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Frozen_Feet

2011-03-14, 08:40 AM

Created as a successor to the original Bleach ITP, Reborn started as a reboot, returning to the lower-powered roots of canon Bleach. We've been going for a while, but we still welcome new players. :smallsmile:

Important stuff so far:

OOC THREADS

First Discussion Thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145883)
Disccusion Thread 2 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147717)
Discussion Thread 3 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149850)
Discussion Thread 4 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150660)
Discussion thread 5 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151506)
Discussion thread 6 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=153111)
Discussion thread 7 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=153945)
Discussion thread 8 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155979)
OOC Thread 9 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157209)
Thread 10 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159337)
Thread 11 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=163108)
Thread 12 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168619)
Thread 13 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173671)
Thread 14 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10103871#post10103871)

IC THREADS

Mortal World:
Thread 1 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=156068)
Thread 2 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168970)
Thread 3 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=186633)
Soul Society:
Thread 1 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=156067)
Thread 2 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168846)
Thread 3 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194652)
Hueco Mundo:
Thread 1 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=156070)
Thread 2 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171037)

EPISODES

Episode 1: "Prologue! A new tale, a new Shinigami!" (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152286)
Episode 2: Hannibal's Past: Flashback to the Old! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8543521)
Episode 3: Gotei Joint-Ops! What could ever go wrong? (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164828)
Episode 4: A Heritage Revealed! Awaken, Ayase! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164934)
Episode 5: Drunken Brawl! No actual drunks included! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170997)
Episode 6: Another Night Out. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=180925)
7: A New Hero is Born: A Meeting of Hearts and Fists (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=190477)
8: Revenge of the training instructor (http://bleachitp-reborn.wikidot.com/episodes:revenge-of-the-training-instructor)

OTHER HELPFUL LINKS
Character Registry (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146758)
Wiki (http://bleachitp-reborn.wikidot.com/) - Password "foamy".

A while ago we chose Central 5, a group of five people who work as a governing body for the Soul Society. They are currently Callos_DeTerran, Sucrose, Frozen_Feet, KnightDisciple and Prime32. They are tasked with such tasks as deciding Captain promotions and upholding laws of Seireitei. Details can be found below.

In the second last thread people voted and decided that there would not be a Quincy vs Shinigami war before the actual start of the story/roleplay unlike in canon. It was also decided through a vote that Quincy arrows would destroy souls as they do in canon through a vote. People are open to the possibility of future conflicts between the two factions and the Quincy learning how to purify souls with their arrows. Learning how to do so would likely be a significant plot point.

Quincy players have decided that anyone that makes a Quincy should write up a description of their family/clan's history.

Souls that are fully absorbed and become part of a hollow permanently fuse with it. When a hollow is purified the souls it absorbed are not split up. They are reborn as a single entity.

Frozen_Feet's proposed take on this:
Life Cycle of Hollows.

Canny Hollows: these are beings like Grand Fisher and Shrieker - normal Hollows that stay behind in Mortal World much longer than usual. Why? Either they still have unfinished business... or they were already crooked in life.

My reasoning is as follows: when a good Plus turns into a Hollow, it seeks to destroy its loved ones like any other Hollow. However, the mind of the good souls can't hold together once they're done with that. They lack killer's instinct, and might even feel guilt for breaking what was once dear to them in life. This is why they seek oblivion.

Evil souls, on the other hand, gain much more pleasure from tormenting living beings. Even after they've killed those they had a personal beef with, they stay in Mortal World, because their bestial desires won't let them leave. In a way, they still have something to do that defines them and stops them from losing their inviduality, even if it's only "kill all things":

Menos Grande Gillians: When a soul becomes Hollow, the first thing it does is destroy all things it held dear in mortal life. In most cases, having lost their purpose and consumed by their own loneliness, Hollows wander into Hueco Muendo, where they instinctively seek out other souls who died in the same way. Seeking embrace of sweet oblivion, they engage in cannibalistic orgy and fuse into Menos Grande Gillian. Fusion of souls is permanent; once eaten by a Gillian, a soul cannot be separated again.

Menos Grande Gillian's have no identity, only scattered fragments of negative memories and emotions. When such a Gillian is purified, its soul passes into Soul Society as essentially blank slate. However, due to originally being gestalt of multiple entities, such soul has much vaster Reiryoku than normal and is more likely to fragment into Zanpakuto spirit and Inner Hollow. Thus, a purified Menos Grande Gillian is very likely to become a shinigami.

Adjuchas and Vasto Lordes: As noted, Menos Grande Gillians are gestalt formed from people who died in the same way. Adjuchas happens when the amount of souls reaches a critical mass, causing a new personality to bloom from the fragmented memories. This being is effectively personification of its "cause of death". However, Adjuchas aren't stable, and must keep absorbing other Hollows who died the same way to increase in power. Should they fail to absorb other Hollows, starvation will make them regress, reducing them back to mindless beasts. Once Adjuchas has eaten enough souls, it evolves into a Vasto Lorde. However, this requires that they beat all of their challengers, letting none who manage to eat a bit of them to get away.

So, why can't Adjuchas who gets a bit of itself eaten become a Vasto Lorde? It's because losing to another Hollow means there's another being with same Aspect of Death who is more powerful. A Vasto Lorde is a Menos who has absorbed or proven itself to be stronger than all other Hollows with the same aspect of death. They are, effectively, anthropomorphic personifications of their Aspect of Death, and rule supreme over lost souls who died that way. As long as they remain undefeated, they are stable; if a Vasto Lorde does lose, it begins to regress like Adjuchas until it can destroy the Hollow that defeated it.

Arrancars: A Hollow can become an Arrancar in any point of its life, as long as it has a personality at the time. An Arrancar is a Hollow who learns to define itself by way other than its Aspect of Death, thus rising above its bestial instincts.

All Arrancars are stable. While an Arrancar can keep eating souls to increase in power, it no longer fuses new souls with the core of its person - the nommed soul only loses its reiryoku. A soul eaten by Arrancar is usually reborn as a new Hollow. In any case, eating Pluses or other Hollows is pretty much voluntary for an Arrancar - they mostly do so because there is no other food in Hueco Muendo. Because of this, Arrancars can't be held as inherently worse than humans or Shinigami.

Menos and Purification: Shinigami who don't remember their lives were Menos who got purified. As the identity of a Menos is effectively a new entity and is only born after death, Konso unfortunately wipes that all away. For purposes of Redemption, a soul which has gone through Oblivion of the Gillian phase is exempt from Hell's punishment. They become Shinigami because of huge amount of Reiryoku they accumulated as a Hollow.

Resurreccion and Segunda Etapa: Resurreccion is an Arrancars ability to retake its form as a Hollow, and consequently as the manifestation of its aspect. The power of an Arrancars resurreccion is in part directly proportional to how much the Arrancar's behaviour reflects its Aspect.

While achieving Segunda Etapa is only typical for Vasto Lordes who already rule over their Aspect, theoretically any Arrancar can achieve it through meticulous training and self realization.

Soul Society and the inhabitants of Las Noches (The King of Hollows, the Epsada and their underlings) have a truce between each other at the start of the game/story but both sides want to break as soon as they gain a substantial upper hand on the other.

People that want to make captain entries should write up a history for their preferred division including duties, a past captain or two and whatever else you might think important to add. It can be significantly different from canon.

General Originally Posted by Zarah
We need a clearly directed plot in order to keep things trucking along without getting stalled, and I had a thought of a way to help accomplish that. Basically, we come up with some central themes for this game. This isn't a revolutionary idea, and some people were already doing just that in the previous game, but I'm saying we all come up with and agree on two or three major themes for this story. Ones that will continue to appear again and again across many of the plotlines throughout the entire game. It'll help direct the plot and could potentially give some good ideas for other characters. Not to mention, it'll give much more of a satisfying payoff in the end once the themes are fully realized.

Whatever they are, they should be fairly general, so they can be adapted to as many of the plots that we have going. Of course, we can expand to include as many motifs and themes as we want in our own stories, but if we have a set of continuous themes to draw from, then it'll really help make things much more connected. Even more coherent.

Obviously, the one I'm gunning for with Kujo is "Law vs. Chaos," and Bleach in of itself has tons of themes we can pick from. "Inner Conflict" is a big one, for example. But hey, I'm open to other suggestions. Any thoughts?
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Originally Posted by KnightDisciple
I think "Law vs. Chaos" is good.

I'd like to play off of strawberryman's suggested faction, as well as off of what we've seen in our current game, and suggest something dealing with the question: How far do you go to accomplish something? Do you do evil in the name of a greater good? (Sorry. I couldn't help myself.) Or do you make sure to never compromise your principles, large and small, no matter the cost?

Not sure how to compress that into a pithy phrase, but there we go.
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Originally Posted by KnightDisciple
The following came about in a discussion about the nature of various Shinigami and Arrancar hybrids and such.

The Hougyoku is a substance used to perfect the hybridization of hollow and shinigami. It might have been created, or not. If it has, the creators were most likely vanquished by the powers of the Seireitei and Las Noches, who then sealed the thing off into some forsaken spot of some forsaken demiplane, with only the Ghost King and the Commander General being aware of its location. Both factions had problems with mad or power-hungry Artificial Arrancar and Stable Vizards, deciding that it better to forget the thing.

Shinigami Hybrids:

Unstable Vizard
An unstable vizard is a shinigami who, through some sort of accident or other means, has gained minor hollow powers.
An unstable vizard has access to a personal hollow mask, but does not have any unique powers and his hollowfication never progresses sufficiently to make a resurreccion or segunda etapa possible, and the unstable vizard gains access only to cero and garganta.
Becoming an Unstable Vizard is dangerous and hardly ever intentional, as the name implies, most accidents that would result in an unstable vizard result in a dead shinigami or a hollow, instead. Unstable Vizards must fight off their inner hollow and hollowifcation fully, to prevent the being from overcoming them utterly, but this is a fight that never truly ends.

Stable Vizard
A stable vizard has been created through use of the hougyoku. They do not have to fight off the hollowfication or an inner hollow, which is melded into their person completely.
A stable vizard has access to all hollow powers (cero, bala, sonido, garganta and hierro), and their masks might grant them a unique power, they also have the power to achieve resurreccion and even segunda etapa.

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Hollow Hybrids

Natural Arrancar
Natural arrancar are hollows who arrancarised themselves, or with the help of other hollows who know how to speed up the process. The arrancar gains an arrancar zanpakutou, which has no spirit, and is merely most of the arrancar's unique powers sealed into sword shape.
Natural arrancar have access to resurreccion and may develop segunda etapa. But do not have access to shinigami abilities.

Artificial Arrancar
Artificial arrancar are created through the Hougyoku. They have the potential to sunder off one of the souls that forms their colective and form it into a second zanpakutou capable of granting shikai and even bankai. Artificial arrancar have the potential to learn shinigami techniques such as Hoho, Kido and Hakuda.

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Mortal/Hollow Hybrids

Living Vizard
A Living Vizard is a mortal with a hollow mask, the mask comes with an innate, unique power, and when on, it gives the normal boosts and hollow abilities. Living Vizards can, eventualy, achieve resurreccion. A vizard mask cannot ever be lost, and if broken it can be resummoned almost instantly.

Living Arrancar
A living arrancar gains an arrancar zanpakuto (no spirit), hollow abilities (sonido, cero, hierro, bala) and the power of resurreccion. Resurreccion relies on the zanpakuto, which, unlike the vizard mask, can be broken (in which case it needs awhile to regrow).

Hollowing
A hollowing is a mortal who gains the power to turn some body part into a hollow-like version with greater strenght, speed and resilience. The powers in this hollowlike limb can be bolstered through training, but only up to a limit. As this limit is reached the hollowing must, in order to increase her powers, absorb hollow reishi, either form the atmosphere of hueco mundo or through the cannibalization of hollows, which allows even more of the Hollowing's body to turn into hollow-like parts.
The powers of the hollowing come at a risk, for, when enough of the hollowing's body becomes hollowlike, he risks becoming trapped into the monstrous shape.

Shinigami/ Mortal Hybrids:

Substitute Shinigami
This should be pretty basic and obvious.

Living Shinigami
Living shinigami are mortals with access to a shinigami zanpakutou while still in their mortal bodies.

Purpose of the Central 5/46 and Division Information
5 trusted players are chosen to act as the Central 46. Any of these people can post as the entire body, and essentially act as an administrative organization both in and out of character. You might think that doesn't make sense, but in actuality, the duties would cross-over a lot more than you might imagine. For example, say a player wants his character to be promoted to a captain at some point in the RPG. The Central 46 would be the ones who analyze the situation and make a decision, but they'd have to look closely at both the character and the player to see if they're ready for the responsibilities. As another example, imagine that a group of rogue Shinigami appear in the mortal world and start causing trouble. The 46 would decide whether or not Soul Society goes to war with them, and thus whether or not any of the more powerful characters get involved in the plot. Think of them like a set of unofficial moderators for the RPG, who keep things in check both ICly and OOCly.

I think it could also add a whole new layer of role-playing opportunities. Let's say a group of low-powered academy students are training in the mortal world when one classmate decides to do something reckless and ends up getting them into dire straits. They make it back to Soul Society alive and in one piece, but now they have to answer to the Central 46 and explain their actions. Having actual players behind the council instead of just mindless NPCs (or corpses) makes it a bit of a nagging threat in the back of people's minds, and could even indirectly prevent players from going overboard. Since I know that if I were sitting on the council, I would not be a gracious host.

Gotei divisions (http://bleachitp-reborn.wikidot.com/seireitei) and their tasks:
1) Administrative.
2) Ninjas.
3) Execution?
4) Healing+Hospitality.
5) Messengers.
6) Reinforcements.
7) Logistics.
8) Tactical planning
9) Recon.
10) Internal Police.
11) Fight.
12) Science.
13) Patrol.

Hollow, Arrancar and Las Noches

Laws of Las Noches
1. Only a victory in singular combat entitles one to take the position of espada from another.
2. The espada are not allowed to conspire against one another.
3. Killing a fellow citizen is a crime, unless it is self-defense, or you don't get caught on the act (drow influence: The real crime is being caught). The espada can add other exclusions of culpability for their sectors (including and up to any reason, LAW*). *Laws as Written.
4. Vandalism is a crime. See above for excludents.
5. Thievery is a crime. See above for details.
The espada and privaron have equal authority over all numeros. The espada have sole authority over their own fraccion. The espada have sole authority over the citizens of their own districts. The fraccion have authority beneath the espada and privaron over all other citizens of Las Noches who live in own their districts. The fraccion have authority beneath that of the espada and privaron over the numeros. The privaron have sole authority over those designated to them by the King and Queen. The King and Queen have authority over all.

Originally Posted by Draken
Now, on to other matters, we need to decide how a few things work. For instance, the menos fusion. When first someone asked what happened to the souls that form a menos, we decided, back then, to have it so that they remain separate (which means when the menos is destroyed all souls are released). But I think it is best if (save exceptions) we have it so that they all permanently fuse.

This has two benefits:

1. It adds a depth of moral doubt to the destruction of an arrancar. They aren't mindless monsters like hollows, they can be argued with, and destroying them won't fre thousands of innocent souls. Just erase their memories.

2. It creates a good "soul number check". We assume that, along with the reincarnations, new souls are, indeed, created. But then... There are only means to increase the number of souls in place. None to reduce them (save awful, vile acts and stuff). The menos "singularity of souls" would be a decent means of keeping the soul population under control.
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Originally Posted by Draken
On Las Noches, I was thinking of this organization:

The King of Hollows: The King of Hollows, duh.
The Espada: Captain/Nobility Equivalents.
Fraccion: The liutenants, officers and close persons to the Espada.
Numeros: The soldiers of Las Noches.
Rest: The rest.

I perceive Las Noches as a city in Hueco Mundo, a city governed by arrancar and open to shinigami, mortal and hollow alike. A city where all beneath the artificial sun is under scrutiny of the law enforcement of the city, but where the shady alleys are hive to scum of the worst sort, criminals, traitors, traficants. A place where the Commander General and the Big Bad can look face to face and not be expected to try to kill each other on the risk of losing free access to this (mostly) safe haven.

The idea here isn't that arrancar and hollows are friendly.

The idea is that one vasto lorde decided to open his domain to other spiritual beings. Mainly because rational menos actually have very little reason to fight shinigami except spite, this is because your average menos won't ever leave Hueco Mundo unless goaded out by some other force. Menos have no interest in plus or living souls, they eat other hollows.
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Originally Posted by Draken View Post
1. I will be assigning the Espada, most likely.

