?
La: Ranka Lee (Macross Frontier)
Hf: ?
Ta: ?
W: ?
Re: Rena Ryuugu (Higurashi)
Os: An OS-tan
Ir: ?
Pt: Patricia Martin (Lucky Star)
Au: ?
Hg: ? (UC Gundam)
Tl: A Certain Scientific Railgun
Pb: Read or Die
Bi: ?
Po: ?
At: ?
Rn: Ren (Tsukihime/Kagetsu Tohya)
Fr: Flandre Scarlet (Touhou)
Ra: Rei Ayanami (Evangelion)
Ac: ?
Rf: ?
Db: Bulma (Dragonball)
Sg: Shugo Chara
Bh: ?
Hs: ?
Mt: ?
Ds: ?
Rg: A Certain Scientific Railgun
Cp: ?
Ce: Ciel (Tsukihime)
Pr: Cure Black and Cure White (Pretty Cure)
Nd: ?
Pm: ?
Sm: Sailor Moon
Eu: Eureka (Eureka Seven)
Gd: ?
Tb: ? (Familiar of Zero?)
Dy: ?
Ho: ?
Er: ?
Tm: ?
Yb: Yotsuba
Lu: Louise the Zero (Familiar of Zero)
Th: To Heart
Pa: ? (Strike Witches)
U: Main heroine (UFO Princess Valkyrie)
Np: ? (Higurashi)
Pu: ?
Am: Kohaku Broomstick Girl Magical Amber (Kagetsu Tohya)
Cm: ?
Bk: ?
Cf: ?
Es: Estelle (Tales of Vesperia)
Fm: ?
Md: Nanami Madobe (official Japanese Windows 7 mascot)
No: ?
Lr: Ruri (Nadeisco)
There were so many I'd seen before but didn't know the names of

Mn is not K-On, although the girl on the left looks somewhat like Azusa. Y and Mo are, though. Yui Hirasawa and Mio Akiyama respectively.

No idea about the rest. Although I have this nagging feeling that I should know Hf...

catchthesun

2010-08-31, 09:58 PM

Okay, for the list with the girls...

He - Henrietta (Gunslinger Girl)
Ne - Nemu (which I'm fairly certain is from Da Capo)
Al - That looks like one of the Aria girls...
Ar - Air

Mn: I think this is K-On

That's Minami-ke, actually.

Nb - I'm fairly certain that's meant to stand for Nice Boat. (Although, I'm positive that's not School Days.)
Pd - Rin Kokonoe (Kodomo no Jikan) (Being Pedobait and all...)
Ds - Kana reads "Rabupurasu" (Love Plus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LovePlus)?)
Dy - Dita (Vandread)
Ho - Holo (Spice and Wolf)
Np - Rika Furude (Higurashi) (For "Nipaaa!", I guess)
Bk - Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu

Zeful

2010-08-31, 10:31 PM

Tb: ? (Familiar of Zero?)

Tabitha, and yes.

Ryuho Tsugu

2010-08-31, 11:00 PM

I still can't think anything that makes P make sense, though...

P → Phosphorus → 燐 in Japanese, which is read rin.

On that note...

Hg is Suigintō from Rozen Maiden, because Hg → Mercury → 水銀 suigin
and Ag is Yin from Darker than Black, whose name literally means "silver".

Serpentine

2010-09-02, 10:18 AM

Lookit me, I'm an anime fan!

No, really. I just watched most of Code Geass with my boy (missed a couple of episodes, including the first). It was pretty great. It still had a couple of the animey things that bug me (cheapskate animation shortcuts and over-the-top reactions, mostly), but they were minor. I was kind of uncomfortable the whole way through, because I was afraid it would have an emotionally and ethically unsatisfying ending. It did not. It frickin' rawked.

So. I like anime. Well, one, at least...

Atelm

2010-09-02, 10:30 AM

Excellent, now go watch some more series. :smallcool:

---

As for my Umineko (sound novel) theories which I mentioned ages ago, I haven't forgotten. However, I haven't actually gotten around to gathering my thoughts together to even begin resembling something comprehensible. Suffice to say, Jessica, Shannon and Kanon, that I'm looking at you with very, very suspecting gaze.

kamikasei

2010-09-02, 10:30 AM

I'm honestly surprised; I wouldn't have thought Code Geass likely to appeal to someone generally not interested in anime. Did you watch the first season, or R2 as well?

Serpentine

2010-09-02, 10:40 AM

The whole thing, as far as I'm aware. Started with Lelouch's exile with his sister,ended with Lelouch's willing assassination at the hands of... forget his name, the Lancelot guy.Is that R2, too?

Oslecamo

2010-09-02, 10:45 AM

Is that R2, too?

It is. And I love you for loving it because most other fans of the series hate R2, so you liking it it's proof that it's as awesome as the 1st series like I always defended.

This is, if it can please people who didn't like anime it can't be that bad and must actualy be good right?

Serpentine

2010-09-02, 10:46 AM

It was emotionally jarring, but the ending totally made up for it.

Rogue 7

2010-09-02, 11:37 AM

So what about Code Geass did you like? The show covers so many different styles and genres of anime (I've heard the description that it's the most anime anime ever, and I agree with it.) that just saying you liked Code Geass is really broad.

F'rex, did you like the Giant Robot fighting? My first recommendation would be Full Metal Panic, which does a lot of the same things as Code Geass- a high school comedy setting intermixed with giant robot drama, but with less sweeping politics and schemes and more of a "military" sense.

hanzo66

2010-09-02, 12:02 PM

T'was an amusing show for it's run, but most people usually believe that by the second season it got a bit too preposterous.

In my case it just made it even funnier.

Poison_Fish

2010-09-02, 12:24 PM

T'was an amusing show for it's run, but most people usually believe that by the second season it got a bit too preposterous.

In my case it just made it even funnier.

That is also my general sentiments. Also I enjoyed the over the top reaction faces.

mallorean_thug

2010-09-02, 05:42 PM

As for my Umineko (sound novel) theories which I mentioned ages ago, I haven't forgotten. However, I haven't actually gotten around to gathering my thoughts together to even begin resembling something comprehensible. Suffice to say, Jessica, Shannon and Kanon, that I'm looking at you with very, very suspecting gaze.

I don't even really have any theories right now besides "Oh God please say the solution is NOT Shkanon" I was planning to reread the first 6 before 7 gets translated, but after I read Fate/Stay Night, which I started a day or two ago. Were you going to try to make your theories just with info available from the question arcs, or were you also going to try to find something useful in the clusterf***s that are EP5 and EP6?

Oh, in other new, I just watched Origins: Spirits of the Past. All I really have to say about it is that man, the opening sequences got my hopes way too far up with the superb presentation of an interesting setting, because the rest of the movie was sure full of lackluster plot and characters. Honestly, everything it does well, Princess Mononoke does better. Verdict: Skip

I also finished watching the second season of Clannad the other day. I had watched it on a friend's recommendation and to try to broaden my anime horizons, and I actually enjoyed it. At certain parts of the second season, I honestly broke into tears because the show had done such a great job at emotionally investing me in the characters. The ending, I have mixed feelings on, but discussing them would necessitate spoilers. It really is to bad that multiple arc visual novels seem to bring unavoidable pacing issues and characterization issues for the side characters when adapted into a single continuity anime. On the other hand, had it not been adapted, I'd never have read the VN simply because of the larger time investment and its genre. Either way, I found it enjoyable and very competent at what it did, but I won't be watching any romantic comedy / human drama for quite a while now.