2. I will also, probably, not keep the numbers strongly tied to the power of each character.

3. The Ghost King will not be the primera.

4. My main arrancar character (King's gonna stay in the background) will be the Queen of Hollows, and she will not be an espada either. I will keep those positions for other players.
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Originally Posted by Frozen_Feet View Post
About Aspects of Death: it's established that once a Hollow has destroyed things that were dear to it, they wander into Hueco Muendo and seek out other Hollows to ease their pain / to forget about their lives. I propose they instinctively seek out others who died in the same way, and thus their suffering condenses into their Aspect. Arrancars gain power when the ascended personality realizes this and works around / with it.

Fae

Okay, I think I now have enough to bring this for discussion.

The Fae
Spoiler
The State of the Afterlife of the British Isles
Britain’s afterlife is stable – just. Long periods of internal strife between the psychopomps of Britain, known to themselves as the mac Lir or fab Lly^r, and to others as the Fae, left ample time for Hollows to develop and grow. Now, Britain faces a deep-rooted infestation of well-hidden Menos, but the Houses of the British Isles are united in their desire to rid the islands of these threats.

Annwn – the Afterlife
The British afterlife is called Annwn, a place that reflects the most untouched corners of the British Isles in its geography. The four courts of monarchs are located in a roughly central location within a few hours journey of each other by normal walking speed. Passage between Annwn and the mortal world is achieved by passing through thick banks of mist that function as the Fae equivalent of Senkaimon. The mac Lir make use of ravens, rather than butterflies, to guide them through the misty realm between Annwn and the mortal world.

The Organisation of the Fae
The British Isles are ruled by four monarchs – one each for Ireland, Scotland, England and Wales. Each of these monarchs governs passage of souls into Annwn in the country they are tied to. They each possess three Houses under their command, each ruled by a Tiarna or Pennaeth, individuals equal to the captains of Soul Society. A Tiarna or Pennaeth is directly supported by their Dara or Ail, equivalents to the Japanese Vice-Captains. The rest of the House is made up of thirteen mionn cheangal or lw rhwymo, equivalents to seated officers, plus any other Fae who are members of the House but deemed unworthy of the distinction of the upper ranks. The specialisations of each House vary depending on the current Tiarna or Pennaeth, but it is very rare for their not to be at least one House dedicated to combat in each country at any given time. The ranks of the Houses are held for life, unless the bearer of a rank forfeits it. A House member is usually given a title and land in Annwn upon forfeiting a rank. These titles are hereditary, and their bearers and their family often become the British equivalent of the Noble Houses of Soul Society.

Every year, a randomly selected twenty members of each House are chosen to leave Annwn and go out into the mortal world and deal with Hollows as they see fit. Fae on such leave from their House are known as Fianna, and are exempt from all laws of their lords until the end of their sojourn and return to Annwn.

Each monarch also rules a small Royal House. Tiarna or Pennaeth who truly distinguish themselves are promoted to this rank to serve as the monarch’s guardians and personal champions.

Alongside the House structure exists the Aois-dàna, a loose affiliation of bards and druids that serve as advisors to the lords of the Houses, historians, genealogists, legal specialists, and experts in Ealaín, the British form of kido.

Capabilities of the Fae
All abilities the Fae possess are mirrors of the abilities of shinigami. They can walk on air like their Japanese counterparts, and focus their training on Scileanna Laochra (Zanjutsu), Ystwythder (Hoho), Gan a Arm (Hakudo) and Ealaín (Kido).

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A Note on Language
Whilst most of the terminology for the Fae is based on Celtic languages, some, particularly the specifics and names of Ealaín, were brought to Britain from elsewhere. These use Ancient Sumerian.
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In addition, every Fae possesses a Treoir Anam, their equivalent of a zanpakutou. These possess the potential for a Rhyddhau (shikai) and a Nerthol Rhyddhau (bankai) as a zanpakutou does. The only notable difference between a Treoir Anam and a zanpakutou is that the former are quite likely to take a shape other than a sword even when sealed, spears and axes in particular being quite common, and no small number of Aois-dàna druids possessing sickles.

Ealaín
The mystic arts of Britain function identically to kido, the spells of a given path and number function the same as their foreign counterpart.

Spoiler
Silakus: “Way of Destruction”
1, Taka (Push)
4, Sagir (Pale Lightning Flash): Balor! Unlid the third eye that graces your brow, and let forth the spite of clouds!
11, Nuhuš Gír (Tamed Lightning)
31, Urinti (Blood Arrow): Balor! Unlid the third eye that graces your brow, and let forth the tide of chaos!
33, Nissati (Blue Arrow): Balor! Unlid the third eye that graces your brow, and let the west crash forth!
54, Su-luh Izi (Cleansing Flames): Balor! Unlid the third eye that graces your brow, and empower me to remove impurity from your sight!
58, Imiuru (Windstorm)
63, Anurimiriu (Threefold Storm Roar)
73, Erim Nissati (Host of Blue Arrows): Balor! Unlid the third eye that graces your brow, drown out the sun, and call forth the sundering west winds!
88, Aralimiriutil (Apocalyptic Threefold Netherworld Storm)
90, Gitil (Black Ending)
96, Ašgir Mànu (Single Sword Immolation)

Girserusu: “Path of Shielding Arts”
1, Šaga (Captive)
4, Sigulul (Golden Chain)
8, Tamšen (Reflecting Mirror)
9, Eda (Paralysis): Balor! Lid your third eye, call up the hounds of Annwn, and grace us with the living death!
21, Urinimi (Blood Cloud)
26, Zah Bu (Hiding Light): Balor! Lid your third eye, turn your gaze away, and put the sun in their eyes!
30, Ešhu Ulul (Three-Bird Restraint)
37, Ulgu (Star Net)
39, Senbu (Shielding Light): Balor! Lid your third eye, turn your gaze to me, and guard me with thine wrath!
58, Igisar Lasar (Seeing the World, Knowing All): Balor! Lid your third eye, extend your sight forth, whisper in my ear, and let me see thine sight! The sun and moon are my eyes, the trembling ground my ear!
61, Asni E-kurbu (Six-Body Prison of Light): Balor! Lid your third eye, gift the sun unto to me, and let its halo trap them!
62, Ûšukur (Hundred Spear Fence)
63, Gisigulul (Locking Golden Chain)
73, Išibalsig (Rotated Mountain Wall)
75, Aš Barzilba-an (Five Adamant Pillars)
77, Kadigir (Mouth of the Gods): Balor! Lid your third eye, and gift me with your voice! The clouds are as my mouth, and the skies are as my lungs!
81, Barù-la (Splitting Nothingness)

Geasa
Unlike shinigami, the Fae bear an additional restraint upon their power: geasa (sing. geis). These are taboos for the Fae in question that they must not commit, or lose access to spiritual power or suffer some other misfortune. Anyone can bring a geasa on a Fae, though the Fae in question must willingly accept it. Treoir Anam spirits often require their wielder to agree to a geis before granting Rhyddhau or Nerthol Rhyddhau. They also pay a part in Fae society, geasa often being included in oaths to one’s lord or in marriage vows.

Samsara

Originally Posted by Innis Cabal View Post
As far as the plot is concerned. Here is my contribution, or at least, hopefully. The Samsara plot, and reasoning for their dark activity.

As much as I personally loathe the name of our new city, I figured it could be incorporated into the plot. With a little brain storming with Callos, and a look at the set up of the new game, I’ve noticed there are –a lot- of spiritually aware children. This led to me thinking –why- that might be the case. Its not a normal occurrence. So, here me out.

Phoenix Town () is a center of reincarnation, both out going and inbound to the spiritual world. This inundates the area with spirit particles, thus leading to the relatively high number of the spiritually aware. The Samsara’s main plot in the first game, and the carry over here, is to rebalance the passage of souls, destroying the Valley of Screams, and removing the Blanks from the Cycle of Reincarnation. Thus fixing the balance of the spiritual world. To do this, their plot is to flood the city with Blanks, and over time detonate them once a certain number of highly aware mortal souls are collected. This puts them in direct conflict with the mortal characters for several reasons.

1. The humans –are- those souls, thus making them prime targets for the Samsara to go after.
2. This will blow up the city, killing off the whole area. That’s bad for those living inside the city, with family and friends. Making this a plot that –all- mortal characters can get involved in early on.

Well, that’s my idea for the Samsara plot. Innis tested, Callos Approved. Now, to the playground, think it’ll work?
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Originally Posted by Innis Cabal View Post
The Samsara

Leadership: “The Boss”
Second in Command: Go Nagi
Mortal World Relations:

Primary Grunt Force: Blanks (Augmented Blanks)
Physical Location: The Valley of Screams

Overview: The Cycle of Reincarnation is not a simple or perfect thing. Souls traveling between the worlds sometimes fragment, their memories fading into some unknown location, the soul falling into a realm that should never exist. These are the blanks, souls without memories, lost forever from the Cycle of Reincarnation, unable to return for they cannot remember how. It is unknown how, but when a number of these memory less shells accumulate, a separate realm, the Valley of Screams, is created to house them. This realm, lies between Soul Society and the Mortal World. But the memories of these creatures are not destroyed or lost forever. The swirling mass of memories and experience’s coalesces into an object known as the Memory Rosary, the accumulation of all memories lost between Reincarnation and the journey there in.

The Samsara

The Samsara are akin to Arrancar in that they are an artificial creation, Blanks granted the copies of memories from the Rosary itself. The likeness between themselves, Shimigami, and Arrancar end at this small analogy, not truly meant to exist the Samsara are the thinking force behind the Valley of Screams, the heralds of those cast out by an imperfect system.

Standard Powers of the Samsara
Blank Manipulation: Every member of the Samsara is capable of utilizing Blanks for various purposes. They may duplicate Kido (if their memories contain such information), create weapons or simple items, duplicate flashstep or sonido (again based purely on their memories), or fly. Samsara may also heal with the power of the Blanks, capable of restoring even lost limbs if given proper time and concentration.

Individual Powers

The powers of a Samsara depends entirely on his or her memories, granting each a highly individualized level of capabilities and powers.

What this is, is a simple dolling up of what seems to be the first Villian team of the Reborn game. We're looking for member's currently. So, if anyone's interested, roll a character up and lets see where it goes :smallwink:

Mortals

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Originally Posted by strawberryman View Post
...Okay, well, I assume because there was little reaction it would help if I actually explained what the faction I was planning is.

It's more or less like the Men In Black... It's a multi-national secret organization that deploys agents to clean up after the various mishaps that Soul Reapers can't. As such, the various Soul Reaper organizations usually leave them well enough alone.

...That's their cover op, though. What they are really trying to do is make Mortals able to fend for themselves, and be self-sufficient on the matters of the spiritual. Which meshed pretty well with Ran's goal during the last cycle... but, that's an aside. They track and recruit various spiritual humans: Quincies (in fact that may possibly be a large base of their agents), Living Vizards, various anomalies, just plain spiritually aware humans, or maybe even Bount.

...As for why they may be considered villainous or antagonistic to the Enclave is their willingness to do literally anything to achieve their ends; assassinations, theft... etc. And it's likely that the various runes they possess will be like their Holy Grail. For reasons I don't feel like fully explaining, I would like to keep some secrets.
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Originally Posted by Zarah View Post
Well, I was under the assumption that Phoenix Town was going to be another spiritual hot spot, which explains why so many mortals are developing their own powers. Of course, the introduction of outside forces will help as a catalyst, but it's mostly just the fact of where the people live more than anything. The same abundance of spiritual power in the city would also explain why there might be various factions vying for power in the region even from the beginning.

Also, about the idea of the cold war turning hot, I like that plan. I like it a lot. It fits perfectly with Kujo's intentions, and is more or less what I was planning to work toward anyway, so I'm giving it a hearty thumbs up.
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Originally Posted by Innis Cabal View Post
Well, here is what I was thinking for the over all "History". Its diluted yes, and I'll extrapolate more on it when I can sit down and really pound it out.

Spoiler
The Quincy Bloodlines, as they were, are connected to the ancient Ninja Clans of the Sengoku Jidai, now far removed and interbred with the general populace of Japan, the Quincy themselves would retain lasting familial alliances, hatreds and pacts with other blood lines

Translators: Word Reference (http://www.wordreference.com/) is a pretty good one for English to Spanish. Just don't translate phrases with it.

Kuroimaken

2011-03-14, 08:49 AM

I feel awesome after my morning weight-pumpin'. :smallbiggrin:

Inyu, shall we set up the training nao? :smalltongue:

Prime32

2011-03-14, 09:19 AM

Thread added to wiki (http://bleachitp-reborn.wikidot.com/threads)

The Librarian

2011-03-14, 01:59 PM

Frozen, the Title this OOC should be "What? No Title?" Or something like that.

Frozen_Feet

2011-03-14, 03:50 PM

There were no catchy suggestions, so there is not title. Infact, there were no suggestions.

Yours does not count. :smalltongue:

Kuroimaken

2011-03-14, 05:36 PM

I see it's up to me to suggest something.

Because I'm an egotistical bastard, and because I've been thinking a lot about Episode 8, my suggestion is "REBORN! Tiger Eye!!!".

And without further ado, I'll introduce you guys to the latest concept I've been brewing around in my mind...

Tsukikage Kagami, XXth seat of Y Division

Name: Tsukikage Kagami
Age: 175 (appearance: 17)
Gender: Male
Eyes: Blue (golden when fighting; normally keeps them closed)
Hair: Moss green
Height: 1,59
Weight: 45 kg
Seat: Undecided for now

Background: The Tsukikage family is one of Seireitei's many minor noble houses, nonetheless acknowledged for producing many hard-working Shinigami. They've borne the Gotei a number of tacticians, warriors and Kidou experts. As such, they take their military tradition VERY seriously.

Kagami is the youngest child of his generation. Despite his intelligence, his demeanor was always considered 'flawed' in the eyes of his rather strict father for a lack of interest in military life. When he came of age, he was practically forcibly enrolled in the Gotei academy, where he demonstrated great aptitude for Kidou. As it turns out, however, his abilities lent themselves to healing Kidou as opposed to Hadou and Bakudou. For the period he studied under the Gotei masters, he remained completely out of touch with his family.

During such time, Kagami deepened his study of medicinal techniques. It struck him as odd that the recovery process necessitated replenishing the injured's Reiatsu before healing the physical body - which made it almost impossible for officers to return to the field in a timely fashion after a mission, much less during one (and was further rather innefective as a rule). His research culminated in the creation of Konjinsaryou (Soul Acupuncture), a technique that consisted of sticking specially-prepared needles into the patient's energy centers to facilitate the absorption of ambient Reishi, thus accelerating the process. For this accomplishment alone, he was appointed to a mid-level seat on the 4th division upon graduating.

Which naturally infuriated his father. He considered it a disgrace that his son was unable to honor the family's proud military tradition. Malicious rumors naturally began to fly about, and Kagami requested transfer to a division more appropriate to his father's wishes, despite how it made him miserable.

Personality: Kagami can be considered a cool, even meek individual. He dislikes fighting as a principle, convinced that if you need to expose yourself to the rigors of combat - and therefore risk defeat - you lack the strength to permanently build anything with your victory. His hobbies include singing, playing the flute, reading and writing.
Because he is slow to make friends, he tends to defend them fiercely. Violence for its own sake, particularly sadism, is something he absolutely abhors. Assault upon those who cannot defend themselves REALLY ticks him off.
He has good bedside manners, though patients far too eager to get out of bed usually don't share that view.

Powers: First the basics:
Kidou: Very competent. Particularly skilled with healing Kidou. Neglects Hadou and Bakudou entirely in favor of his own Zanpakutou's abilities and judicious use of his acupuncture needles (except for utility and barrier-type Bakudou). May cast up to level 60 Bakudou (30 unchanted), with the notable exception of Tenteikuura, the one Bakudou he may cast above that limit. His limit for Healing Kidou is higher: 75 (up to 40 unchanted).
Shunpo: Slightly above average. He has the knack for it, but doesn't have much of the training to go beyond his current level yet.
Hakuda: Competent. Actually prefers less direct attacks in favor of disabling blows such as nerve pinches.
Zanjutsu: Poor, though considering how his Zanpakutou works, it comes as little surprise. (See Below)

Zanpakutou
Ranginjin (Storm Minstrel)

Release: "Ama no murakumo de odore! Utatte! Ranginjin!" (Over the gathering clouds of heaven, dance! Sing! Storm Minstrel!)

Powers: Ranginjin is a... very curious Zanpakutou. For one, it lacks a sealed form. It manifests itself in the form of a sprite-like, yellow-toned fairy, roughly 20 cm in height, that follows Kagami wherever he goes. When given its release command, it becomes pure, crackling lightning that is directed wherever Kagami commands it. If Kagami falls unconscious or runs out of power, Ranginjin simply disappears until summoned again. This is the result of a failed attempt of Kagami's to materialize his Zanpakutou too early for Bankai training, due to a lack of sheer amount of Reiatsu. The sword spirit can only present itself in this reduced form (according to Kagami himself, Ranginjin actually has different forms than the one currently following him).

Shikai: Ranginjin becomes pure lightning. In this form, it can concentrate on different parts of Kagami's body for different effects. He can shift the locations very quickly, without needing to vocalize it, though the energy must still run from one point of his body to another. Kagami can only focus Ranginjin on one "set" of body parts at a time.
He may also utilize ambient electricity (such as from thunderbolts or exposed electrical wiring) to power up his attacks.

Legs: increases overall movement speed (including with Shunpo) and destructive power of his kicks.

Arms: Increases punching destructive power. Allows Kagami to release lightning bolts. He may exercise control over the bolts themselves as long as they remain in contact with him - the more complex the movements he requires, the slower the bolts themselves become.

Torso: Diminishes the impact of physical attacks and/or elecrocutes the attacker (depending on attack form). Lessens energy blast damage by a small degree.

Head: Increases brain activity, particularly on the areas related to sensorial information process and problem-solving (in other words, increases his ability to perceive things and process the information received, thus thinking faster). By doing this, he becomes able to read and predict his opponent's moves, improving his timing (though his reaction time doesn't really change by much). He uses this effect scarcely, since increasing brain activity in this manner is not too different from overclocking a computer - demand too much or do it for too long and the "circuits" fry.

Relax, I'm a doctor: Obviously, possesses advanced medical knowledge. He is no surgeon, but he's a very good doctor.

Are you afraid of needles?: Kagami can use his needles in combat to devastating effect. Stick them in the correct spot and he can numb, paralyze or induce excrutiating pain to muscle tissue and even internal organs (the faster the target, the harder to do so accurately, however). His needles also serve as a conduit to the electricity generated by Ranginjin, which somewhat compensates for the lack of raw destructive and penetrative power in his attacks.

Will post a description for him later.

Frozen_Feet

2011-03-14, 05:53 PM

Oh? What is it?

Completely unrelated:

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs24/f/2008/003/e/b/Nibi_MSpaint_lolz_by_myXpokemans.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btPJPFnesV4)

Kuroimaken

2011-03-14, 06:40 PM

Neat.

Also, accepting suggestions for Kagami's current seat and division. I'm thinking 11th is too physical for the guy, and Onmitsukido might be a little... shady for him.

The Librarian

2011-03-14, 06:46 PM

There were no catchy suggestions, so there is not title. Infact, there were no suggestions.

Yours does not count. :smalltongue:

B-but I uh-*sigh* I'm gonna just sit down.

Frozen_Feet

2011-03-14, 06:52 PM

Kuroimaken

2011-03-14, 07:00 PM

So Kagami's zanpakuto is effectively a fairy from Legend of Zelda? ("HEY! LISTEN!") I'm a bit leery on the fluff surrounding it's current state, but you could just say it's an inconvenient unconventional constant release resulting from am arrogance-induced screw up.

Maybe 13th? I'd love to have a new guy for Hachirou to boss around... maybe have his transfer happen on-screen when the Kujo plot start to cool down?

Well, I don't see a problem with calling it a "constant release", though in this case, what basically happened is that because of his screw-up he has a fairy instead of a sword.

KnightDisciple

2011-03-14, 07:03 PM

13th could work; he could satisfy his father, but still use his medical knowledge. Because field medics are never, ever a bad thing.

Kuroimaken

2011-03-14, 07:05 PM

Yeah, the theme I'm going for with this guy is "how to learn to live for yourself instead of others".

EDIT: Also considering calling him Tsukikage Shishiou instead of Tsukikage Kagami, since Shishiou sounds more like the name a militaristic man would give his son.

Frozen_Feet

2011-03-14, 07:28 PM

Well, I don't see a problem with calling it a "constant release", though in this case, what basically happened is that because of his screw-up he has a fairy instead of a sword.

Shouldn't be a problem, since constant release is whatever the Shikai is, and the Shikai doesn't need to be a sword.

"Imagine how it'd be like if I was constant release! Wouldn't that just be fun?"

Kuroimaken

2011-03-14, 08:12 PM

Wonder what is it about some of your characters loving to make others around them feel uncomfortable, Frozen. :smalltongue:

Frozen_Feet

2011-03-14, 08:14 PM

I have no idea who or what you might be talking about. *whistles innocently*

Kuroimaken

2011-03-14, 09:35 PM

You sure you want me to go there? :smallbiggrin:

Excuse me while I go dig out Patient 1864's entry to upload it to the registry...

EDIT: Uploaded.

KerfuffleMach2

2011-03-14, 10:24 PM

So Draken...just checking...is Clovis still holding on to Ivaz?

Draken

2011-03-14, 10:29 PM

No, he is not. He let her go to aim a cero at her face.

KerfuffleMach2

2011-03-14, 10:39 PM

Ah, okay. Just wanted to make sure.

Kuroimaken

2011-03-15, 01:49 PM

Introducing: Private Saltamontes!

Oh, this'll be fun.

Kuroimaken

2011-03-15, 09:59 PM

ZA SHEIMERESU PURAGU!! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10564707#post10564707)

KnightDisciple

2011-03-15, 10:03 PM

:smallconfused: I have no idea what this is.

Kuroimaken

2011-03-15, 10:08 PM

Basically, you take the Warring States period of Japan.

Then you take the major players in it and ask a crack addict to design them as videogame characters.

The result is Sengoku Basara.

EDIT: Granted, it'd probably attract more attention if I had Kasuga pics.

Draken

2011-03-15, 10:20 PM

Also, Clovis is in my last post in the character registry.

HirokatsuGoto

2011-03-15, 10:29 PM

draken,
what are "royal envoys"?

are you playing all of them?

where did this come from?

almost espada level?

im just confused...can you explain a bit more...maybe im dumb and just dont get it

Draken

2011-03-15, 10:41 PM

tgva8889

2011-03-15, 10:41 PM

Sorry I haven't posted like I promised, my girlfriend kinda distracted me a bit...Anyways, I will do that before I go to sleep tonight.

The Librarian

2011-03-15, 11:37 PM

Royal envoys are minor characters I use in ten espada courts, they are Von Geister's eyes and ears in the palaces of the espada since... Well, he's not the psionic atrocity of the first game. All of them are fraccion class, as is Clovis, as stated in pretty clear words in his "powers" entry, I believe.

Each of the envoys is a drone, a hollow, menos, arrancar, shinigami or even a mortal who was consumed by one of Renee's broodlings, they are Von Geister's sons and daughters.

Yes, I am playing all of them. Mostly only when called upon, however. Like I said, minor characters.

Ah, poor von Geister. He'll never be the same hybrid of the Elder Spawns, and every movie/some anime characters that are the definition of evil and insanity all in one embodiment. That said I think the new von Geister is just as menacing.

In other news: It would appear activity in Soul Society has come to a stand still.

riccaru

2011-03-16, 12:34 AM

So should we just skip over the Suzume arrest, or does someone want to play that out? I think all there is now is to wait for tenth and take her away. If we do skip, and anyone wants to play the arresting officer then just let me know.

Frozen_Feet

2011-03-16, 10:55 AM

As a notice, I have a camp upcoming for the weekend, and I think tomorrow will largely be consumed in organizing it as well. So I might not post for a while. Apologies to all people who are or will be waiting for me. I hope to see lots of new posts when I come back. :smallwink:

Also, since Kasanip will be busy, it would be kind of someone to ask what she would like to happen to her characters while she's gone. Mainly, whether she wants Kazari to still be kidnapped.

Callos_DeTerran

2011-03-16, 11:02 AM

Heck, I'm still hoping that people will want to play members of Michiko's gang, if only temporarily.

The Librarian

2011-03-16, 12:25 PM

"What the devil?" Kazuma explains past his pipe. He's a-puffin', naturally.

"Can anyone explain to me what's going on here?" He asks one of the Shinigami that seems relatively less busy.

Where is Kazuma?

Kuroimaken

2011-03-16, 12:27 PM

Well, he's probably arriving at the site relatively late since he wasn't using Shunpo. As for where exactly, it's hard to say.

The Librarian

2011-03-16, 12:34 PM

Well depending on where Kazuma came from Misaki may be nearby, you could ask her, though IC she doesn't really know whats going on aside from the fact that she's been ordered to setup a Kido Barrier.

Also, whats Kazuma's rank and division?

Kuroimaken

2011-03-16, 01:25 PM

7th seat, 11th division.

HirokatsuGoto

2011-03-16, 01:42 PM

I have Taro (3rd Seat, 10th Division)...he just arrived at the Maggots Nest collapse

So should we just skip over the Suzume arrest, or does someone want to play that out? I think all there is now is to wait for tenth and take her away. If we do skip, and anyone wants to play the arresting officer then just let me know.

The Librarian

2011-03-16, 04:21 PM

I'm having a bit of a dilemma here:

I can't decide if I should keep the concept I thought of for my third character missing his right arm, and it being replaced with a prosthetic.

Thoughts?

Frozen_Feet

2011-03-16, 04:27 PM

Throw a die.

tgva8889

2011-03-16, 05:37 PM

Heck, I'm still hoping that people will want to play members of Michiko's gang, if only temporarily.

I'd do it if you don't mind my ridiculously slow post rate.

The Librarian

2011-03-16, 06:05 PM

Throw a die.

I guess I could flip a coin or something.

*Flips Coin*

Heads = Prosthetic Arm
Tails = No Prosthetic Arm

*Coin lands on side*

...FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!

Okay I'm srsly gonna go roll a 6 die now.

HirokatsuGoto

2011-03-17, 12:03 PM

so...what are we "allowed" to do at the Maggot's Nest scene? (I have 3rd seat Taro, of 10th Division)

can we fight escaping prisoners? do we just wander around? i appreciate the scene setting that FF did...but i am at a loss for what to do since this is a reaction to something which i am not in control of.

i have no problem having a little NPC RP fight for my own character (and maybe some NPC 10th Squad members)...i just need to know the parameters so it works with the larger story

PS...

I am waiting on Callos to respond in Hueco Mundo (Genoveva) for Yaago,
and in Soul Society (Osamu) for Hirokatsu,

then in Mortal World Strawberry (Viatrix) for Izanagi

tgva8889

2011-03-17, 02:16 PM

You can (and should) fight/capture prisoners, help beaten or hurt wardens, or help deal with the rubble. The only thing you can't do is mess with Taiki or Hannibal.

HirokatsuGoto

2011-03-17, 02:37 PM

how should the prisoners act? what kind of power should they have? obviously no zanpaktuo, but maybe kido? can they shunpo? are they shackled? long exposure to seki seki have any long term effects?

You can (and should) fight/capture prisoners, help beaten or hurt wardens, or help deal with the rubble. The only thing you can't do is mess with Taiki or Hannibal.

Kuroimaken

2011-03-17, 02:40 PM

At least as far as Kazuma is concerned, Frozen is supposed to RP my opponent(s). :smalltongue:

I dunno about anyone else.

tgva8889

2011-03-17, 04:58 PM

There are apparently no long-term effects for seki-seki exposure, as otherwise someone would have some of them. I think someone else probably knows better than me about that.

Prisoners should be able to do whatever they could do in normal life. Most are bound with the same shackles used in canon that block reiatsu, but some could have broken free in the cave-in. Make up your own ideas. Anyone is free to play Prisoners if they have nothing else to do. There should be minimal escapees, however.

Shades of Gray

2011-03-17, 04:58 PM

Heck, I'm still hoping that people will want to play members of Michiko's gang, if only temporarily.

+1 For emphasis. Yuudai and Michiko does not a gang make!

KnightDisciple

2011-03-17, 09:04 PM

Soul Society post, wherein 8th Division organizes, b******, and Masaru thinks about consequences from the local geographic instability.

InyutheBeatIs

2011-03-17, 09:08 PM

+1 For emphasis. Yuudai and Michiko does not a gang make!

Well, I did have an idea kernel for an Italian Quincy that got drafted into Michiko's gang to pay off his lousy parents' gambling debts...

Not sure that's a good idea though. I might come up with something.

KnightDisciple

2011-03-17, 09:09 PM

Michiko's gang is more of a pseudo-gang; I don't think she's got more than maybe 1 or 2 people who aren't high-school attendees. Though Callos could correct me there.

Your idea sounds like someone who's more in their 20s or so.

Kuroimaken

2011-03-17, 10:15 PM

Well, I did have an idea kernel for an Italian Quincy that got drafted into Michiko's gang to pay off his lousy parents' gambling debts...

Not sure that's a good idea though. I might come up with something.

Huh... reminds me of Hayate no Gotoku, minus improbable child labor as a toddler.

Frozen_Feet

2011-03-17, 10:37 PM

Just one more quick thing about the Nest scene: if you can't think anything for your character to do there, have them go somewhere else.

Not saying this to be rude, but a simple fact is: while there's lot to do at the Nest, lot of it will be awfully boring. It's akin to a natural disaster site, it's not going to get cleared within one day.

There are several characters already headed on the scene with little reason to be there, and all the reason to be away. There are loose plot threads hanging around elsewhere too. It's time to start thinking of "life after the attack", because the event itself is mostly over.

Kuroimaken

2011-03-17, 10:39 PM

Well, Kazuma was pretty much intended to be headed there from the start, even if his role on this thing was meant to be rather temporary.

tgva8889

2011-03-17, 11:31 PM

Anyone looking for something to do not headed to the Nest could meet up with Karashi. I assume most of Soul Society not in 4th, 7th, or 8th is still on patrol right now.

Frozen_Feet

2011-03-18, 04:17 AM

Yay for waking up early once in a century! Got preparations done in time, so I had the time to squeeze that post out. Hopefully it'll help keep you entertained while I'm away.

Wahrheit

2011-03-19, 09:22 PM

Things I've learned about Japan from watching the hilarious movie Samurai Chicks:

Shrine maidens are killed by flying airplane screws, underwater government assassins use ducks atop their heads as camouflage, official news media blames ghosts for gas line fires burning down buildings, and even if your mother is dead she'll still save your life by bringing you to a restaurant owned by an old friend. Also, independence is achieved for your unnamed tiny oppressed kingdom by releasing crazy people to wander Tokyo like zombies.

Vulkan

2011-03-20, 04:30 PM

horngeek

2011-03-20, 05:14 PM

IC posting is slow...

Kuroimaken

2011-03-20, 05:26 PM

Indeed.

Obviously, the solution to this dilemma is violence.

KnightDisciple

2011-03-20, 06:22 PM

Indeed.

Obviously, the solution to this dilemma is violence.*An energy blast knocks Kuroi through 3 walls.

KnightDisciple comes flying in wearing Iron Man armor.*

You rang for violence?

Anyways, I was out for Saturday and most of today. I'm back now.

Hm. Let's see where things stand with my characters...

Kaito: Waiting on things with the Michiko scene
Vicente: Waiting on Talon to respond
Yoshi: Kind of in limbo, basically waiting on someone coming and getting Suzume
Masaru: Metaphorically tied up in the Maggot's Nest scene
Josiah:...Actually, he's free.

riccaru

2011-03-20, 06:43 PM

*An energy blast knocks Kuroi through 3 walls.

KnightDisciple comes flying in wearing Iron Man armor.*

You rang for violence?

Anyways, I was out for Saturday and most of today. I'm back now.

Hm. Let's see where things stand with my characters...

Kaito: Waiting on things with the Michiko scene
Vicente: Waiting on Talon to respond
Yoshi: Kind of in limbo, basically waiting on someone coming and getting Suzume
Masaru: Metaphorically tied up in the Maggot's Nest scene
Josiah:...Actually, he's free.

*Gets the magnets from wild wild west and throws it past KD*

Suzume is waiting for someone to come get her, Akio's tied up, Nao is heading to second to watch the nest for escapees.

In HM, Sereg is free

MW: Aell is free, walking with Cassandra. Yoko is free and walking the streets, and Alexander is in the woods.

Shades of Gray

2011-03-20, 06:52 PM

What my characters are currently doing:

Paramonos: Serving as a mobile Pico-Platform.
Gwen: Last seen entering Hueco Mundo, not doing anything.
Yuudai: Being a total ninja at the poolside.
Asuka: Last seen in class, not doing anything.
Eirene: Last seen...? Not doing anything.
Anita: Last seen playing Tonsil Hockey with Edward, seriously regretting that decision. In her room, not doing anything.

If anyone wants to get some RP going, don't hesitate to ask.

Kuroimaken

2011-03-20, 07:01 PM

Rouga: Simultaneously waiting to be hit by Tick-Tock AND training Pico in the future. Also, Private Saltamontes is rockin' his evaluation. (I hope.)
Serazel: Looking into getting Mei a wheelchair and a chat with Viatrix.
Soushi: establishing alibis Supporting the Catch-a-Suzume foundation.
Kazuma: Still waiting on that scripted escapee.
Hasunaga: Smoking like he obviously shouldn't. Otherwise unoccupied.
Reiji: Waiting on his investigators to return so he can properly put the squeeze on Michiko's uncle. (Which reminds me: details must be arranged about it.)

strawberryman

2011-03-20, 07:29 PM

On Hueco Mundo, waiting for the effect of Carina's cero to be resolved.

Waiting for Michiko to press on in the MW. Also Serazel and Mei to visit Vi's store.

Will get to other posts soonish, been sorta preoccupied.

tgva8889

2011-03-21, 12:55 AM

Sorry I'm not posting much right now again due to vacationing. Will try to post as much as possible these few days.

Kuroimaken

2011-03-21, 09:30 PM

For the record, the fastest ascent of Mt. Everest took 16h53 min. from Camp III to the summit. It was a solo effort, with no oxygen tanks, on the hardest trail.

However, Mt. Everest is considered the "easiest" of the 8000m+ mountains of the world.

Kasanip

2011-03-21, 10:03 PM

I will still try to play, am sorry for no posting to players.m(__)m

About Kazari: Of course to be captured, to reveal nature in defense of her friend, she can become necklace so it is not interrupt of play.Of course what is Horngeek's opinion?(¨)

Of Sayaka being support character, only it is to be a conversation and the discovery with new senior Michiko and classmates.

Kuroimaken

2011-03-21, 10:05 PM

*offers Kasanip hug and cookies*

Tests being a problem there?

Kasanip

2011-03-21, 10:14 PM

*offers Kasanip hug and cookies*

Tests being a problem there?

Sorry, a message was made in art thread, but no time to make a post.m(__)m
Because of earthquake and tsunami, my relatives came to live my family. So it is busy time and I don't know future.

Kuroimaken

2011-03-21, 10:30 PM

:smallfrown:

I hope for all the best, Kasanip. At least they're alive and well.

InyutheBeatIs

2011-03-21, 10:43 PM

*idles along*

*suddenly sees the name of who posted the latest post*

*flies in at about 80 miles per hour*

Kasanip! I'm glad to know you and your family are alright.

@Kuroimaken: Well, thing is, I'm guessing the people that made that ascent were in peak physical condition. Peak physical condition is something that Pico does not possess at the moment. In fact, he doesn't even posess both of his arms. :smalltongue:

horngeek

2011-03-22, 01:19 AM

Frozen_Feet

2011-03-22, 05:01 AM

I think it's for Kazari to turn into a necklace while attempting to protect Chiyo from kidnappers.

Wait list:

Characters not currently doing anything: Mihail, Zamiel, Hachirou, Post-san, Nasumi

Sayuri: waiting for Ryouichi's reply.
Himura Michiko: waiting for Seiko's and Karite's conversation to end..
Hannibal: waiting on Taiki.
Elder: waiting for Sora in Episode 6.
Lalita: doing this and that with Canguro, waiting for Edward to come back or for Zerkai to post something.

@Inyu and Kuroi: The real irony here is that if Pico was in top condition, he could probably walk across the air and reach the top in one, two hours, tops. :smalltongue: Hopefully Eddie will deliver the letter soon enough so Pico can feel even more indignant about the big bad evil guy who is Lalita. :smallbiggrin:

Kuroimaken

2011-03-22, 07:36 AM

Actually... not THIS mountain.

Have I mentioned that Rouga is the training sergeant from HELL?

Wahrheit

2011-03-22, 06:29 PM

Kasanip: I'm glad to hear that you and your family are okay!

Magatsu is on his way to Maggot's Nest to help out there. Not that he'll likely be much help, since his abilities are more focused towards killing people and less towards apprehending them. Chances are he'll give up and go help coordinate Third's repair efforts.

Rex is all by his lonesome, as is Shou, and Asdrubal is lurking and waiting for his chance to be an evil bastard.

Cha-Cha is sparkling on the sidelines.

KerfuffleMach2

2011-03-22, 07:46 PM

Hey, like to apologize for lack of recent posting. Been getting a huge amount of hours at work recently, and only been half-awake when at home.

Should get a post in Hueco Mundo up tonight, if not tomorrow.

Kasanip

2011-03-23, 07:21 AM

That could happen... sorry, but I'm not sure what exactly your idea is.

I think it's for Kazari to turn into a necklace while attempting to protect Chiyo from kidnappers.

I am sorry for the mistake. It was to mean this idea. :smallredface:

Frozen_Feet

2011-03-23, 07:42 AM

Sayaka is sneaky. :smallbiggrin:

Kuroimaken

2011-03-23, 09:08 AM

Why do I sense that after reading that letter, Pico is gonna climb that mountain with his TEETH if he has to?

Frozen_Feet

2011-03-23, 09:10 AM

"That's the intent."

The Librarian

2011-03-25, 09:36 PM

*A Dustball rolls along the lonely road of BleachITP Reborn*

KnightDisciple

2011-03-25, 09:41 PM

Yeah, I dunno what's going on.

riccaru

2011-03-25, 09:45 PM

Yeah, I dunno what's going on.

Well, I've been tossing ideas around my head about having Sereg visit the Mortal world for a bit. I'm waiting for someone in every other situation though... If it's all right with you and Strawberry then I'd like to wrap up episode 6 relatively soon, so we don't need to worry about that.

The Librarian

2011-03-25, 09:48 PM

Well I guess you could say everyone is kind of waiting on FF and Strawberry to post before they can really do anything.

KnightDisciple

2011-03-25, 09:49 PM

Callos as well.

EDIT:
Well, I've been tossing ideas around my head about having Sereg visit the Mortal world for a bit. I'm waiting for someone in every other situation though... If it's all right with you and Strawberry then I'd like to wrap up episode 6 relatively soon, so we don't need to worry about that.That's fine by me; is there anything in particular you want/need to have happen?

tgva8889

2011-03-26, 02:03 AM

*sigh* Sorry. I will probably step to the background after I get my characters out of the spotlight for plots currently underway. Still sorry about this. I'm finding that my school and personal life make this so much harder than I expected. I'm still gonna play, but I should not have allowed myself to get into the position where I post once every 2 weeks.

Frozen_Feet

2011-03-27, 11:07 AM

Wait list:

Characters not currently doing anything: Mihail, Zamiel, Hachirou, Post-san, Nasumi

Sayuri: waiting for Ryouichi's reply.
Himura Michiko: waiting for Seiko's and Karite's conversation to end..
Hannibal: waiting on Taiki.
Elder: waiting for Sora in Episode 6.
Lalita: doing this and that with Canguro, waiting for Edward to come back or for Zerkai to post something.

Not much has changed. I have few ideas to nudge the game forward, but I can't implement them before people I'm waiting for make an appearance.

InyutheBeatIs

2011-03-27, 08:11 PM

Sorry I haven't been posting. It's been a somewhat rough couple of days recently.

Kuroimaken

2011-03-27, 10:40 PM

Have some fictional chocolate chip cookies.

InyutheBeatIs

2011-03-27, 10:42 PM

Thank you. Thank you very much. :smallsmile:

HirokatsuGoto

2011-03-28, 10:22 AM

So what is Arcelia and Lalita up to?

Yaago wants to come and check on them per the Primera's orders

suggestions?

Kuroimaken

2011-03-28, 10:28 AM

They're riding a dinosaur, naturally.

Terry576

2011-03-28, 10:29 AM

Yeah, I'll be able to post again in about 2 days.

Sorry for the wait, I've been on vacation with terribad internet.

Frozen_Feet

2011-03-28, 10:58 AM

So what is Arcelia and Lalita up to?

Yaago wants to come and check on them per the Primera's orders

suggestions?

No-one knows what Arcelia is up to - she's missing, completely off the radar. Her position as an Espada is in process of being revoked.

Lalita is hiding. Edward is the sole person Yaago could ask who actually knows where.

HirokatsuGoto

2011-03-28, 01:05 PM

is there anyone who last saw either of them? is anyone at the proving grounds now? i just need a little something to go on

I am fine with going to Edward...though i know he doesnt like Yaago

I just am not sure i would KNOW to go to him...still if no real reason..i know he is smart so i could go to him...

do we have a plot reason why Arcelia is gone?

I just want to bring something back to the Primera...maybe it can help move along said "process for revoke"

Aaron

No-one knows what Arcelia is up to - she's missing, completely off the radar. Her position as an Espada is in process of being revoked.

Lalita is hiding. Edward is the sole person Yaago could ask who actually knows where.

Callos_DeTerran

2011-03-28, 02:17 PM

is there anyone who last saw either of them? is anyone at the proving grounds now? i just need a little something to go on

I am fine with going to Edward...though i know he doesnt like Yaago

I just am not sure i would KNOW to go to him...still if no real reason..i know he is smart so i could go to him...

do we have a plot reason why Arcelia is gone?

I just want to bring something back to the Primera...maybe it can help move along said "process for revoke"

Aaron

Lalita used to be Edward's Fraccion so he would be the one to go to in order to ask about Lalita (in my mind anyway) and, for information about the Tres Espada position I'd suggest going to talk to Clovis since Draken's dialogue suggest he's stood in as an interim Espada multiple times nd people would know that.

Kuroimaken

2011-03-28, 05:31 PM

Tercera, not Tres. Tercera denotes position, Tres denotes number.

Callos_DeTerran

2011-03-28, 05:58 PM

I know what I typed. :smalltongue:

Kuroimaken

2011-03-28, 06:24 PM

Fair enough. Have a plushie.

Dorizzit

2011-03-28, 06:26 PM

I know what I typed. :smalltongue:

:smalleek:

Draken

2011-03-28, 06:28 PM

Nobody knows what happened to Arcelia. One day she was there, the other there was an interin.

The Proving Ground that Clovis is using is also not a particularly open or public area. It is more of a dome made on the spot from the foundations of Las Noches (a thick layer of living hollow bone that gives sustentation to the structures of the city).

Dorizzit

2011-03-28, 06:58 PM

The Proving Ground that Clovis is using is also not a particularly open or public area. It is more of a dome made on the spot from the foundations of Las Noches (a thick layer of living hollow bone that gives sustentation to the structures of the city).

Is it shielded from Pesquisa?

Draken

2011-03-28, 07:41 PM

No, but the foundations are relatively deep and have their own weak but pervasive reiatsu.

Frozen_Feet

2011-03-29, 06:36 AM

Ummm... one question about Rouga's mountain:

Is it supposed to be inside Las Noches? Because Pico referred to a sunset but... there is no sun out in the sands. It's always night, with that strange moon looming overhead.

Because if it is inside Las Noches, the dome must be higher than 12 km, which I personally find hard to believe.

KnightDisciple

2011-03-29, 07:15 AM

Okay, I need some outside help to figure out of there are cultural differences fueling this post (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10656097&postcount=274). Because I am genuinely confused.

Kaito isn't "attacking everyone else". Unless "giving a different opinion in the form of a logical counter-point in as calm of a manner as possible" is suddenly equal to "attack". I've repeatedly noted how calm he is, how he's going for the calm, logical approach, and so on.

But Kaito had so far attacked Ken, Kina, Sayaka's father, Sayaka and Michiko sempai.
Sayaka's Father: I thought we all understood that much of that was driven by a cultural misunderstanding? That that whole incident (which was also one of calm debate, rather than heated insults and verbal attacks) was created because I was approaching from an American viewpoint that saw the scene as one of a teacher speaking to students; a setup wherein (in America, at least at higher education levels) the student isn't just allowed, but sometimes encouraged to ask questions, even radical questions.
Sayaka: I'm having trouble remembering how he would have "attacked" her, unless Kasanip is referring to the post I just made, where he simply states that shutting up and not getting this nailed down would be risking his life (at least in his eyes).
Kina: Um....this one makes even less sense. He calmly disagreed with "let's just be friends and not worry about this". He never, not once, "attacked" her.
Michiko: He only disagreed on the point of her being leader. He readily agreed with the rest of the proposal. Also note that when he lists the "chain of command", Michiko is right behind Nakahiro in that line. Which means he does think she has the potential to lead. So again, I'm missing the "attack", unless we're looking at the first couple of posts in the scene, where he's angry because of a fake love letter.
Ken: The only one I see the potential for "attack" in, he's still been working to stick to counterpoints rather than insults. He made that "melodrama-sama" quote, but that's the height of it.

What gets my goat more is that Ken, who's clearly being a.)needlessly melodramatic, and b.)is clearly working more actively to get a negative emotional response out of Kaito (via things like "he's too stupid to see I'm sarcastic, even though the guy writing my posts is giving absolutely no cues of any kind in my post that I'm anything but 100% serious"), he's just "annoying and sometimes a liar". But Kaito, who's working hard to remain dispassionate and present what he sees as a vital subject for the survival of himself and his friends, is suddenly some big villain. Why? Because I'm confused, and a little annoyed, at this point. It seems a bit unfair that Kaito is painted as a villain and Ken's just "some annoying guy".

Kuroimaken

2011-03-29, 07:41 AM

Frozen_Feet

2011-03-29, 08:26 AM

Okay, I need some outside help to figure out of there are cultural differences fueling this post (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10656097&postcount=274). Because I am genuinely confused.

I think I mentioned this to you earlier, but Kaito's been feeling to me like a bear shot in the ass for a while now. That coming from a non-japanese point of view.

From a japanese point of view, Kaito's been acting in a very impolite manner - too blunt, too straightforward, and too challenging. Less what he's done or said, more how he's done and said it. To a more traditional person (like Sayaka), it would make him very abrasive person.

Think of it this way: in real world, not everyone likes dealing with people who are as upfront. Kaito might not mean to be offending, but that doesn't prevent him from being so to people who have different attitudes and personalities.

Don't take it as an attack against yourself or your character. Clash of personalities is something that happens when prior strangers are suddenly made to act together. Not everyone likes everybody, and a group can very well be unfair towards someone with little to no reason.

Consider the bright sides: you can use this observation to fuel the story. You've noted Kaito is being misunderstood and treated unfairly, and are annoyed and confused due to that, so ask yourself - can he notice he's being misunderstood and treated unfairly? Does he have reasons to be annoyed, confused, etc.?

In character reactions are what drives the game. Overall, I don't think there's reason to settle this "dispute" out-of-character.

Kuroimaken

2011-03-29, 08:32 AM

Speaking as someone who often faces the same kind of criticism Kaito does, I can understand where KD is coming from. He's being practical, upfront and generally loose-lipped with his opinions - I've found that unless you seek to present yourself as clearly respecting people's opinions you come across as a bit of an ass. My motto in that regard is as follows: "You're entitled to your opinion. Just don't expect me to believe it's right because it's an opinion; they're not born equal or based on the same facets of reality."

Kasanip

2011-03-29, 09:00 AM

I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. 喧嘩 I thought it can be said in English language "fight" of this meaning.

It is not my opinion of the post. It is to be Sayaka's opinion. It is RP character opinion only.:smallredface: I will try to answer questions:

Sayaka's Father: I thought we all understood that much of that was driven by a cultural misunderstanding? That that whole incident (which was also one of calm debate, rather than heated insults and verbal attacks) was created because I was approaching from an American viewpoint that saw the scene as one of a teacher speaking to students; a setup wherein (in America, at least at higher education levels) the student isn't just allowed, but sometimes encouraged to ask questions, even radical questions.
Sayaka's view of this was to show in earlier post. Maybe it was not seen (>< ):here (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10648112&postcount=269)

When they were at the Shrine, to work together also had gone poorly. Though the reason was the fault of Watanabe Kaito to have the disagreement with her father.
She thinks it is Kaito's fault why Shrine things went badly. Maybe already they would all be friends and to work together if it was good, she thinks. Maybe she wonders if Kaito also will ruin this meeting (she starts to feel he is).

Sayaka: I'm having trouble remembering how he would have "attacked" her, unless Kasanip is referring to the post I just made, where he simply states that shutting up and not getting this nailed down would be risking his life (at least in his eyes).
He gives cool gaze and ignores her asking to stop arguing with Ken. Arguing with Ken is not important, Sayaka thinks. She thinks Ken is just to have fight with Kaito. When she ask to stop, Ken stopped, but Kaito said "No" to Sayaka. So maybe it will continue, she thinks.

Also he ignores earlier her in his thought of organize team. To Sayaka, it is unfair she thinks because she knows more than he does of this kind of thing she thinks. Of course also she had similar thought at shrine too at meeting when Kaito says comment too.
Maybe she thinks Kaito dislikes people- she does not know him, and always he has 'cool' or 'logic' and ignore 'emotion'. He says teamwork is important, but ignores friends opinions. I hope Sayaka and Kaito can become friend so this maybe changes.

Maybe a little of Sayaka's character too, because often she had similar always neutral expression in opinion like Kaito. But she doesn't like it. To see Kaito ignore everyone's opinion, it isn't good she thinks. Sayaka is changing one step and one step to be more open to other character. It is frustration of "Emotion" and "Logic" maybe.
Of course, they are first year students, so it can be understand I think. :smallredface:

Kina: Um....this one makes even less sense. He calmly disagreed with "let's just be friends and not worry about this". He never, not once, "attacked" her.
Kaito had disagreement with Kina at the shrine. Kaito also ignore Kina now also. Sayaka had same opinion of Kina both times also, and Kina saved Sayaka recently, and to think Kina also is scared of arguments. So Sayaka is upset of Kaito to be rude to Kina's wishes. Even if Kaito has good reason, it is not to consider Kina's feelings, Sayaka thinks.

Maybe I think you have agree of this: Kaito thinks even if it is argument and uncomfortable, it must be done in this style now, because life and death situation.

Sayaka disagrees and does not want Kina to be uncomfortable. Kina has had lot of stress recently, maybe Kaito doesn't know. But he does not try to also. So Sayaka thinks Kaito doesn't think of others' feelings.

Michiko: He only disagreed on the point of her being leader. He readily agreed with the rest of the proposal. Also note that when he lists the "chain of command", Michiko is right behind Nakahiro in that line. Which means he does think she has the potential to lead. So again, I'm missing the "attack", unless we're looking at the first couple of posts in the scene, where he's angry because of a fake love letter.
I am confused. You agree he was angry at her? So it is the same thing I think. It was not friendly at the beginning. Maybe it is not supposed to be friendly (and for Michiko plot, I think so too!). But of course, Sayaka does not know how ending is. She hopes everyone can make agreement now and everyone can be safe. Even she is willing to trust Michiko senior (but unsure why because of memories gone- and maybe she is wrong also. But it is her belief.).

Kaito says Michiko does not have qualification, but to suggest Nakahiro who is good at board games and kendo. Sayaka thinks of all the character, Sayaka has most experience in this, and even Sayaka doesn't do well, and has no self-confidence after recent attack of hollow. So Nakahiro or Michiko combat skill is not useful qualification, she thinks. But Michiko is class representative and senior, so has some experience of leadership. It is better than play board games. But Nakahiro makes good speech, so Sayaka wants two to work together.

Ken: The only one I see the potential for "attack" in, he's still been working to stick to counterpoints rather than insults. He made that "melodrama-sama" quote, but that's the height of it.

What gets my goat more is that Ken, who's clearly being a.)needlessly melodramatic, and b.)is clearly working more actively to get a negative emotional response out of Kaito (via things like "he's too stupid to see I'm sarcastic, even though the guy writing my posts is giving absolutely no cues of any kind in my post that I'm anything but 100% serious"), he's just "annoying and sometimes a liar". But Kaito, who's working hard to remain dispassionate and present what he sees as a vital subject for the survival of himself and his friends, is suddenly some big villain. Why?
I don't understand Ken very much I think, like cucumbers and such a talk. But I think I make mistake of many characters to understand. (I don't understand goat also? Sorry m(_ _)m )

But a fight is 2 people I think. Ken also to make mistakes and maybe start argument with Kaito. But when Sayaka asked them to stop, Ken agreed and stopped, not Kaito. Ken at least, is to consider other feelings. If it is true what he said. Sayaka is not sure if he said true (she say he is sometimes a liar). She is annoyed of Ken too of course. But he stopped. Kaito didn't stop.
With other reasons, of course Kaito does not seem very nice. He's not listening.

I hope it explains thoughts of Sayaka.:smallredface: I am sorry it was difficult and maybe many mistakes. (>< )

Dorizzit

2011-03-29, 09:38 AM

Okay, I need some outside help to figure out of there are cultural differences fueling this post (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10656097&postcount=274). Because I am genuinely confused.

Kaito isn't "attacking everyone else". Unless "giving a different opinion in the form of a logical counter-point in as calm of a manner as possible" is suddenly equal to "attack". I've repeatedly noted how calm he is, how he's going for the calm, logical approach, and so on.

Sayaka's Father: I thought we all understood that much of that was driven by a cultural misunderstanding? That that whole incident (which was also one of calm debate, rather than heated insults and verbal attacks) was created because I was approaching from an American viewpoint that saw the scene as one of a teacher speaking to students; a setup wherein (in America, at least at higher education levels) the student isn't just allowed, but sometimes encouraged to ask questions, even radical questions.
Sayaka: I'm having trouble remembering how he would have "attacked" her, unless Kasanip is referring to the post I just made, where he simply states that shutting up and not getting this nailed down would be risking his life (at least in his eyes).
Kina: Um....this one makes even less sense. He calmly disagreed with "let's just be friends and not worry about this". He never, not once, "attacked" her.
Michiko: He only disagreed on the point of her being leader. He readily agreed with the rest of the proposal. Also note that when he lists the "chain of command", Michiko is right behind Nakahiro in that line. Which means he does think she has the potential to lead. So again, I'm missing the "attack", unless we're looking at the first couple of posts in the scene, where he's angry because of a fake love letter.
Ken: The only one I see the potential for "attack" in, he's still been working to stick to counterpoints rather than insults. He made that "melodrama-sama" quote, but that's the height of it.

What gets my goat more is that Ken, who's clearly being a.)needlessly melodramatic, and b.)is clearly working more actively to get a negative emotional response out of Kaito (via things like "he's too stupid to see I'm sarcastic, even though the guy writing my posts is giving absolutely no cues of any kind in my post that I'm anything but 100% serious"), he's just "annoying and sometimes a liar". But Kaito, who's working hard to remain dispassionate and present what he sees as a vital subject for the survival of himself and his friends, is suddenly some big villain. Why? Because I'm confused, and a little annoyed, at this point. It seems a bit unfair that Kaito is painted as a villain and Ken's just "some annoying guy".

I've also been seeing Kaito as being highly confrontational. I think part of the problem is how much arguing he does with everyone; he has been part of most of the disagreements. He can also be quite dismissive (or at least it feels that way to me) of other characters and their opinions, which doesn't help any. Obviously this isn't what you are intending to do, but that's the way it's coming off.

Kuroimaken

2011-03-29, 10:02 AM

Coming to think of it, I would actually rather the kids disagree about this. It gives Hasunaga something to do when Big Bad Training Time comes.

Frozen_Feet

2011-03-29, 10:04 AM

Considering the kids aren't supposed to team up yet, and are supposed to need kidnapping of their close one as a catalyst to do just that, all is going fiiiine. :smalltongue:

nothingclever

2011-03-29, 10:37 AM

I don't understand Ken very much I think, like cucumbers and such a talk. But I think I make mistake of many characters to understand. (I don't understand goat also? Sorry m(_ _)m )
This comment made me smile. Cool as a cucumber is just a saying that means being composed, unflappable, calm, etc.

Right now he's acting silly while being sincere. He jokes around because he figures no one can really know who would make a good leader since the characters know little about each other unless they've been friends before coming to this school. Even if they've known each other for a good chunk of time they still might not have a good grasp of how each person acts under pressure or in a leadership position. He's also kidding around because none of them have impressive qualifications. In addition he thinks that although their decisions could determine whether they live or die they aren't in a life or death situation right now so they can afford to be lighthearted to some degree while talking things out as long as they act seriously in the long run. Finally he questions the need for a leader when they could just try to become super well coordinated. He figures a willingness to lead and good character/virtues/personality is what really matters.

He thinks he has a good personality despite not showing it at the moment and he's willing to lead.

He sincerely doesn't want to upset Kina or Sayaka.

If you're wondering why he speaks so dramatically at times, that's because he likes to imitate anime/manga. If a fellow student were to threaten to beat him up he might respond with something cliche like "You must be sick of life!" Better yet he might say "Wash your neck and wait!" If he wanted to be really silly he'd slip a letter of challenge into his locker and not show up to the designated meeting place or claim he was the school's banchō despite the fact that it might be nearly entirely delinquent free and just about no one referring to themselves as such.

When Sayaka says:

"It's like I'm just a hole in all of this. I'm empty and a void. I'm no different than the hollow. It's like I have no connection to the world! Why?

What happened to me?"

he just can't resist being cliche so he says things like this (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10365642&postcount=80).
Merely saying many people care about her including him isn't any fun. Plus he meant what he said so why shouldn't he say it?

I don't mind if all the other characters think of mine as a goof.

Ammutseba

2011-03-29, 03:01 PM

So, if I want to get a cat rockin' in this jive hop, should I talk about it here, or just drop it in the registry?

Frozen_Feet

2011-03-29, 03:36 PM

Either is fine as long as you notify us there's a new character in town. Be also prepared to wait for a while as we chew over him or her. :smallwink: There's also a new player guide in the wiki. Link is in the first post. :smallsmile:

KnightDisciple

2011-03-29, 06:11 PM

I guess I read too much OOC into the post, especially into words like "attack", which seemed wildly out of proportion. I suppose part of it was the early hour of the morning when I wrote up that post.

Frozen does have a mildly good point in that, technically, we're kind of "going off the rails". Then again, who knows? Maybe other events will cause friction...

Dorizzit

2011-03-29, 09:00 PM

IMO, it isn't a good idea to glue yourself to the rails. Sometimes scenes just develop differently than they were intended to; at that point, at least from my perspective, it's better to let things go from there. Generally it doesn't have a massive effect on the plot one way or another.

Edit: Does anyone know where in the timeline the fight between the students, Hasunaga, and Cassandra was?

Callos_DeTerran

2011-03-29, 10:56 PM

strawberryman

2011-03-29, 11:40 PM

IMO, it isn't a good idea to glue yourself to the rails. Sometimes scenes just develop differently than they were intended to; at that point, at least from my perspective, it's better to let things go from there. Generally it doesn't have a massive effect on the plot one way or another.

This. I'd personally rather something not go as intended than have it feel forced or unnatural.

nothingclever

2011-03-29, 11:53 PM

@Nothing: There actually aren't rumors about Michiko running a gang. Not yet anyway. She's a delinquent, but she's never been seen with a gang. Heck, she avoids hanging out with Yuudai if she can avoid it. XD Doesn't change the content of your post much, just throwing that out there.
Yes it does. I'm not going to have Ken accuse her of trying to make the group into a gang to do her bidding or of recruiting them into a preexisting one instead. If he doesn't have any reason to suspect that she's in a gang besides the rumor that her family is yakuza he's not going to accuse her of gang activity and he's not going to mention the yakuza rumor. Doing that makes him look like a real jerk, especially when she claims a friend of hers just died. I can see the easy retort already. *sob sob* "Yes my dad is a criminal. I didn't choose to be born into such a family. ;_; I'm an honor role student, don't you think that might be because I'm trying to be a good person and not get involved in shady family business? I want to break away from my nogoodnik heritage and start anew. Why do insensitive clods like you keep holding me back?" If any of the kids bring up her parents potentially being criminals to discredit her during the current situation they are automatic jerks.

Callos_DeTerran

2011-03-30, 01:28 AM

Yes it does. I'm not going to have Ken accuse her of trying to make the group into a gang to do her bidding or of recruiting them into a preexisting one instead. If he doesn't have any reason to suspect that she's in a gang besides the rumor that her family is yakuza he's not going to accuse her of gang activity and he's not going to mention the yakuza rumor. Doing that makes him look like a real jerk, especially when she claims a friend of hers just died. I can see the easy retort already. *sob sob* "Yes my dad is a criminal. I didn't choose to be born into such a family. ;_; I'm an honor role student, don't you think that might be because I'm trying to be a good person and not get involved in shady family business? I want to break away from my nogoodnik heritage and start anew. Why do insensitive clods like you keep holding me back?" If any of the kids bring up her parents potentially being criminals to discredit her during the current situation they are automatic jerks.

Well, what I meant is moreso that as a delinquent (who tend to run in gangs in anime/manga, which Ken reads/watches a lot from what I've gathered) and with somewhat hazy relations to crime, making the jump to the fact she's in a gang isn't COMPLETELY unfounded...but it's still a jump and the rumors been started before, just no proof has been found to back it up beyond 'she's a delinquent and her family might be related to crime, makes sense she might be in a gang'. I wasn't trying to dissuade you from saying that, I'm just pointing out that it would partly be conjecture on Ken's part, not a given fact.

Wahrheit

2011-03-30, 07:41 AM

So while I'm waiting for a good time to get Rex involved in things, poor Shou needs some lovin'.

I'm considering having him end up befriending a mortal character, given his innate curiosity. Anyone have ideas for this?

Kuroimaken

2011-03-30, 08:30 AM

Ooo! Ooo! Make him befriend subject 1864!

Frozen_Feet

2011-03-30, 08:44 AM

Edit: Does anyone know where in the timeline the fight between the students, Hasunaga, and Cassandra was?

It fell to the same timeframe as Elder's fight with Mayumi, so evening of Day 1 - I thought I put it in the wiki already.

In any case, any outside effort to sort out the timeline is appreciated! I haven't touched it for a while, so it's missing info of Pico's training (Days 8 and 9, I gather) as well as few other things going around.

Few hanging plot threads that have been bugging me:

- Serazel and Mei. They've been hanging in a weird sort of limbo for a while now. Wasn't there even supposed to be an episode of them and Mayumi?

- Kyou's death, and the destruction in 4th Division overall. It was a PC death, dammit, milk some drama out of it! Daisuke needs to know he unwittingly killed someone. >=D

- Damara. After his fight in Rukon, he seems to have... vanished. Wouldn't mind otherwise, but his division was bombed by Suzume, so his lack of presence is quite conspicious.

- And of course, anything and everything relating to Edge and his characters, but he seems to be gone for good.

nothingclever

2011-03-30, 10:18 AM

Well, what I meant is moreso that as a delinquent (who tend to run in gangs in anime/manga, which Ken reads/watches a lot from what I've gathered) and with somewhat hazy relations to crime, making the jump to the fact she's in a gang isn't COMPLETELY unfounded...but it's still a jump and the rumors been started before, just no proof has been found to back it up beyond 'she's a delinquent and her family might be related to crime, makes sense she might be in a gang'. I wasn't trying to dissuade you from saying that, I'm just pointing out that it would partly be conjecture on Ken's part, not a given fact.
That's fine. I'm just pointing out that I don't want Ken to be a jerk by voicing an allegation no one else has made.

I'll let Kaito do that. :P

Dorizzit

2011-03-30, 11:04 AM

- Damara. After his fight in Rukon, he seems to have... vanished. Wouldn't mind otherwise, but his division was bombed by Suzume, so his lack of presence is quite conspicious.

Did Suzume actually reach the 6th? I thought she was intercepted before she got there.

Damara has been off screen since his fight. He returned to the sixth and retook control from his third seat, and has been waiting to receive any requests for the 6th Division's presence. They can't really do much without being called.

That's fine. I'm just pointing out that I don't want Ken to be a jerk by voicing an allegation no one else has made.

I'll let Kaito do that. :P

Really?

Frozen_Feet

2011-03-30, 01:17 PM

I think the implication was that yes, Suzume did reach 6th at least passingly, and set off a few bombs.

On another note, it's a pity Episode 7 is not going anywhere. ;_;

nothingclever

2011-03-30, 01:45 PM

Really?
Yes really.

KnightDisciple

2011-03-31, 06:53 PM

Even though Kaito (unlike both Nakahiro and Ken) has not utterly dismissed Michiko's bid for leadership? You notice how he's still giving her a chance, in his own way (via asking some questions)? Yeah.

Kuroimaken

2011-03-31, 07:05 PM

By the way, KD? Post with Hinata, NAO. :smalltongue:

nothingclever

2011-03-31, 07:06 PM

KnightDisciple

2011-03-31, 07:09 PM

By the way, KD? Post with Hinata, NAO. :smalltongue:You're as blind as Reiji (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10660583&postcount=276). :smalltongue:

Kuroimaken

2011-03-31, 09:50 PM

Actually, Reiji can probably see better than I do.

KnightDisciple

2011-03-31, 10:21 PM

Actually, Reiji can probably see better than I do.Not for a computer screen, I'd wager.

Kuroimaken

2011-03-31, 11:10 PM

Heh, I don't only miss things on a computer screen. I'm generally pretty bad at noticing certain otherwise obvious details as well... and specially when searching for stuff.

Viera Champion

2011-04-03, 01:23 PM

After a concerned PM from Riccaru I rushed right back here.

Sorry if my absence made you all worried that yet another player had dropped out. I'm back now don't worry!

Ummmmm... I need to get started on all my plots again right...

KnightDisciple

2011-04-03, 04:26 PM

Is there something in particular we need for the scene with the kids at the pool to get moving again? It's been stalled for a couple of days now.

Frozen_Feet

2011-04-03, 04:37 PM

I can have Mihail barge in and shoo the kids away if you can't think of a way to conclude the scene.

The Librarian

2011-04-03, 05:18 PM

Is there something in particular we need for the scene with the kids at the pool to get moving again? It's been stalled for a couple of days now.

Soul Society could use some plot progression too. Or at least some updates.

KnightDisciple

2011-04-03, 05:24 PM

I can have Mihail barge in and shoo the kids away if you can't think of a way to conclude the scene.No, all we need is 1.)maybe a couple more reactions from the other invitees, and b.)Michiko's reaction to at least some of the kids telling her "no, you're not leader".

Frozen_Feet

2011-04-03, 05:26 PM

I'm waiting for Ryouichi and Taiki still.

However, I said this before and feel the need to restate myself: the interesting bits of Maggot's Nest are largely over. It's time for you people to start thinking about life after the invasion.

There was a fire in 4th. I'd like to see more people to react to that.

There are several divisions without Captains, and several characters who could use some Bankai training. I'd like to see some people aspiring for a promotion.

Officer Karashi Ren was announced lost but is just wandering there, all alone. Someone ought to pick him up.

And so on. I'll move Akio's plot and few other things along as soon as Sayuri has filled Ryouichi in on a few things. But I'd rather see people not depending on me to drive the plot forward right now.

The Librarian

2011-04-03, 05:32 PM

There are several divisions without Captains, and several characters who could use some Bankai training. I'd like to see some people aspiring for a promotion.

*Katisugo pops his head through the Forum*

Did someone say promotion?

Seriously, I'd being willing to like say Katisugo does some training to gain his Bankai so, he can apply for Captaincy.

Viera Champion

2011-04-03, 05:47 PM

If I'm gonna get back into posting, I'm guessing I should start with Kyasarin... Since she's the most important.

Anything of interest currently happening in Soul Society.

Frozen_Feet

2011-04-03, 05:49 PM

2nd detained Suzume and I think they're taking her to 10th. Yoshi is being suspicious of Yuuki.

The Librarian

2011-04-03, 05:49 PM

The Maggot's Nest/Invasion thing in Soul Society just ended. Several divisions have buildings that are on fire, or partially destroyed, or something.

horngeek

2011-04-03, 05:53 PM

There was a fire in 4th. I'd like to see more people to react to that.

"So Karinmaru is just 'a fire' now? Nice work on offending him."

Frozen_Feet

2011-04-03, 05:55 PM

For the record, I was more referring to Daisuke blowing up stuff with Kongobaky and causing roof to collapse on poor Kyou, killing her. :smallfrown:

horngeek

2011-04-03, 08:21 PM

:P

So, skip to after the incident for most characters?

tgva8889

2011-04-03, 08:27 PM

I can't pull this off anymore. School is kicking my ass and I'm dealing with balancing so many social issues right now. So I must take a hiatus.

horngeek or Frozen_Feet can control Taiki until this plot is over. After that, please have someone just take the VC seat of 10th and pseudo-run the division until I'm back. I really, really needed a VC.

Frozen_Feet, if you could just get Karashi onto a bed in 4th, unconscious until I get back, that'd be nice.

I'm not sure what to do with Kina, but since she's supposed to get kidnapped soon, is it fine to assume that she just gets kidnapped and isn't involved?

Everyone else isn't doing anything and won't be doing anything important until I get back anyways.

I'll still check the forums every now and again but mentally I'm not really able to perform true roleplaying at this time. Sorry for the inconvenience. I thought I might be able to do it, but clearly I've failed epicly.

KerfuffleMach2

2011-04-03, 08:37 PM

There was a fire in 4th. I'd like to see more people to react to that.

I really need to pay more attention to that thread...yeah, I'll probably get something up tomorrow for it. Not tonight, I'm not gonna be on much longer.

There are several divisions without Captains, and several characters who could use some Bankai training. I'd like to see some people aspiring for a promotion

Hmmm...I could start Alysha with Bankai training, I guess. Trouble is, I need to think up a good Bankai for her.

Eh, I can start on that later.

Oh, also, question for ya, Draken. Are you planning on another post for Ivaz in the Tercera district? Or should I just go ahead and have her arrive back at her place?

The Librarian

2011-04-03, 08:51 PM

Terry576

2011-04-03, 09:17 PM

Silva's did have enough room. I mean, it's not like the place was packed with furniture or anything.

Silva shifts her footing a little, obviously stalling an answer.

Um...well...I guess he could, yeah...if he doesn't have anywhere else to go.

From what FF has told me over AIM, inwardly Yui is squeeing like a fangirl over Silva letting Sora stay with her.

Yui's OTP is Sora/Silva. Nobody knows why, or knows at all.

And nobody ever will.

Kuroimaken

2011-04-03, 09:55 PM

KnightDisciple

2011-04-03, 10:42 PM

Side Note: I've been trying to get CMOTDibbler to log the F*** back onto GITP, so he can be the VC for 10th again. That doesn't look like its happening any time soon though.Far as I'm concerned, unless he shows back up and actually posts regularly, it's easier to say his character was never the 10th VC. He was in, what, one training thread?

Sorry, but it's easier if we don't have to put the baggage of "just got the position" on someone wanting to be 10th VC.

riccaru

2011-04-03, 11:17 PM

Far as I'm concerned, unless he shows back up and actually posts regularly, it's easier to say his character was never the 10th VC. He was in, what, one training thread?

Sorry, but it's easier if we don't have to put the baggage of "just got the position" on someone wanting to be 10th VC.

Unless a lower seat from a different division transfers. I can see quite a few promotions in the near future, some possibly unwanted. Fourth division is completely without active leadership, and I'm pretty sure Kido Corps is too. Having some of the up and coming officers in Seretei fill in the gaps, even temporarily, would be a nice piece of plot for after the invasion. Soldiers go where they're needed, after all.

Frozen_Feet

2011-04-04, 07:42 AM

HirokatsuGoto

2011-04-04, 09:51 AM

hang in there TGVA...

as for Soul Society stuff....

-i am interested in moving Hirokatsu into the 9th Division Captain spot (he is already "acting Cpt" or whatever), he is an old dude and i think his years of service, along with his potential support of the outgoing Cpt, and perhaps Osamu would go far in him getting a recommendation...
-he already has achieved Bankai in his inner world (which i wrote in his character submission from the beginning), he just has yet to make it public or use it outside of that
-im not saying he HAS to be promoted (please dont take this for being egotistical...please), just that i believe i have shown i can RP well enough and am as active as is asked of me

-i think it could be fun to run a "New Captain's Episode" which centered on each of the aspiring Cpts and each of their individual routes towards becoming Cpts

-per TGVA...i have the 10th Division 3rd Seat (Taro..the Sumo guy), he could be up for Vice Captaincy or something and pseudo run the division until TGVA comes back...

Kuroimaken

2011-04-04, 10:39 AM

Tsukikage Shishiou added to the registry. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10700741&postcount=102)

Feel free to plan shenanigans!

riccaru

2011-04-04, 11:10 AM

Yeah, Gotei is in need of some major re-arranging. I suspect a lot of our current Vice-Captains, plus the few 3rd seats we have, would all be reviewed for promotion.

Though I guess the ideal situation would be if we lured in some new players...

I agree, Soul Society's been hit, pretty damn hard considering. Half the divisions have one or less qualified leaders, fourth included which is probably going to be exceptionally needed at this time. I'd be surprised if a few of the up-and-coming seated officers don't get promoted. If you think about it, a few seated officers have done more than some of the captains at this point. They've put their lives on the line and showed they can roll with whatever happens.

The Librarian

2011-04-04, 03:45 PM

I could have Katisugo apply for the 6th Division Captain Seat.

Thoughts?

Dorizzit

2011-04-04, 03:59 PM

Good luck.

Viera Champion

2011-04-04, 08:27 PM

Even if Yuuki wasn't there anymore, Sigint would probably be much more qualified for Captain position than Kyasarin.

KerfuffleMach2

2011-04-04, 09:04 PM

From what FF has told me over AIM, inwardly Yui is squeeing like a fangirl over Silva letting Sora stay with her.

Yui's OTP is Sora/Silva. Nobody knows why, or knows at all.

And nobody ever will.

...

*blinkblink*

...

*opens mouth*

...

*closes mouth*

...

I really have no idea how to respond to that...

riccaru

2011-04-04, 09:24 PM

Three medium-strength pulses fly in from the side, bracketed by a scattering of the low-strength/high-speed pulses.

"It's called a pre-emptive strike. And you were threatening young mortals with no part in your war. If that's not cowardly, I don't know what is. Leave or die."

Nero also said to leave. Now that Akio's trying to leave and incapable of fighting back they're going to gun him down? You guys were saying that Akio's a bad person:smalleek:

Viera Champion

2011-04-04, 09:30 PM

Oh Riccaruuuu! Since you so kindly reminded me that I have posting duties here can we do some more RP with the Shiro plot! He's gonna do the next step in realizing one has soul reaper powers! He's gonna do something cool with Kido!

strawberryman

2011-04-04, 09:32 PM

Nero also said to leave. Now that Akio's trying to leave and incapable of fighting back they're going to gun him down? You guys were saying that Akio's a bad person:smalleek:

When did I ever imply Nero was a good person? In fact I am pretty sure I have established him as a not-good person overall. That is the point of well-intentioned-extremist. Consider the tactical implications of just letting a shinigami who witnessed mortals fighting on nearly equal footing. This of course means that either he needs to be captured or killed. It is practical, ruthless thinking. Nero only argued with Akio because he saw an opportunity to distract and debase him and cause him to slip up. Just because he considers the shinigami worse than he, does not mean that he considers himself a good person. He has probably done unspeakable things in the name of his goal. That is the whole point.

Terry576

2011-04-04, 09:35 PM

...

*blinkblink*

...

*opens mouth*

...

*closes mouth*

...

I really have no idea how to respond to that...

The only response is to give into Frozen's demands.

Otherwise he will spam you pictures.

And it will never end.

The Librarian

2011-04-04, 09:56 PM

The only response is to give into Frozen's demands.

Otherwise he will spam you pictures.

And it will never end.

I might regret this but...
http://files.sharenator.com/Challenge_accepted_Red_pancake-s400x300-128675-580.jpg

riccaru

2011-04-04, 09:57 PM

Viera Champion

2011-04-04, 09:58 PM

Yeah, if you want to. Akio is making his great escape!

Go go Shinigamis! Power rangers are so overrated.

KnightDisciple

2011-04-04, 10:00 PM

Don't you think something with power equivalent to at least a level 30 or so Hado slamming into an open spirit gate might cause a few issues?

Terry576

2011-04-04, 10:07 PM

Don't you think something with power equivalent to at least a level 30 or so Hado slamming into an open spirit gate might cause a few issues?

Of course not Knight. It's a human doing it. Clearly, the Shinigami's might will overpower the human's power!

Duh.

riccaru

2011-04-04, 11:15 PM

Don't you think something with power equivalent to at least a level 30 or so Hado slamming into an open spirit gate might cause a few issues?

Well, since there's no precedence on whether or not the Senkai gates can be harmed by hado, I think it's safe to say Soul Society would account for an attack on their only means of transportation and possible retreat. Also, in episode 3 2 the Senkai gate was hit with a full powered cero from an adjuchas and a gillian, and came out still working.

If you'd like to have the central 5 make a ruling on this, then I suppose I'd have no choice but to go with their judgement.

Wahrheit

2011-04-04, 11:21 PM

Sorry for my recent absence. RL issues needed to be dealt with. Anyway, Magatsu is going to vanish into seclusion for a bit to train for Bankai before applying for Captain of 3rd.

tgva8889

2011-04-05, 02:26 AM

Frozen, do you have a list of active/inactive Captains/VCs? Just out of curiosity, so we know who's doing what and whatnot.

Thanks for the well-wishes. I feel surprisingly good this week, but we'll see whether that means I end up posting or not. I will hang out more often just to keep tabs on things and try not to fall too far behind.

CMOTDibbler's character hasn't really been VC of 10th since he left. If anyone does want to apply for 10th VC and isn't already playing a Captain/VC character yet, do let me know. I do still check PMs.

Also, if people could PM me if they would like me to post something, that could help too. I might actually get to posting this week as I do feel like I don't have as much to do right now.

Frozen_Feet

2011-04-05, 06:06 AM

Nero also said to leave. Now that Akio's trying to leave and incapable of fighting back they're going to gun him down? You guys were saying that Akio's a bad person:smalleek:

Nero is a bad person too. :smalltongue: Him being a **** and Akio being a **** is not mutually exclusive - they can very well be ***** together. XD

About active Seireitei leadership:

Captains:

Tsukada Ryouichi (1st)
Miyagawa Yuuki (2nd)
Ryuunosuke Osamu (5th)
Nakamura Masaru (8th)
Himura Michiko (about to fall inactive) (11th)
Takahashi Taiki (about to fall inactive) (10th)
Ryou Kazuo (12th)
Hayashi Natsuko (13th)

Total: 8 / 14

Vice-Captains:

Yamamoto Sayuri (1st)
Shihan Kyasarin (2nd)
Shizuka Magatsu (3rd)
Damara Shishihara (6th)
Nagamichi Soushi (8th)
Hirokatsu Goto (9th)
Katisugo Ichimyouri (12th)

Total: 7 / 14

3rd Seats:

Koishima Daisuke (3rd)
Feiyan Tewulan (4th)
Noburo Hideyaki (7th)
Taro Banzuke (10th)

Total: 4 / 14

Characters of above ranks that are theoretically available but excluded from the list due to extenuating circumstances:

Mitsukai Karite - ramifications of his Hollowfication must be dealt with first.
Yama Akio - ramifications of his tomfoolery must be dealt with first.
Kenichi Kurohoshi - Zerkai is around to play Canguro, but hasn't played Kenichi for a long while. If desired, I could ask him to resume playing him.

EDIT: Also, I'd very much appreciate if I was not the only one filling in the Story so far (http://bleachitp-reborn.wikidot.com/the-story-so-far) section of wiki. I know you haven't been doing it. I am not amused. -_-

The Librarian

2011-04-05, 06:50 PM

Okay, so judging from what I see here and from looking at skill sets, I think I see one possible way to fill in the seats with the characters below. Please note that this is only my opinion of how the promotions should work.

Captains:

Tsukada Ryouichi (1st)
Miyagawa Yuuki (2nd)
Shizuka Magatsu (3rd) Formerly VC of 3rd (Already apart of 3rd, so good fit.)
??? (4th) (This Division is really devoid PC's)
Ryuunosuke Osamu (5th)
Damara Shishihara (6th) Formerly VC of 6th (Has experience, and already apart of 6th.)
Katisugo Ichimyouri (7th) Formerly VC of 12th (Honestly, I'm a bit hesitant on this myself, but it could work.)
Nakamura Masaru (8th)
Hirokatsu Goto (9th) Formerly VC of 9th (He's already the Acting Captain for 9th.)
Takahashi Taiki (about to fall inactive) (10th)
Yukimura Seiko (11th) Formerly VC of 11th (Srsly, she could take over the position.)
Ryou Kazuo (12th)
Hayashi Natsuko (13th)
Yamamoto Sayuri (Kido) Formerly VC of 1st (her History and near masterful kido skill makes her a near perfect fit.)

New Vice Captains

Koishima Daisuke (3rd)
Feiyan Tewulan (4th) (this spot is especially needed.)
Noburo Hideyaki (7th)
Taro Banzuke (10th)

This would take care of most spots missing a leadership role in them, but I think that the bigger issue here is that we sort of lack a large pool of people who RP-ing in BleachITP. At this point I'm sure most of us are either playing either the number of characters we can play in the RP without overloading ourselves, or are playing as many as they want to play. So, I will say that I think were in need of some more recruitment to the RP.

Thoughts?

Frozen_Feet

2011-04-05, 07:12 PM

Back to recruiting, it seems.

Speaking of which, a shameless advert here. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=193911)

Anyways, the list isn't half bad. Barring interference from new players or characters, I suppose that's what we should tentatively aspire towards. So lets start playing it out.

The Librarian

2011-04-05, 07:42 PM

I was considering suggesting recruitment now, because it would allow us to fill in the remaining Captain and VC Seats with new blood, so we can have a more diverse mix of players in the RP. This could also help for filling up the Samsara with individuals so, they can actually be a threat to the other spiritual being organizations.

This is ultimately a decision for the Central 46 group to make, should that system still be functioning.

Terry576

2011-04-05, 07:50 PM

The Librarian

2011-04-05, 08:25 PM

Also, Righty forgot the 13th. Let's review!

Captain: Is going on Maternity leave.

Vice-Captain: Is going to be jailed for being a Vizard.

3rd Seat: Is going to be jailed for being a grudge-persuing, guard knock-outing, moron.

Boy oh boy, 13th is looking sweet.

I forgot Natsuko was pregnant:smallredface: My Bad.

Kuroimaken

2011-04-05, 08:44 PM

Shishiou would be glad to assume an interim position in the 4th. He certainly has the background for it, and if it's under the current dire circunstances, his dad certainly can't blame him. :smallwink:

Which reminds me, I should find something for him to do. :smalltongue:

riccaru

2011-04-05, 09:22 PM

KnightDisciple

2011-04-05, 09:26 PM

1.)That's not an exhaustive list.
2.)There's always the possibility our laws are different.

Certainly Akio's behaviour isn't the sort that should be encouraged.

riccaru

2011-04-05, 09:35 PM

1.)That's not an exhaustive list.
2.)There's always the possibility our laws are different.

Certainly Akio's behaviour isn't the sort that should be encouraged.

1.) If it was against the law, then it probably would have been deemed important enough to be on that list.
2.) I'm fairly certain I wrote "if" at the beginning of that.

And we've had plenty of atrocious behavior within the Seretei in our game that's not coming into question. Captain Kazuo's screaming metal death trap helicopter wrecking a good sized area seems fairly iffy. So does Magatsu's murderous outbursts, and Takaheshi's prejudice against Hannibal, and now possibly Karite.

And as Akio was acting captain he would have the same status as a normal captain. The guards have also broken the law as far as anyone's concerned by attacking Akio. There's no evidence one way or another that he attacked first, or that he didn't tell them to move first.

InyutheBeatIs

2011-04-05, 09:39 PM

This may be ignorance or stupidity talking, but I think we should solve the case of who's guilty of what IC, rather than here.

I have to say, though, is it just me or is the Central 46 really rough on everybody?

Terry576

2011-04-05, 09:48 PM

1.) If it was against the law, then it probably would have been deemed important enough to be on that list.
2.) I'm fairly certain I wrote "if" at the beginning of that.

And we've had plenty of atrocious behavior within the Seretei in our game that's not coming into question. Captain Kazuo's screaming metal death trap helicopter wrecking a good sized area seems fairly iffy. So does Magatsu's murderous outbursts, and Takaheshi's prejudice against Hannibal, and now possibly Karite.

Except when Akio decided to do that, Karite was Acting Captain. Akio did that during Karite's comatose state, before they could strip him of his rank. Therefore, Akio's decision to attack random guards is not the decision of a captain.

And, considering Akio just 'knocked them out', what do you think they're going to do when they wake up? They're guards of a Gate to the Mortal World, and Akio attacked them and entered without a legal permit. Honestly, Akio's doomed in like fourteen different ways. He entered the Mortal world, in pursuit of a grudge, which is against the Thirteenth's rules. He broke the rules his division set. You know, the ones where high level officers only enter the Mortal World as a back-up plan? Like Akio did in the first place? Hell, if Akio was beaten once, why would he go back for seconds?

@Inyu: Two people are guilty.

Karite: Hollowification. Definitely not fit for a position of power until such a time as when he can control his Hollow.

Akio: We've had this argument fourty bajillion times. Akio. Is. Guilty. Straw said so, Straw plays the leader of Seireitei. Frozen had a list of reasons Akio was guilty. Knight has listed the reasons Akio is guilty. By now, we could create a college thesis on why Akio is guilty.

Possibly Michiko: Gave a known Vizard a choice to flee. Her division witnessed it, so they might tell Taiki, who would put her in chains.

And for final clarification:

Akio was not acting captain, as Karite wasn't removed from duty, and Natsuko wasn't on maternity leave at that point.

riccaru

2011-04-05, 09:53 PM

Except when Akio decided to do that, Karite was Acting Captain. Akio did that during Karite's comatose state, before they could strip him of his rank. Therefore, Akio's decision to attack random guards is not the decision of a captain.

And, considering Akio just 'knocked them out', what do you think they're going to do when they wake up? They're guards of a Gate to the Mortal World, and Akio attacked them and entered without a legal permit. Honestly, Akio's doomed in like fourteen different ways. He entered the Mortal world, in pursuit of a grudge, which is against the Thirteenth's rules. He broke the rules his division set. You know, the ones where high level officers only enter the Mortal World as a back-up plan? Like Akio did in the first place? Hell, if Akio was beaten once, why would he go back for seconds?

@Inyu: Two people are guilty.

Karite: Hollowification. Definitely not fit for a position of power until such a time as when he can control his Hollow.

Akio: We've had this argument fourty bajillion times. Akio. Is. Guilty. Straw said so, Straw plays the leader of Seireitei. Frozen had a list of reasons Akio was guilty. Knight has listed the reasons Akio is guilty. By now, we could create a college thesis on why Akio is guilty.

Possibly Michiko: Gave a known Vizard a choice to flee. Her division witnessed it, so they might tell Taiki, who would put her in chains.

And for final clarification:

Akio was not acting captain, as Karite wasn't removed from duty, and Natsuko wasn't on maternity leave at that point.

I wasn't aware someone could make informed decisions about how something was run while they were comatose, or that I ever said Akio intended to fight Elder. It's also been established that Akio was acting captain in the same post that he fought the three Shinigami which was never brought up until now.

Edit: Is anyone wanting to play the tenth divisioners? If not then I'll probably just do it.

Terry576

2011-04-05, 10:00 PM

Yeah okay. Whatever.

I'm done now. I no longer care whether Akio is guilty or not. Because we all know he is, and you're just delaying the inevitable. We know his 'crimes', which you keep saying are not crimes, and we know that he will go to jail for these crimes.

Remember, we're operating on base military rules here. And attacking other military personnel is against the law.

And do you honestly think that Seireitei is going to believe Akio over three guards who will all testify against him? Considering Akio's vanishing after he attacked them? And the fact that Akio's reason for leaving is "vengeance"?

Yeah. I didn't think so.

KnightDisciple

2011-04-05, 10:01 PM

Terry. Riccaru. Please stop. I shouldn't have started balls rolling, but it's definitely getting heated in here.

When I have a chance, I will try contacting the other Central 5 members and gathering their thoughts. It looks like we may have a couple of trials coming up, at this rate.

riccaru

2011-04-05, 10:05 PM

Kind of related, but as soon as Akio gets a good chance, he's going to be heading Elder's way again. He still hasn't quite had that talk yet.:smalltongue:

strawberryman

2011-04-05, 10:10 PM

Kind of related, but as soon as Akio gets a good chance, he's going to be heading Elder's way again. He still hasn't quite had that talk yet.:smalltongue:

He isn't going to get a chance if Ryouichi has anything to say about it.

riccaru

2011-04-05, 10:17 PM

He isn't going to get a chance if Ryouichi has anything to say about it.

Well they can't exactly keep him in Maggot's nest, so where would they put him?:smallwink:

Terry576

2011-04-05, 10:19 PM

Well they can't exactly keep him in Maggot's nest, so where would they put him?:smallwink:

The Maggot's Nest.

Why can't they put him there exactly?

InyutheBeatIs

2011-04-05, 10:20 PM

The Maggot's Nest.

Why can't they put him there exactly?

It's kinda being transmuted into about five thousand different things at once.

Doesn't mean its no longer functional, just that it'll be difficult.

KnightDisciple

2011-04-05, 10:21 PM

I'm pretty sure we've established there are other holding cells inside Soul Society proper; the Maggot's Nest was for the "hard cases". It only makes sense to have other prisons.

I point your attention to the location they kept Rukia in while awaiting her trial.

riccaru

2011-04-05, 10:23 PM

The Maggot's Nest.

Why can't they put him there exactly?

There seems to be... A mountain on it. Not to mention the structure isn't exactly suited to hold prisoners anymore, just look at Hannibal.

Terry576

2011-04-05, 11:08 PM

There seems to be... A mountain on it. Not to mention the structure isn't exactly suited to hold prisoners anymore, just look at Hannibal.

Who is a Captain, with crazy strength, has a Vizard mask, and is a Hollow.

Hannibal is like the epitome of Maggot's Nest prisoners. Akio is not on his level.

riccaru

2011-04-05, 11:21 PM

Who is a Captain, with crazy strength, has a Vizard mask, and is a Hollow.

Hannibal is like the epitome of Maggot's Nest prisoners. Akio is not on his level.

Who's had is strength slowly eaten from his body every day for the past 2 centuries:smalltongue:. There were also a lot of other escapees, too. The point is, Maggot's nest is gonna need to be rebuilt from the ground up before it's fit to hold anyone.

InyutheBeatIs

2011-04-05, 11:23 PM

Once again, I strongly suggest that we hold off on any decisions regarding Akio or any Central 46 decisions until we actually get to them in the IC threads. Any further discussion won't help anybody.

Wahrheit

2011-04-05, 11:28 PM

Magatsu is going to be acting captain for a while, since even once he attains Bankai he won't immediately be able to use it at will. Eien Uzumaki is a jerk like that. On that note, we really should come up with Sakura's mission to the Mortal World for him, since I didn't get any details before Purple Rose left.

While he's there he'll have his breakthrough and finalize Bankai, leaving him able to get his shiny new haori once he returns to Seireitei.

I may also be looking forward to having him tangentially cross paths with some of the kids as sort of a wake-up call that there's spiritual beings way past what they've dealt with so far, since by that point his reiatsu will be in the middle of its climb to captain-level. Well, that and I'm pretty sure anyone in town with any spiritual sensitivity at all will feel it when he pulls out full Bankai for the first time.

:smalleek: I see things being uncomfortable for Izumi's sister, on that front.

EDIT: Also, anyone have an idea for how I can get Rex re-involved in the mortal world?

InyutheBeatIs

2011-04-06, 12:03 AM

*smacks himself on forehead*

Personally, I'd be surprised of Management will even let Magatsu anywhere near the Captain's seat. But, once again let's worry about it when we get there! Besides, what would be the reason for letting the Mortal Kids know about higher forces? They won't deal with them anytime soon, they'd drop like flies. I'd be more comfortable with them coming into contact with a high-profile spiritual bieng who wants to track them down for meddling in his/her/its plans.

Wahrheit

2011-04-06, 12:08 AM

Magatsu may be rather... uh... stabby, but he also wouldn't have kept his position, especially under Sakura, if he wasn't good at what he did. Though yes, he does have issues to deal with, which is going to be part of his training and why he doesn't have Bankai yet.

As for the Mortal Kids, it wouldn't be any direct encounter. Sensing him would basically let them know that there's bigger things out there, so they should be on guard and stay careful. More encouragement to avoid complacency, if you will.

InyutheBeatIs

2011-04-06, 12:17 AM

Alright, fair enough.

My apologies if I'm being too harsh here.

Wahrheit

2011-04-06, 12:25 AM

Oh, not at all. Magatsu's only had like two opportunities to show the non-stabby side of himself, and as a part-time GM I can appreciate the desire not to throw ludicrous-CR encounters at players for the lulz.

Dorizzit

2011-04-06, 06:56 AM

EDIT: Also, anyone have an idea for how I can get Rex re-involved in the mortal world?

If you haven't gotten him re-involved by that point, I was planning to have Nakahiro contact him after the current scene with the kids is over.

*coughifiteverfinishescough*

Also, when were you planning to have the Magatsu pass near the kids?

HirokatsuGoto

2011-04-06, 08:13 AM

just what i was going to say

I'm pretty sure we've established there are other holding cells inside Soul Society proper; the Maggot's Nest was for the "hard cases". It only makes sense to have other prisons.

I point your attention to the location they kept Rukia in while awaiting her trial.

horngeek

2011-04-06, 04:17 PM

EDIT: Also, anyone have an idea for how I can get Rex re-involved in the mortal world?

Maybe he can meet up with Izumi and meet Chiyoko? :smalltongue:

Terry576

2011-04-06, 04:19 PM

Maybe he can meet up with Izumi and meet Chiyoko? :smalltongue:

I think that would be a most excellent time to reintroduce Sora.

Because we're finally out of the whole "OMG SPIRITSTUFF" arc. Where Sora and Silva were banned. :smallannoyed:

That was getting old.

Wahrheit

2011-04-06, 08:47 PM

Maybe he can meet up with Izumi and meet Chiyoko? :smalltongue:

That works really well, actually. I'll write a post later tonight having Rex go looking for her.

If you haven't gotten him re-involved by that point, I was planning to have Nakahiro contact him after the current scene with the kids is over.

*coughifiteverfinishescough*

Also, when were you planning to have the Magatsu pass near the kids?

It'd be a while down the line, once he's actually in the mortal world to do some good old-fashioned stabbing. I'm hoping to put together an episode for him and Nasumi as soon as Soul Society stabilizes a little bit, and once that episode's over I'll start a new one for his mission to Phoenix Town.

Terry576

2011-04-06, 08:51 PM

What's the Kina kidnap timeset? Is it post Ep6 or pre Ep6 or another alternate reality like that one thing?

I'm so confused. :smalleek:

riccaru

2011-04-06, 09:56 PM

What's the Kina kidnap timeset? Is it post Ep6 or pre Ep6 or another alternate reality like that one thing?

I'm so confused. :smalleek:

It's in "the present" if that helps any. That would make it 3 or so days after Episode 6, enough time to get Sora settled into the apartment.:smalltongue:

KnightDisciple

2011-04-06, 10:08 PM

May I make a request about the "Kina gets kidnapped" section of the plot? Could it perhaps take place at least 2 in-game days after the current scene? So not "tomorrow", but instead "the day after tomorrow".

Also, I'm getting a bit frustrated OOC by some of the IC posts. It seems like people are blatantly ignoring things. Like how Kaito actually gave Michiko room to explain herself. He wanted to hear more about her being leader. But no, somehow that's an outright rejection.
Also, I'm confused as to why everyone's suddenly supposed to be best friends. Maybe it's part of Kina's own little world, but Kaito and Ken are obviously not forming an easy friendship due to personality conflicts, and Kaito just met Michiko; why would he suddenly be friends with her? Maybe it's all "IC bias", but it still feels like what I wrote is being ignored in favor of "everyone's rejecting my offer, now I shall kidnap!". *Shrugs*

tgva8889

2011-04-06, 10:09 PM

1. Maggot's Nest holds no one. Look at it. That said, there are plenty of other prisons. Besides the one in 10th's Barracks, however, none of them are managed by 10th. I imagine the other prisons are mostly for political prisoners (I.E. Shinigami who are in said division and are not being held for horrible crimes), but that's really for individual divisions to decide.

10th has 5 prisons. They are managed by the 1st Seat (Captain; This one's Maggot's Nest), 5th Seat, 9th Seat, 13th Seat, and 17th Seat. Each also has the next 3 seats below the top as management. None of them are as large, extensive, well-hidden, or well-kept as Maggot's Nest, nor are any of them suited to holding prisoners as powerful as Hannibal. Hannibal is a huge exception to the rule; he's probably more powerful than several in-game Captains and Espada. Heck, Maggot's Nest probably wasn't even suited to holding Hannibal.

So basically, most prisoners that are recaptured are going to be held by whoever captures them until 10th can reorganize itself. The 2nd, 3rd, and 4th seats will basically each take over one of the remaining 4 prisons, probably those held by the lower ranks. The structure will be relatively reorganized, as Taiki will not be managing any of the prisons individually, but will be more focused on his Execution Squad and making sure the other Prisons are managed accordingly.

That is the current plan, anyways. If anyone has any suggestions/comments, don't be afraid to make them heard.

riccaru

2011-04-06, 10:11 PM

Kuroimaken

2011-04-06, 10:21 PM

It has been mentioned before, but unfortunately, Kaito comes off as abrasive since he doesn't sugar-coat the truth - he's frank and direct, almost all business and no fun. To Kina, it makes sense they should be friends: they'd be working together, they're supposed to be watching each other's backs, and unfriendliness makes that a less interesting proposition.

Actually, I find it funny that the first question on the kids' tongues was "who's gonna be the leader". Wouldn't it be more important to figure out what they're gonna be doing first? Heck, Kina herself nailed it: none of the kids really has any leadership skills worth speaking of. They have the potential, with no experience. (Yes, even Michiko. Hasunaga would have a few choice words for her if he learned of this meeting.)

Perhaps ironically, the one with the best potential yet worst personality for the job would be Kina. Despite her lack of assertiveness, she has exhibited more concern for the welfare of everyone involved than any of the other kids.

Dorizzit

2011-04-06, 10:25 PM

tgva8889

2011-04-06, 10:48 PM

Also, I'm getting a bit frustrated OOC by some of the IC posts. It seems like people are blatantly ignoring things. Like how Kaito actually gave Michiko room to explain herself. He wanted to hear more about her being leader. But no, somehow that's an outright rejection.
Also, I'm confused as to why everyone's suddenly supposed to be best friends. Maybe it's part of Kina's own little world, but Kaito and Ken are obviously not forming an easy friendship due to personality conflicts, and Kaito just met Michiko; why would he suddenly be friends with her? Maybe it's all "IC bias", but it still feels like what I wrote is being ignored in favor of "everyone's rejecting my offer, now I shall kidnap!". *Shrugs*

Yeah, it is partly because of Kina's "own little world". But also because of her grandfather.

She knows a lot more about what's going on that she has revealed (she is a trained Quincy). She also perceives that having some kind of military organization among the kids is a lot less useful than everyone being able to lead and manage themselves when necessary, because they won't always be together. She was taught that hollow are random, hollows are merciless, and hollows will not appear at "opportune times". They will appear when you are playing with your children, or at a birthday party, or in the middle of your job interview, or at a funeral, and you will have to be able to react alone to defend people you love. It is better when everyone is a leader in a group like this in a situation like this.

Kina's going to ignore his offer (and Michiko's) because both go against her principles and what she was taught and what she believes. It is better to her that everyone be familiar with everyone else so that they can work together, but be self-sufficient enough that they can manage on their own. Leadership (in her knowledge and experience) does not cause this self-development, it causes reliance.

She's not going to say any of this outright because then she'd be revealing her Quincy-ness and she's not going to do that until she has to. But just to give you some insight. Sorry you feel that Kaito is being rejected right now for no good reason. But you know, he kinda is. :smallannoyed:

Edit: I just wanted to get this up, but let me clarify a bit.
1) Kina does want everyone to be friends. It's not a "we should be friends" it's a "Why can't we be?" because she really does like everyone standing in that circle (except Nakahiro but that's because they haven't had much if any conversation yet so she's just neutral towards him). She does want them to be friendly. Do they have any reason to? No. But Kina wants it all the same.
2) Kina leaving isn't a "this discussion is over", it's a "I can't decide this right now, maybe we should discuss this later after I've had time to think it over". The kids don't know each other well enough to just put all their trust into one person. Kina definitely doesn't know Nakahiro well enough to just say "Sure, this kid can lead me." She also perceived that the conversation was over because Kaito and Michiko had differing opinions and neither one was going to change them.

Edit 2: Also, Kuroimaken, Kina is hiding a lot. When she stops hiding she'll probably be a little different. Once she "powers up," so to speak, she'll probably have much more useful things to say.

By the way, who is playing the Quincy best suited to training Kina?

As a small comment, I personally just think the whole conversation is silly. Leadership isn't something that's decided upon, leadership is something that's taken and earned. And when it is taken up by someone who both wants to do it and is most capable, it tends to work out quite well. People fall behind the person who leads best, not the person who says they're the leader loudest. If you think you can lead the best, prove it by leading.

Terry576

2011-04-06, 10:51 PM

Perhaps ironically, the one with the best potential yet worst personality for the job would be Kina. Despite her lack of assertiveness, she has exhibited more concern for the welfare of everyone involved than any of the other kids.

Ho no, the real irony is that Sora has the most experience with these situations, cares enough about Izumi that he'd actually lead reasonably, but is far too sociopathic to actually be a good leader.

Draken

2011-04-06, 10:58 PM

Clearly the answer is to give leadership to the bird nested on Valeria's head.

Dorizzit

2011-04-06, 10:59 PM

Obviously this is the best solution available.

Draken

2011-04-06, 11:02 PM

riccaru

2011-04-06, 11:05 PM

The bird has larger experience with all things spiritual than any of the other avaiable options. Including and up to Sora and any of the bounts. It loses to Yui, however, but has access to a source with unmatched experience.

On the other hand, it is evil.

And now we have a clear dilemma. On one hand it's the best leader. On the other hand it'll be leading everyone to death. Hmm:smallbiggrin:

@tgva: Kayne560 has the Science teacher, who is the oldest Quincy character. The next most experienced quincy would probably be Alexander (Me), then possible Rex Irons or Rebecca Williams.

KnightDisciple

2011-04-06, 11:05 PM

Terry576

2011-04-06, 11:06 PM

The bird has larger experience with all things spiritual than any of the other avaiable options. Including and up to Sora and any of the bounts. It loses to Yui, however, but has access to a source with unmatched experience.

On the other hand, it is evil.

Bah. Our other options are a control freak and another control freak, except the second one is PMSing.

I'll take the evil bird any day.

riccaru

2011-04-06, 11:08 PM

On a more serious note, I think Izumi's probably the best choice. She has empathy, but unlike Kina, she's not scared and ashamed of what she is, and isn't holding back potentially critical information due to that.

So hopefully we can get her into the group at some point. :smalltongue:

Is Izumi forceful enough to take charge? It would probably have to be someone who's at ease with telling other people around. Is whoever still playing the Shinigami that gave Izumi her powers? He might be a good candidate, not so much as a leader but as a way to bring them all together outside of combat.

Dorizzit

2011-04-06, 11:09 PM

On a more serious note, I think Izumi's probably the best choice. She has empathy, but unlike Kina, she's not scared and ashamed of what she is, and isn't holding back potentially critical information due to that.

So hopefully we can get her into the group at some point. :smalltongue:

Nakahiro is planning to contact everyone he knows with spiritual powers who wasn't present at the meeting after this to tell them about the group, unless someone else gets to them first.

horngeek

2011-04-06, 11:11 PM

Is Izumi forceful enough to take charge? It would probably have to be someone who's at ease with telling other people around. Is whoever still playing the Shinigami that gave Izumi her powers? He might be a good candidate, not so much as a leader but as a way to bring them all together outside of combat.

At present, no. In the immediate aftermath of the whole kidnapping mess, she'll probably be so, though.

Terry576

2011-04-06, 11:12 PM

Nakahiro is planning to contact everyone he knows with spiritual powers who wasn't present at the meeting after this to tell them about the group, unless someone else gets to them first.

How exactly is he going to tell Sora? Sora's kind of... sociopathic, paranoid, and cut off from the rest of society.

His only 'real world' contact is Izumi.

It's pretty sad.

tgva8889

2011-04-06, 11:14 PM

On a more serious note, I think Izumi's probably the best choice. She has empathy, but unlike Kina, she's not scared and ashamed of what she is, and isn't holding back potentially critical information due to that.

So once Kina stops doing that, she can be the Lancer!? Yeah! I get to play Renji!

...wait, crap. :smallsigh:

...:smallbiggrin:

But in all seriousness, Kina's probably gonna end up revealing herself at some point during the kidnapping plot when kids start fighting against each other.

Terry576

2011-04-06, 11:16 PM

So once Kina stops doing that, she can be the Lancer!? Yeah! I get to play Renji!

...wait, crap. :smallsigh:

...:smallbiggrin:

But in all seriousness, Kina's probably gonna end up revealing herself at some point during the kidnapping plot when kids start fighting against each other.

You do realize that in my mind Kina will now forever have those ridiculous scars on her face.

Draken

2011-04-06, 11:19 PM

Those are tattoos. And isn't Uryu the lancer?

KnightDisciple

2011-04-06, 11:20 PM

Is Izumi forceful enough to take charge? It would probably have to be someone who's at ease with telling other people around. Is whoever still playing the Shinigami that gave Izumi her powers? He might be a good candidate, not so much as a leader but as a way to bring them all together outside of combat.The guy playing that Shinigami faded out of the game a long while back.

Also, what horngeek said. Perhaps between her and Nakahiro, they'll get a solid handle on the group.

Dorizzit

2011-04-06, 11:40 PM

How exactly is he going to tell Sora? Sora's kind of... sociopathic, paranoid, and cut off from the rest of society.

His only 'real world' contact is Izumi.

It's pretty sad.

Also Rex. Don't forget about him.

Wahrheit

2011-04-06, 11:58 PM

Rex would gladly help with leadership of the group, since his parents gave him a proper Quincy upbringing. Besides, he's a gentleman.

Unfortunately, I don't think he'd be great for training Kina, since the Irons clan is pretty unorthodox among the Quincy. Ones that know the family name probably look at them kinda weird.

tgva8889

2011-04-07, 12:13 AM

Those are tattoos. And isn't Uryu the lancer?

Ah, well in that case she even more get to be the Quincy Lancer!

nothingclever

2011-04-07, 02:47 AM

Clearly the answer is to give leadership to the bird nested on Valeria's head.
Clearly the answer is to give leadership to Ken since he spotted the bird.

Shades of Gray

2011-04-07, 07:57 AM

He has an eye for talent.

Kuroimaken

2011-04-07, 08:38 AM

Hehe. I'm looking forward to the end of the kidnapping mess so Hasunaga can give the kids his own brand of training from hell.

...Man, I enjoy that role way too much...

The Librarian

2011-04-07, 09:48 AM

Terry576

2011-04-07, 10:54 AM

So out of curiosity, has there been any thought put into my suggestion about recruiting additional people for the RP? I'd assume were trying to end current plots and the arc in general. Just want to know if there is a plan if any for getting more characters, especially for the Samsara.

This RP is open. We can't recruit people, so much as leave it open. Recruitment is virtually impossible, all we need are people who want to play a Bleach character, and don't mind RPing.

Shades of Gray

2011-04-07, 10:55 AM

We could still advertise via a sig-banner or a recruitment thread in the Recruiting section.

Terry576

2011-04-07, 11:03 AM

The trouble with that is, that even though it draws people in, we want people to stay. And for them to stay they need three things:

1. To be interested in Bleach.
2. To be interested in our plots.
3. To be a Main Character for at least one plot.

While a small list, that's a crazy requirement, on that makes it rather hard to keep people on the RP.

Draken

2011-04-07, 11:25 AM

Kuroimaken

2011-04-07, 11:51 AM

We've all been facing more than our number of setbacks. Many of us have faced a number of RL problems, which makes the whole thing even harder to concilliate.

I'm afraid there simply isn't much we can do aside from keeping things moving as best as we can. Plots involving a smaller number of characters would probably be ideal - many of our arcs slow to a crawl because there's simply way too many people involved, and not all of them are available at any given time to continue.

HirokatsuGoto

2011-04-07, 02:15 PM

ive had two people not join because the pace was too slow...even for forum RP.... they also mentioned it was confusing about postings and who was involved, as each thread isnt limited to just one set of RP, it was hard for them to figure out what was going on and who was involved. So even if they wanted to join in they had no idea what was going on and who was involved as all the posts smack up against each other regardless of what RP it is

im still relatively new around here, and i can say from my own personal experience, that i almost left because i wasnt welcomed into any RPs or asked to be involved...making a character was justifiably slow as it should be IMO, but joining RP shouldnt be...i knwo everyone has their own RP going on, but as a new player knowing you will be involved in something is almost the most important part of whether you stay or not... people obviously want to RP...and jsut telling them "jump in" is not welcoming enough...

In my opinion we should be more active in trying to get people involved in SOME kind of RP as they join, even if it is simple...and we should all go out of our way to do it...

i do think smaller grouped RPs make more sense too...maybe more plot threads with some kind of known goal or hopeful ending...

i always liked to RP for HOW the story was goign to be told as opposed to the "surprise" or twist endings it could provide...Dungeon crawls are pretty standard for D+D but they can always be exciting and fun as each time you do them you do them in different ways... deciding on the goals in each plot arent exactly the easiest thing to agree on as a group but it isnt impossible something as simple as...

"New 10th Lt search arc"
-person who wants to start it contacts those involved, and opens it up to everyone to see if their own goals may fit in
-each person involved says what they want to accomplish by the end
-then talk through some mile markers for the RP to hit....
-if antagonists are needed or something then they are created and volunteered for or are assigned and agreed upon

ex:
-Joe(Cpt of 10th) wants a new Lt named of the 10th...puts it in the OOC, "who wants to be involved or thinks they have a character for the job or may want to create one"....Tim, Bob, Shelly, and Rick all are interested...Vladimir thinks he could throw in something as he wants his character to spar someone higher than him for his own character, and Troy has a character already in the 10th wants to be invovled in a minor way...Phillip is friends with Troys charcter and figures they coudl have a good RP whiel all this is going on
-Tim wants his character to be 10th LT, so does Shelly and Rick...each explaining breifly why and how they woudl want to show it
-Bob is interested but doesnt have a character so has to create one first
-while Bob does that, Joe talks about how he would want it to go based on their interests....Shelly and Rick are gonna spar...then Bob and Tim wil..the winner of those spars will square off...as well as the two losers...as a means to show their prowess in battle...
-Joe doesnt want it all to be about fighting so he interviews each of them as well...the winner is chosen for Joe's own reasoning which he can keep private and let play out in the RP...it will end with Joe and the new aspirant Cpt sparring and finally being named Lt

that isnt the best example...but it isnt that complicated...and doesnt even have to be very long...serves a greater purpose as well as being able to be somewhat "out of time" or dropped in whenever as it is somewhat self-contained...which would give all the members the freedom to RP in other RPs at some other time if they want....

i am babbling..disregard me if you like...

im just trying to help

tgva8889

2011-04-07, 03:06 PM

The glacial pace is indeed a fault of a group of people (me included) that, because of vital plot inclusion, have caused some slowdown in the game. I am incredibly sorry for it.

That said, there are a lot of things required to get people into this game, and I think it's possible we're trying to do too much. We shot off a major plot involving all of Sereitei that froze over because one of the major players (me) was not really able to pull his weight.

I think we can fix the glacial speed. We do also need an easy way to integrate new players. I know even before at the beginning, it was very hard for me to jump into Bleach before.

Also, is being a main character for a plot a requirement? I know I haven't ever cared about that, but I'm not most so I don't know. The whole idea of FFRPs is that really, no one's the "main character".

HirokatsuGoto

2011-04-07, 03:21 PM

true there is no "main" character...but there are obviously characters who seem to be involved in lots of stuff...

being a "main" character i dont think is necessary, but having a plot where they are more than someone who just reacts to others storylines i think si a desire anyone has... having some kind of plot for your own character seems to be something i think most people want to do...everyone has plans for their characters in some way i would think... maybe not...

maybe everyone could list their small goals and larger ones for each character...then we could talk through how to possibly bring as many of them to fruition as we can...since there is no MAIN plot or MAIN characters ti seems like the overall plot should be run by everyone and all their desires...if not then we should have a more active GM or something like that who guides the players to plots in some way making RP situations for people to help some overall arc going... but everyone's characters should be involved in soem way that progresses the players desires i woudl think...

anyways..

The glacial pace is indeed a fault of a group of people (me included) that, because of vital plot inclusion, have caused some slowdown in the game. I am incredibly sorry for it.

That said, there are a lot of things required to get people into this game, and I think it's possible we're trying to do too much. We shot off a major plot involving all of Sereitei that froze over because one of the major players (me) was not really able to pull his weight.

I think we can fix the glacial speed. We do also need an easy way to integrate new players. I know even before at the beginning, it was very hard for me to jump into Bleach before.

Also, is being a main character for a plot a requirement? I know I haven't ever cared about that, but I'm not most so I don't know. The whole idea of FFRPs is that really, no one's the "main character".

tgva8889

2011-04-07, 03:35 PM

I think people also have to realize that in a game like this, you sometimes have to be willing to sacrifice a lot of what you want. But I don't know whether that's here or there.

Terry576

2011-04-07, 03:35 PM

Also, is being a main character for a plot a requirement? I know I haven't ever cared about that, but I'm not most so I don't know. The whole idea of FFRPs is that really, no one's the "main character".

It is, actually. For instance, would you have joined BiTP if your character was going to be ignored for most of the game?

Of course not. Which is one of the main problems with BiTP. We have multiple plots running, and some characters are integral to several at once.

For instance, currently, in SS, we have:

Karite's Hollowification (Nearly wrapped up, Kayne is busy.)

The Maggot's Nest (Don't know where this one is.)

That chick that Frozen's playing being captured by Ryouichi or something

Shiro's character in Akio's mansion

Akio's court martial

Most of these require the same people to operate in multiple places. Which makes it ludicrously hard to run.

And then we have Mortal World. That's just confusing in general.

We're in the past (3 days back.)

We're in the present.

We're way back in the past (5 days back, Ep6.)

We're in the future (2 days forward.)

It boggles the mind how we ever got anything done.

Also, Hiro? I have no idea what you're writing. Honestly. Are you translating from another language or something? Because I'm having a really hard time reading most of your text. :smallconfused: