A tale of sorts [OOC]

[Brass Dragon]

Well here you go


Rule: post an average of once per day, have your 2 person ooc conversations out of this thread, and have fun

rolls are done IC, i want to basically use this thread for you guys to ask things to me or eachother, everything else, your character can probably do

[oyzar]

{table]Player|Race|Class|Character and Sheet|Aligment
Rendel Nep|Dwarf|Monk|Ovdal Balderk (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=507936)|LG
ChrisClark13|Unicorn|Inquisitor|Grey (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=509194)|LG
Razorback|Samsaran|Inquisitor/Monk|Lerrin Exlin (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=499566)|LN
ShadowFireLance|Quetzal|Wizard|Quazoratal (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=507056)|LN
Ralasha|Half-Giant Halfling|Fighter|Cora Dale (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=507869)|TN
Crazyfailure13|Catfolk|Barbarian|Aerus (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=507673)|TN
MHerbert|Tiefling|Alchemist|Lorenz Varren (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=507846)|TN
Jynx|Human|Samurai|Tensu (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=508633)|CN
Not a paladin|Changeling|Rogue|June Wolsey (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=509699)|CN
oyzar|Drow|Ninja/Sorceror|Cyzra (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=509428)|NE
[/table]

Cyzra Ze'Naur (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=509428) "will speak in Purple", thoughts will be italicized

Posting once per day will be fine. Will rolls be done OOC (before the post, then the post acting on the rolls) or IC (so the rolls can be tied to the actions of the post)? A list of the characters in the game would not hurt, as then people do not have to look tot he pregame thread to find out.

I assume we can make up places in the city as well. My character will likely start in a tavern called "The full chest" unless I can think of something better, will post in a couple hours.

looks:
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs29/f/2008/092/7/3/Drow_Spellcast_by_Cyzra.jpg

[ShadowFireLance]

I'm in, just gimme a few hours to get to a real pc.

[Rendel Nep]

Posting for Ovdal 'Stonekeg' Balderk (http://http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=507936)who will speak in Sienna

[Silver Swift]

Kyron (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=509740) will speak in orange

Edit: Bolding is a good idea, so bolded orange

[MHerbert]

Posting to confirm Lorenz Varren (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=507846)
Who shall speak in Emboldened Dark Red and think in Italicised Dark Red.

[razorback]

Lerrin (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=499566) will speak in Navy!

[Crazyfailure13]

Aerus The "Gentleman" (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=507673) is in and he'll speak in Darkgreen

[-Jynx-]

Tensu (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=508633) will speak like this and think like this.

[oyzar]

@-Jynx-: I just looked at your character sheet and noticed that you got both bracers of armor and normal armor, those do not stack (read the description of bracers or armor).

[Crazyfailure13]

Just realized this thread is in the IC sub-forum, should we tell a mod or something?

[Sinpoder]

Mike (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=509655)

His stuff will be Blue

I will do what I can..... I just have to wait for our only real munchkin to get here... so I know how I am going to post...

[Swami Monsoon]

Tom Underhill (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=508423) will speak in dark blue.

[Ralasha]

Well, I'm so happy. My color is magenta, and no one has taken it from me.

This is my character. (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=507869)

Who is it with the stage-coach/wagon that I am partnered with for travel?

Oh, now that's not nice. I just found the character in question, and finished the IC post.

[Sinpoder]

Well, I'm so happy. My color is magenta, and no one has taken it from me.

This is my character. (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=507869)

Who is it with the stage-coach/wagon that I am partnered with for travel?

Oh, now that's not nice. I just found the character in question, and finished the IC post.

That is me i think... if I remember

[Ralasha]

{table]Player|Race|Class|Character and Sheet|Aligment
Rendel Nep|Dwarf|Monk|Ovdal Balderk (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=507936)|LG
Peregrine Crow|Half Elf|Aegis| Kyron (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=509740)|LG
ChrisClark13|Unicorn|Inquisitor|Grey (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=509194)|LG
ngilop|Human|Mighty Godlin|Kreoc (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=508196)|CG
Swami Monsoon|Catfolk|Oracle|Tom Underhill (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=508423)|CG
Razorback|Samsaran|Inquisitor/Monk|Lerrin Exlin (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=499566)|LN
ShadowFireLance|Quetzal|Wizard|Quazoratal (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=507056)|LN
Ralasha|Half-Giant Halfling|Fighter|Cora Dale (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=507869)|TN
Crazyfailure13|Catfolk|Barbarian|Aerus (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=507673)|TN
MHerbert|Tiefling|Alchemist|Lorenz Varren (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=507846)|TN
Icilia|Goblin|Cleric|Herald (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=507877)|TN
Rokku|Elan|Cryptic|Kellis Venn (http://plothook.net/RPG/profiler/view.php?id=11839)|CN
Jynx|Human|Samurai|Tensu (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=508633)|CN
D4saken1|Hobgoblin|Gunslinger|Lannan Montique (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=508718)|CN
Not a paladin|Changeling|Rogue|June Wolsey (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=509699)|CN
oyzar|Drow|Ninja/Sorceror|Cyzra (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=509428)|NE
Sinpoder|Human|Fighter|Michael Capolitare (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=509655)|NE
[/table]
Nope, the tief that decided to not know anyone. So I guess the Hin works as a Caravan Guard together with the Human.

This table seems somehow important. So I posted it.

Point being, it's you now.

[Crazyfailure13]

Wait did Aerus just get kicked in the shin?

[Ralasha]

Yes, he apparently did.

[Crazyfailure13]

Hes ignoring it :p

[MHerbert]

It's not really that he doesn't know anyone, it more that he would have only travelled with them for a short while.
He kinda has the Friendless trait.

Being about 65 and in a job with a high attrition rate has made him a bit detatched, especially as most people (humans/halflings) would give him crap about being a Tiefling.

[Ralasha]

Anti-social then. Got it.

[Not a Paladin]

June (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=509699) shall speak in bold green, and her thoughts will be in italicised green.

[Brass Dragon]

Just realized this thread is in the IC sub-forum, should we tell a mod or something?

worst case scenario it gets moved and we all know where it is, till then, i shall remain lazy regarding this

[Icilia]

Herald shall speak inCyan

[Rendel Nep]

Sorry for the lack of response Ralasha, I hadn't actually decided.

[ShadowFireLance]

Damn it, I forgot to sub!

Also, Q will be speaking in Dark Red.

[ChrisClark13]

I'm in! Just gimme a while, currently killing a Black Dragon and my Detect Evil visor exploded when I tried to detect the level of it's Evil Aura (yes, it's a Scouter joke, and I'm kind of pissed). Now I'm flying 20 feet in the air and can't see anything.

[ShadowFireLance]

I'm in! Just gimme a while, currently killing a Black Dragon and my Detect Evil visor exploded when I tried to detect the level of it's Evil Aura. Now I'm flying 20 feet in the air and can't see anything.

xD Thats why you dont try to kill Dragons...:smallbiggrin::smalltongue:

[Ralasha]

No, that's why you turn off the visor when fighting them.

[ChrisClark13]

xD Thats why you dont try to kill Dragons...:smallbiggrin::smalltongue:

But I have to or else War will take over all of Olinia and Equestria, not to mention Luna and Celestia will likely die!

[ShadowFireLance]

But I have to or else War will take over all of Olinia and Equestria, not to mention Luna and Celestia will likely die!

...KEWL!!
Discord FTW!!!:smallcool:

[Ralasha]

*cough*bullcrap*cough*

Celestia is one of the homes of gods. Dragons are no threat to them.

[ChrisClark13]

But the Black Dragon is being powered by the god War and if I don't defeat him then Sleipnir won't be able to defeat War and save Luna! (War's Chaotic Evil! Discord is only Chaotic Neutral, I put up a Pantheon post in the recruiting thread.)

CLIIIMAAAAXXXXXXXXXXX

[ShadowFireLance]

*cough*bullcrap*cough*

Celestia is one of the homes of gods. Dragons are no threat to them.


*Cough*Utterawesome*Cough*

Tiamat, Falazure, and Inferndyim are Dragons powerful enough to threaten them... Considering that all of them a Gods...

[Ralasha]

*Cough*Utterawesome*Cough*

Tiamat, Falazure, and Inferndyim are Dragons powerful enough to threaten them... Considering that all of them a Gods...

But in that caswe, the unicorn being only level 5 would already be dead. Likewise had the dragon decided to attack. I think the Unicorn is very lucky that the dragon is ignoring it.

[ShadowFireLance]

But in that caswe, the unicorn being only level 5 would already be dead. Likewise had the dragon decided to attack. I think the Unicorn is very lucky that the dragon is ignoring it.

Of course...:smallcool:

[ChrisClark13]

So here's the fight so far:

Heroes barge in, my Griffon Gunslinger 5/Servant of Celestia 2 calls the Dragon out calling and calls him a PANSY!
The dragon shows up and I fire 3 rounds at him from my +1 Holy Revolver.
The rounds hit his magic barrier.
Our Rogue/Paladin of Freedom throws our Macguffin Rod of Cancellation at the barrier and it breaks.
I try to scan the Dragon's evil level, my visor/scouter shorts and I'm blinded.
Now we're just trying to beat the crap out of it and the fight's just started.

Edit: And it's going on in IRC right now, updates as stuff happens.

[-Jynx-]

@-Jynx-: I just looked at your character sheet and noticed that you got both bracers of armor and normal armor, those do not stack (read the description of bracers or armor).

Ah right you are I'll adjust that thanks for catching that!

[D4saken1]

Oh goodness I heard pony talk.

[ChrisClark13]

Here's the Equestrian Pantheon if anyone's interested and stuff.

Equestrian Pantheon
(Each God also has a non-pony name in case anyone else wants to follow one of them who isn't a pony.)
Celestia
The goddess of the sun, Celestia, is Lawful Good. Her titles include Sun Regent, True Light and Shining Justice. Celestia is a distant but caring deity. She keeps to herself, not interacting with any of the other gods directly, and only meeting with mortals under the guise of her mortal bound avatar. Known by all races for her majesty over the sun itself, Celestia also promotes honesty, kindness, generosity, and friendliness in all manners of life. The domains she is associated with are Healing, Sun, Protection, Law, and Good. Her favored weapon is the longsword, and she is worshipped by good fighters, paladins, good monks, and most of mortalkind.

She is known as Celes to the majority of her non-pony followers.
Epona (No not THAT Epona)
The goddess of exploration and travel, Epona is Neutral Good. Her titles are True Wayfarer and Trail Blazer. Shrines to her are common among roads both well used and far off, and temples erected for her can usually only be found in the most remote places of the world, only available to those who go right out of their way to find them. Bards, vagabonds, wandering adventurers, and traveling merchants favor Epona. The domains she is associated with are Travel, Earth, Water, and Good. Her favored weapon is the gauntlet.

She is known as Aina to the majority of her non-pony followers.
Luna
Luna, the goddess of the night and the moon, is Chaotic Good. She is known as Nightly Lady and Lunar Savant. She, unlike her sister, Celestia, constantly directly and indirectly confronts the other gods for all matters she finds need to. But like Celestia, she keeps a close, but elusive eye on the mortals using her avatar via means of dreams. Luna is the patron of teachers, scholars and mages, particularly good wizards. Because of her penchant for archery, she also has many good rangers in her ranks. The domains she is associated with are Good, Moon, Knowledge, Discord, and Magic. Her favored weapon is the longbow.

She is known as Selene to the majority of her non-pony followers.
Sleipnir
Sleipnir, the god of battle, scrimmages and skirmishes, is Lawful Neutral. His titles are God of War, Champion of Unity, Guardian of the Slain, and The Majesty. Sleipnir implores all of his followers to better themselves in all areas physical, teaching that a strong body leads to betterment in all other circles of life. He supports all forms of battle, be they large scale wars or individual skirmishes, advising all who follow him that should all else fail, they prove their might using their bodies. He does, however, reprimand any who use their power for unfair or evil gain. He favors good over evil, though he himself is not good. (His followers cannot be evil.) The domains he is associated with are War, Strength, Protection, and Law. His favored weapon is a warhammer inlaid with a red jewel on it's face.

He is still known as Sleipnir to his non-pony followers.
Inpu
Inpu, the god of supreme balance, is Neutral. His titles are The Balance, The Scale, and Two Toned Staff. He has few followers, but he requires none. Unlike the rest of the gods, Inpu draws his power from not prayer, but the balance found in all of existence itself. How he has done this is a mystery. His followers are typically those who've felt betrayed by the other gods, downtrodden by the haphazard dangers of life, or those who, like Inpu himself, seek to strike a balance in all things of the world, or, strangely enough, canine paladins who do not worship Celestia or Sleipnir. The domains he is associated with are Knowledge, Death, Destruction and Protection. His favored weapon is a quarterstaff that is half black metal, half white wood.

He is still known as Inpu to his non-pony followers.
Discord
Discord, the god of disharmony and discord, is Chaotic Neutral. His titles are Eternal Trickster and Entropic King. Discord teaches all of his followers to have fun whenever they can, try as hard as they can to be nice, and to be responsible only when it is called for. His priests and clerics put extra emphasis on eccentricism, almost all of his pious followers donning random patchwork like garments for everything from daily wear to (when appropriate, and praised when made possible) battle wear. Regardless of the haphazard lifestyles and attitudes his followers maintain, all of them keep a certain level of responsibility in mind. Or claim to. His followers tend to be the less serious of druids, fighters, and sorcerers, and some of the more conniving rogues. The domains he is associated with are Chaos, Luck, Healing, Trickery. His favored weapon is a longspear which is designed to act as a pogo stick on command.

He is known as Chaos to the majority of his non-pony followers.
Nightmare Moon
Nightmare Moon, the goddess of tyranny, subjugation and warfare, is Lawful Evil. Her titles are Dark Queen, Nebulous Empress, and Lunar Tyrannis. She implores dominion and subjugation among her leaders, and loyalty among the soldiers who follow them. She teaches that if one is to succeed, another must fail, without doubt. She teaches that at no time in life should one submit to another's will as long as the body is strong enough to resist. Among her ranks are evil fighters, barbarians, tactically minded rogues, those who appreciate her martial teachings, and even some monk monasteries have been founded under her strict philosophies. Absolutely all blackguards find themselves drawn to her at one point, many of which cling to her teachings and wisdom while she happily embraces them. The domains she is associated with are Evil, Law, Moon, and Strength. Her favored weapon is a bastard sword dubbed Darkside.

She is known as Merril to the majority of her non-pony followers.
Tirek
Tirek, the lesser god of knowledge, is Neutral Evil. He holds no titles, having been given none by his followers. He is newly ascended into godhood, after his 5000 year imprisonment in Hell by past generations of mortalkind. While imprisoned, Tirek took the power of the fires that contained him, and gleaned knowledge from the passing evil beings around him. He offers his mastery over the flames well as his vast knowledge to any of his willing followers. Despite this, Tirek has very few followers. While he does not necessarily associate himself as being evil, his methods and goals are primarily self centered, while not being overtly destructive or malign. This being said, those who wish to closely follow his teachings usually can do so with little scruples regardless of their preference of good over evil. (His clerics can be True Neutral or Neutral Good, but not Lawful Good or Chaotic Good). There is no distinguishable pattern among his followers, even his clerics ranking roughly in line with other classes. The domains he is associated with are Fire, Evil and Knowledge. His favored weapon is a lance with seven monochromatic ribbons attached around the base of the vemplate.

He is still known as Tirek to his non-pony followers
War
The king of slaughter, destruction and mayhem, War, is Chaotic Evil. His titles include King of Carnage, Lord of Ragnarök, Bloodmonger, and Eternal Warrior. War teaches methods of destruction to the smart, techniques of slaughter to the tough, and the principles of mayhem to the cunning. War's sole purpose is to bring about the total and utter null existence of all things living, including other gods. He is the perfect amalgamation of everything negative imaginable, all exemplified within one being. His clerics worship him out of either fear or respect. Those who fear offer sacrifices and tributes to appease and calm him, while those who respect fight in his name for the sole sake of bloodshed. Among his followers are intelligent undead, insane necromancers, brutal warriors, evil outsiders, and anyone who shares his ideals of a world where only suffering exists for weak mortals. The domains he is associated with are Chaos, Death, Destruction, Evil, and War. His favored weapon is a morningstar comprised of a black metal shaft with an iron spiked skull set on top. No one to date knows what species the skull belongs to.

He is known as Tyrl to the majority of his non-pony followers.

[Crazyfailure13]

Hey shadowfirelance we aren't in the bar so I dont think you can be swinging down on us.

[MHerbert]

Oh goodness I heard pony talk.

Might happen a fair bit pal.
We've got an Inquisitor Pony in the group

[D4saken1]

Might happen a fair bit pal.
We've got an Inquisitor Pony in the group
https://forums.playfire.com/_proxy/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.dakkadakka.com%2Fgallery% 2F2011%2F7%2F7%2F244014-Cute%2C%2520Humor%2C%2520Inquisition%2C%2520Inquis itor%2C%2520My%2520Little%2520Pony%2C%2520Pony.png&hmac=9207b678bb6541f8a74398dee899e7db

Im good as long as we don't start saying everypony instead of everybody.

Also where is the dice roller forum? I used the d&d dice roller while i look.

[Ralasha]

You make rolls in the IC thread. If you don't know the dice commands, I'm sure that several of us can enlighten you.

[MHerbert]

Tadaaaaa, for they explain it better than I could, and have all the dice formula.
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100917

[Rendel Nep]

OK, so if we have a pony from Equestria, then it's perfectly fine for there to be a Dwarf from Faerun. By the way, the village is called Auvandell.

[Sinpoder]

Well.. Lets see if little Mikey is going to make some cash today and make some new outsider friends :)

[ShadowFireLance]

Who exactly IS in the bar?

[Ralasha]

me, the drow, the dwarf, and the south american dragon... hanging from the rafters talking to people that aren't there.

Oh yeah, and Herals the insane sock worshiping goblin.

[Rendel Nep]

Ovdal definitely is.

[ShadowFireLance]

me, the drow, the dwarf, and the south american dragon... hanging from the rafters talking to people that aren't there.

Oh yeah, and Herals the insane sock worshiping goblin.

Ah, And not the south America dragon..a Young Couatl...:smallcool:

[MHerbert]

Also the Halfling Tiefling sitting in the corner.
Who can hear absolutely everything that is going on inside.
Good god I love that 36 perception roll.

[Sinpoder]

Michael is currently helping the gravekeepers do their jobs, with his Hulk Strength and what not... it will be fun.. everyone wins.. the Gravekeepers has a big strong guy helping them and Michael gets to help his friends.

[Ralasha]

You must be able to hear what people renting private rooms are doing... eew. I feel so bad for you. It's like being superman... you hear what everyone everywhere is doing.... all the time.

[ShadowFireLance]

Also the Halfling Tiefling sitting in the corner.
Who can hear absolutely everything that is going on inside.
Good god I love that 36 perception roll.

Tefling...:smallcool:
Someone to talk to!

[MHerbert]

He's 65, he's used that Elixir of Vision dozens of times.
I'd imagine that he's pretty used to having to hear "background noise" while eavesdropping.

[ShadowFireLance]

He's 65, he's used that Elixir of Vision dozens of times.
I'd imagine that he's pretty used to having to hear "background noise" while eavesdropping.

...The things that you must hear...:smalltongue:

[D4saken1]

im out for the night, terrible eye headache. just feel free to have lan tag along as things progress and I will catch up on reading. If combat ensues or you need his skills feel free to roll them since his sheet is viewable.

[Crazyfailure13]

Lets see,

Catfolk Barbarian
Human Samurai
Changling Rogue
Hobgoblin Gunslinger

I've never seen a better party to hunt dragons with.... aside from one with a healer.

[MHerbert]

Anyone who's been in the town in the last few days would probably know that a very short Tiefling frequenting/living at the tavern has been trying to find employment as a surgeon with alchemical healing tools. Unsuccessfully.

He also has anesthetic.
Glorious, glorious anesthetic.

Edit:
Either that or you could all convert to the church of the Great Left Sock.

[Crazyfailure13]

Hired! Are we talking morphine or something stronger.

[MHerbert]

We're talking something strong enough that anyone who has it and knows how to use it gets Skill Focus (Heal).
But we're probably talking something rough, ready, and strong.

I can also craft poisons, so I can make knockout drugs there.
I can craft a lot of things actually.
Alchemical tools are the best tools.

[Crazyfailure13]

Whats the your healers price?

[MHerbert]

Case by case basis, but cheap.
More if you can afford it, less if you can't, no cost if you're impoverished/poor.
Minimum base price is 5gp, that's cost of tools (i.e. Healer's kit).
Alchemical healing is more.

[Crazyfailure13]

Well then, how about Aerus has pre-hired you, with promises of a dragons hoard and 40 gp ahead of time.

[ShadowFireLance]

Well then, how about Aerus has pre-hired you, with promises of a dragons hoard and 40 gp ahead of time.

WHAT? :smalltongue:

[MHerbert]

Sure.
Lorenz is still waiting in the tavern though.
Plus you might want to commission a few Potions of Cure Light Wounds from him, it's much quicker to heal via potions/extracts if you chug them yourselves, (and he can only make so many "free" ones per day).

Price is 3/4 market price for all friends.

He's still wanting an equal share of the Dragon's loot however.

[Crazyfailure13]

Well it would make sense to hire a healer while trying to find a dragon, and hes selling.

An equal share will be 1/5 at this point,

Of course thats assuming brass dragon won't shoot down the dragon plan when he logs in and posts.

[Ralasha]

Halfling Tiefling. He wasn't here before, or Cora'd be talking to the only other halfling she's seen in some time.

[ShadowFireLance]

Well it would make sense to hire a healer while trying to find a dragon, and hes selling.

True, True....:smallcool:
Though, You all DO need to have a Wizard, It's almost...Like a Need...:smallcool:

[MHerbert]

He was in the Tavern from the second response in the IC thread.
Sitting in the corner, barely able to see over the top of the table...
I rolled 2 1's on the 2d4 for height.

He is literally the 3rd shortest any player character can get at 2 foot 10.
Only Goblins, Kobolds and Grippli can get shorter.

[Rendel Nep]

Either that or you could all convert to the church of the Great Left Sock.

The dwarf is at least is willing to hear him out, at least for a laugh.

[MHerbert]

Regardless of potential shoot down by DM, that can be a long term goal.
Heck, when I DM (though I suck), I incorporate that stuff into the story (i.e. that Dragon might be in the way of a place you need to get to, or be threatening someone you need to get on your side).

[Ralasha]

This... 'dwarf' is trying to be respectful, and therefor trying to ignore the priest of the great left sock, as that is better than openly mocking him, which her laughter most assuredly would.

I'm surprised the drow isn't here.

[Crazyfailure13]

Hey shadowfirelance, OOC what is your race like? Cant find it.

[Brass Dragon]

YOU WANT A DRAGON? YOU SHALL HAVE IT! BWAHAHAHA!!


but you'll have to wait a bit, because like i said the first few levels are pre-mades to see how the party meshes, and what pre-made set next to an ancient graveyard would have you fighting a dragon?


though i might throw in a draco-lich, if you want me to

[Ralasha]

I don't want a dragon yet. I need to get a few items first. Which means I'll need money, lots of money... and stuff.

I should have made a wandering Mastercrafter. Would have been awesome.

I would just use a modified version of the Expert class. Skill Focus and other feats. And skill Mastery. Oh look, I'm a true Master Crafter.

I craft jewlery, gems, trinkets, clothing, armor, weapons, equipment, etc. All of it magical! All of it made by ME!

With a discount on crafting items, of course. I shall call it... The Battle Tinker.

I break your weapons, rend your armor, slice your magical bag, and we all go into some other random plane of existence!

on another note, I believe we should pause for other inactive player's to catch up.

[ShadowFireLance]

YOU WANT A DRAGON? YOU SHALL HAVE IT! BWAHAHAHA!!


but you'll have to wait a bit, because like i said the first few levels are pre-mades to see how the party meshes, and what pre-made set next to an ancient graveyard would have you fighting a dragon?


though i might throw in a draco-lich, if you want me to

I bet you 10 gold I can Negotiate with it...:smallcool:

Though, Really, I am probabally going to poke you repetedally if you mess him up...:smalltongue:

[Ralasha]

on another note, I believe we should pause for other inactive players to catch up.

So let it be said, I tried to be fair to everyone else.

[Crazyfailure13]

IF i suggested a dracolich it would probably break the player stupidity you talked about in recruitment

[ShadowFireLance]

IF i suggested a dracolich it would probably break the player stupidity you talked about in recruitment
Yea...no, A Young Green Dragon Could not be a Dracolich...


Oh yeah, Here:
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=269502

[MHerbert]

Mastercrafter? Why?
Say next rank I neglect my major skills
9 Skill points spending 1 in relevant Craft skill
Also 250gp on a Traveler's Any-Tool

1 Skill Points
3 Class Skill
5 Intelligence Modifier
5 Crafter's Fortune
2 Traveler's Any-Tool counting as a Masterwork Tool

+16 to each of those Skills with only 1 skill point, a singular purchase of a cheap magic item, and a level 1 spell for the day used.

Yay, Alchemists.

Even without a skill point i've still got +12

[Ralasha]

Yes? But I still do not require magic to make magical items, and I have a portable smithy, a smithy of course, still being required to make rings, amulets, most weapons/armors, etc.

[Crazyfailure13]

Oh yeah when I said young, I didn't mean the age catagory just meant young :p

[ShadowFireLance]

I think i might be re-looking over my build..:smallcool:

[MHerbert]

But to purchase that feat you need to have 5 ranks in that specific Craft skill.
And you can only craft magic items directly relating to the Craft skill you specify when you take the Master Craftsman feat.

Which means to craft lots of types of Magic Items you need to use lots of skill points and lots of talents.

[Ralasha]

And I am fully intending to be able to 'Mastercraft' Weapons, armor and Jewelry. Which will cover most of the important magical items. Ear-ring of Intellect!

Body Harness of Hardiness!

[Sinpoder]

I am just waiting for our DM to tell me how much money i made off digging graves..

[MHerbert]

Let me see if i've got this right.

So to craft a specific type of Magic item, lets say Armour.
First you need to have 5 Ranks in Craft (Armour).
Then you need to purchase the Feat Master Craftsman (Armour)
Then you need to purchase the Feat Craft Magic Arms and Armour, using your Ranks in Craft (Armour) as your caster level.
After that you can craft Magic Armour.

However after that, to craft Magic Weapon you need
5 Ranks in Craft (Weapons) (and this doesn't include bows)
To purchase the Feat Master Craftsman (Weapons)

And if you want to craft something other than Weapon or Armour, such as jewlery you have to...
5 Ranks
Master Craftsman (Jewlery)
Craft Wondrous Item

The utility of crafting every magic item is nice, but still.
Just to get the above 3 you need.
A minimum of 15 Skill points
3 Master Craftsman Feats
Craft Magic Arms and Armour
Craft Wondrous Items

That's 5 feats total.
All non-combat so you have to get them through normal progression.
Also seeing as you can't buy Master Craftsman until level 5.
That's level 13 before you can craft them all.

[ShadowFireLance]

I think i might be saving up for 150K, Anyone want to help me get to that?

[Ralasha]

So? What's your point? I am doing so because we do not have a magical item maker. A spellcaster just has to get the item creation feats.

I'm not a spellcaster. Which means I can make ANY magical item, while others are limited on what spells they have.

I'll be able to make Gauntlets of Heal (3/day), or even (at will).

I don't see anyone else that can ever do that in this group.

[MHerbert]

I'm interested in crafting an Alchemical Dragon...
The best part is it's a Craft (Alchemy) check to fly it.

Also costs 100K...
Fun.

[Crazyfailure13]

Im waiting for the results of Aerus' knock, they need a door bell.

[ShadowFireLance]

I'm interested in crafting an Alchemical Dragon...
The best part is it's a Craft (Alchemy) check to fly it.

Also costs 100K...
Fun.

Why that? I can carry you, Easy.

[MHerbert]

Mainly I was questioning the cost/benefit effectiveness of spending so many feats on the crafting of items when we could convince a hapless fool to do so for us.
Even better force him to do so.
Economically so of course.
Nothing better than economics pressure.

Or someone takes the Leadership feat and gets a Hedge Wizard companion who just crafts every magic item we need, and we buy the rest.

[ShadowFireLance]

Mainly I was questioning the cost/benefit effectiveness of spending so many feats on the crafting of items when we could convince a hapless fool to do so for us.
Even better force him to do so.
Economically so of course.
Nothing better than economics pressure.

Or someone takes the Leadership feat and gets a Hedge Wizard companion who just crafts every magic item we need, and we buy the rest.

Im going to take Leadership, Can't Promise the Hedge Wizard, But i can promise more...

Side note: I might be The Constructer....:smallcool: soon.

[MHerbert]

Why that? I can carry you, Easy.

Sure that's fun.
But do you explode when you crash (unless I make an epic DC30 Craft (Alchemy) check, which admittedly by the stage we're buying that at, it'll be a pittance).
Do you have a max speed of 100ft?
Can I attach 6 large cannons to your sides, each enchanted with different types of damage?

[Brass Dragon]

Mainly I was questioning the cost/benefit effectiveness of spending so many feats on the crafting of items when we could convince a hapless fool to do so for us.
Even better force him to do so.
Economically so of course.
Nothing better than economics pressure.

Or someone takes the Leadership feat and gets a Hedge Wizard companion who just crafts every magic item we need, and we buy the rest.

forgot to say, no leadership, dont want a party of 6 thousand

[Ralasha]

I'm planning on taking Leadership actually...

I could always get a Dwarven Expert, a Mastercrafter, as a cohort. Then nobody is wasting any feats... aside from the Cohort. Or, I could get a Cleric to take the necessary feats...

****! How about no Followers? I'm just planning on having the Cohort make items anyway!

[MHerbert]

forgot to say, no leadership, dont want a party of 6 thousand

Instead of leadership can we just do it the old fashioned way?
Knocking out a Wizard and dragging him off with us on adventures while he crafts everything we would want?

[ShadowFireLance]

Sure that's fun.
But do you explode when you crash (unless I make an epic DC30 Craft (Alchemy) check, which admittedly by the stage we're buying that at, it'll be a pittance).
Do you have a max speed of 100ft?
Can I attach 6 large cannons to your sides, each enchanted with different types of damage?

Nah, I dont explode, I just shake myself off and move on.

I can get that, Easy.
No....But I'm a Wizard. :smallcool:

[Crazyfailure13]

Instead of leadership can we just do it the old fashioned way?
Knocking out a Wizard and dragging him off with us on adventures while he crafts everything we would want?


Yes why waste a feat :)

[Brass Dragon]

Instead of leadership can we just do it the old fashioned way?
Knocking out a Wizard and dragging him off with us on adventures while he crafts everything we would want?

if you follow my campaign and dont kill the right npc, you'll have a crafter following you about, though he might charge 60% rather than 50

he will also be a source of income, though there are conditions

[Sinpoder]

How many souls did i get.... just roll like.. 5d100s and that is how many souls i get :smallbiggrin:

[Brass Dragon]

How many souls did i get.... just roll like.. 5d100s and that is how many souls i get :smallbiggrin:

you get one, its daily

[razorback]

Crap, I was typing when BD put his note up.
Putting it here until he decides what is what tomorrow.

The old man hobbled down the road, a small pot of honey in one hand and a decrepit looking walking stick in the other. Every once in a while he would stop and stick his finger in the pot, right index finger only, before continuing to walk on while sucking on his finger. Anyone passing by wondered at the old didn't say anything.

As he walked up to the sign that read 'Night Falls' in a childish hand in white wash on the plain and very old wood, he hummed to himself

"So, this is nowhere
and nowhere this is.
I wonder where the
drinks do flow
and the orc sits."

Satisfied with his little ditty, he laughs and walks into town, with town being a very large stretch of the word.
Looking at the dingy building and guessing, correctly, that this is the local watering hole, he walks in. Seeing the hustle and bustle of activity, he dodges everyone walking around in the cramped room. Tilting his pileus back but not off his head, he walks up to the bar.
"Do you have any juice? If not, some wine might do, might do." With that he gives a 'hehehe' laugh that turns into a hacking cough. "Whichever is fine, young lad, whichever. Also, do you have a local church that I can pay my respects to? A tired old traveler, I be, and any small token I can leave for the gods so they may speed my safe and long journey is worth it in my eyes." With that he grins at the barkeep, showing a half full mouth of rotten teeth.
After getting his drink and paying out for it in copper pieces, one at at time, counting three times with an evil eye at the barkeep as if he were trying to rob him, he hobbles to a free table and sits, smelling his drink with a blanch before sipping it.
As the women, obviously a drow and just as obviously beautiful, walks in, he laugh and cackles as all the eyes in the room follow her.
"A rose with poison thorns do be more tempting than one without." and laughs to himself.

As the goblin prattles on about his sock god, the old man's face turns stern but no one was looking at him. Smooth again, he says to the goblin. "What kind of trick do he do? I mean, besides the obvious of keeping your hand warm."

[Sinpoder]

Is it?.... well ****... I guess I am going to have to get a upgraded version or carry around one of those son of a bitches in a jar or something...

[MHerbert]

Hold on I...
I....
I'm thinking of taking Master Craftsman (Alchemy)...

This means I can craft any potion I want, regardless if it's on the Alchemist's spell list.
In addition my Potion crafting will not lose me spells for the day.
I can make us any potion we desire at or under 3rd level.
From any spell list.
Without encountering the spell.
While retaining all my Extracts/Spells for the day.
At half the market price.
THE UTILITY! THINK OF THE UTILITY!

The Talent only restricts Spell Trigger and Spell Completion items.
And potions are Use Activated.

Therefore I can.
Prove me wrong.

[ShadowFireLance]

Is it?.... well ****... I guess I am going to have to get a upgraded version or carry around one of those son of a bitches in a jar or something...

Lolololololol :smallbiggrin:

[Ralasha]

You have the Brew Potion item creation feat? Good job, potion of stoneskin.

[MHerbert]

You have the Brew Potion item creation feat? Good job, potion of stoneskin.

Start off with it.
Alchemist's special.

Is it too late to modify my character's starting feats?
Because if not, begone Iron Will, i'll see you again at Level 7.

Edit:
Stoneskin is one of the reasons that I want the feat.
Alchemists have a really restricted spell list.

Edit edit:
GAH! Hate messing that stuff up.

Edit edit edit:
I can't craft Stoneskin as a potion, it's 4th level...
For everyone except the summoner.
BWAAA HAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAA
System breaking!
Cower before my potion crafting wrath.

As per system rules I still have to get to level 7 before I can craft that potion however.

[Ralasha]

Talents are not feats.

[Crazyfailure13]

Is it?.... well ****... I guess I am going to have to get a upgraded version or carry around one of those son of a bitches in a jar or something...

Go ahead link. :smallsmile:

[Sinpoder]

Seriously... I need a much much better way of doing it... how much would something cost for something that is at base 5.4k 1/day to make it at will. Someone do the math for me because I don't know it with Pathfinder.

[Ralasha]

It depends on what is being done 1/day. Cure minor at will is around 2300 gold in a wand. at will.

[MHerbert]

Wait....
Noooooooooooooooooooooo!
Calamity of calamities.

I cannot perform cheesy system breaking stuff with potions.

You are only capable of creating Magic Items if you don't have the spell, by increasing the DC by +5. This applies for the crafting of all magical items, so Master Craftsman technically also increases the crafting DC by 5.

They errata'd the potions section so that you need the spells to craft and cannot increase the DC by 5 to go without as an exception to the rule...

Noooooooooooo!

[Ralasha]

Thus I remain the only broken one!


http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/r-z/talisman-of-soul-eating

[ShadowFireLance]

Anyone know of a way to craft a object without arms? :smallconfused:

[Ralasha]

You can't. If you'd like I can craft you some magical barding... which I can make complete with magical arms. I promise you a fair price.

[ShadowFireLance]

You can't. If you'd like I can craft you some magical barding... which I can make complete with magical arms. I promise you a fair price.

Huh, This is for a different game, But Im still attempting to hunt down a way to craft items without Arms...:smallcool:

[Ralasha]

Damnit~! My mechinations have been foiled. I was going to make it a called item tuned to me. So I could unarmor you at any time I so choose.

[Crazyfailure13]

You didnt find a way around the arm thing yet?

[ShadowFireLance]

You didnt find a way around the arm thing yet?

I could use graft's, But I severely like my GP! :smallcool:

[oyzar]

This... 'dwarf' is trying to be respectful, and therefor trying to ignore the priest of the great left sock, as that is better than openly mocking him, which her laughter most assuredly would.

I'm surprised the drow isn't here.

Posting while sleeping is hard.

I sleep for 6 hours and 5 pages pop up in this thread :smalleek: (a bit too much discussion about how you can abuse the game though... The GM did say he would adjust the game for abuse.) Great to see that people are interested in the game, but gming a game at this speed is going to be near a full time job.

[Ralasha]

Oh yes! I've totally been breaking the system! look at all of those artifacts I've made! *rolls eyes*

[ShadowFireLance]

Posting while sleeping is hard.

I sleep for 6 hours and 5 pages pop up in this thread :smalleek: (a bit too much discussion about how you can abuse the game though... The GM did say he would adjust the game for abuse.) Great to see that people are interested in the game, but gming a game at this speed is going to be near a full time job.

That's why the smart people Dm Games with ~1 per day posting rates...:smallcool:

[Ralasha]

That's also why good players pause for others. (Like I suggested, and most likely wouldn't have happened without my request.)

[oyzar]

unfortunately, your attempts at seduction fail, for reasons only implied.
he does however go over some interesting stories his "roommate" had shared with him, regarding a few botched burials.

Wow, either he got over 30 cha and unfriendly or he is openly hostile (why did he not attack yet? and still at 22 cha or higher) Or you are adjusting the rules to follow your whim (which I am fine with as diplomacy got potential to break the game, it does make the skillpoints spent there close to wasted though.)

[Ralasha]

I think the DM means the barkeep leans in the other direction... as far as attraction.

[ShadowFireLance]

I think the DM means the barkeep leans in the other direction... as far as attraction.

...:smalleek::smallyuk:

[oyzar]

Seducing, clearly misinterpriting things. I was only trying to make him friendly enough to share what was happening. Gotta read the entire IC before I post more though...

[Crazyfailure13]

If you write something describing curves and sex appeal and then roll diplomacy, its easily misinterpreted as seduction attempt.

[Ralasha]

Seduction is generally bluff in my crowd. Diplomacy is for changing attitudes. Getting someone to do something is bluff.

[oyzar]

Getting someone to do something is usually diplomacy (convincing). Tricking someone to do something is bluff.


putting a suspension on posting until tomorrow morning

anything posted between now and my next post will be disregarded

That's kinda mean for the people living in odd timezones not allowing them to post yet (only a fractions of the people from the pregame thread have posted).

[Ralasha]

Seduction is: tricking someone into doing something. Thus, Seduction is bluff.

Fast talking is also bluff.

[Crazyfailure13]

Diplomacy changes attitudes, you can change attitudes with seduction, in fact its commonplace.

But the dm has ruled diplomacy for seduction and his word is law:smallsmile:

[oyzar]

Seduction is the act of making someone attracted to you. Whether it is used to trick someone or not depends on intent.

And yes making someone attracted to you IS changing their attitude(even if seduction is not the only way to do so of course).

[Ralasha]

You can also use intimidate to seduce someone. Heh, you just have to be more... creative.

[oyzar]

Too bad my character did not get to chat with yours at the bar ralasha:smallfrown:.

[Ralasha]

We still have the chance, we just have to wait. I also have the Drow language. :P

Actually we can still interact and talk, we just can't do anything official.

[Silver Swift]

Wow, went to bed with maybe four posts in the OOC thread and none in the IC thread, woke up to this :smalleek:.

Here is my introduction post, which I will post in the IC thread as soon as we are allowed to do so again.

Kyron overheard the conversation between the samurai, the cat and the girl, ready to step in if things got out of hand. After hearing the rest of the conversation he approaches the group, lowering his hood to reveal his scaled face.

Excuse me, I couldn't help but overhear your conversation, would you perhaps have use of another pair of able arms... and some other able appendages? His cloak flutters up as his tentacles unwrap and appear from behind it.

[Rendel Nep]

Yeah, It'll be interesting to see what time zone this game favours.

[Crazyfailure13]

It's going to be interesting to see how a game with this many players works, unless we split into seperate parties

[razorback]

Yeah, It'll be interesting to see what time zone this game favours.

Wow, went to bed with maybe four posts in the OOC thread and none in the IC thread, woke up to this .

That's kinda mean for the people living in odd timezones not allowing them to post yet (only a fractions of the people from the pregame thread have posted).

Hmmm, whoever made the table (Ralasha I think), can you also add a timezone table?
PST or UTC-8

[Ralasha]

If you want a table, copy pasta and add in the TZ column.

[oyzar]

We still have the chance, we just have to wait. I also have the Drow language. :P

Actually we can still interact and talk, we just can't do anything official.

I'll respond when I finish work. Should have done it this morning, sorry.:smallfrown:

[Ralasha]

How long before you finish work?

I'm heading to bed. I'll be back in the afternoon.

[Rendel Nep]

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Peregrine Crow|Half Elf|Aegis| Kyron (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=509740)|LG|+1, Apr +2
ChrisClark13|Unicorn|Inquisitor|Grey (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=509194)|LG
ngilop|Human|Mighty Godlin|Kreoc (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=508196)|CG
Swami Monsoon|Catfolk|Oracle|Tom Underhill (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=508423)|CG
Razorback|Samsaran|Inquisitor/Monk|Lerrin Exlin (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=499566)|LN|-8
ShadowFireLance|Quetzal|Wizard|Quazoratal (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=507056)|LN
Ralasha|Half-Giant Halfling|Fighter|Cora Dale (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=507869)|TN
Crazyfailure13|Catfolk|Barbarian|Aerus (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=507673)|TN
MHerbert|Tiefling|Alchemist|Lorenz Varren (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=507846)|TN
Icilia|Goblin|Cleric|Herald (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=507877)|TN
Rokku|Elan|Cryptic|Kellis Venn (http://plothook.net/RPG/profiler/view.php?id=11839)|CN
Jynx|Human|Samurai|Tensu (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=508633)|CN
D4saken1|Hobgoblin|Gunslinger|Lannan Montique (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=508718)|CN
Not a paladin|Changeling|Rogue|June Wolsey (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=509699)|CN
oyzar|Drow|Ninja/Sorceror|Cyzra (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=509428)|NE
Sinpoder|Human|Fighter|Michael Capolitare (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=509655)|NE
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[Silver Swift]

I'm UTC+1, UTC+2 from april onwards.

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Peregrine Crow|Half Elf|Aegis| Kyron (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=509740)|LG| UTC+1, April UTC+2
ChrisClark13|Unicorn|Inquisitor|Grey (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=509194)|LG
ngilop|Human|Mighty Godlin|Kreoc (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=508196)|CG
Swami Monsoon|Catfolk|Oracle|Tom Underhill (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=508423)|CG
Razorback|Samsaran|Inquisitor/Monk|Lerrin Exlin (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=499566)|LN|UTC-8
ShadowFireLance|Quetzal|Wizard|Quazoratal (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=507056)|LN
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Icilia|Goblin|Cleric|Herald (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=507877)|TN
Rokku|Elan|Cryptic|Kellis Venn (http://plothook.net/RPG/profiler/view.php?id=11839)|CN
Jynx|Human|Samurai|Tensu (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=508633)|CN
D4saken1|Hobgoblin|Gunslinger|Lannan Montique (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=508718)|CN
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oyzar|Drow|Ninja/Sorceror|Cyzra (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=509428)|NE
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[razorback]

If you want a table, copy pasta

I'll try this for dinner...

[Brass Dragon]

Diplomacy changes attitudes, you can change attitudes with seduction, in fact its commonplace.

But the dm has ruled diplomacy for seduction and his word is law:smallsmile:

never said such thing, if its done right i dont care what skill you seduce with, it could be intimidate for all i care, though that might only work on masos.

[Brass Dragon]

Wow, either he got over 30 cha and unfriendly or he is openly hostile (why did he not attack yet? and still at 22 cha or higher) Or you are adjusting the rules to follow your whim (which I am fine with as diplomacy got potential to break the game, it does make the skillpoints spent there close to wasted though.)

its hard to seduce a homosexual, happy that i had to kill the magic of implication? (someone said this already, but im confirming his suspicion)

also, i'm on GMT - 7

[oyzar]

its hard to seduce a homosexual, happy that i had to kill the magic of implication? (someone said this already, but im confirming his suspicion)

also, i'm on GMT - 7

No I was not disagreeing with you, I have no problem with the way people bend nor did i fail to understand what you implied. I was merly stating that what my character did was not really seduction BUT it could be viewed as such if the opposing party was interested.

I am GMT+1.

[Swami Monsoon]

GMT-6 here.

[ChrisClark13]

GMT -7 over here.

Almost done with Grey now, just need to pick his spells and feats and write up his backstory.

[Ralasha]

Well, unfortunately I have to go help my relatives on their farm... I'll be bacck in a few hours. Honestly, if I didn't work out there so often... I probably wouldn't be in such wonderful condition... or shape

[oyzar]

Well, unfortunately I have to go help my relatives on their farm... I'll be bacck in a few hours. Honestly, if I didn't work out there so often... I probably wouldn't be in such wonderful condition... or shape

Bah and I just got around to posting after eating dinner etc as well :smallfrown:.

[MHerbert]

*yawn*, Morning all
I live at GMT +11

[Crazyfailure13]

Honestly have no idea what GMT I am, or what it means, General Mountain Time?

[MHerbert]

...First thing on google
(GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, it's essentially the same as Coordinated Universal Time (UTC)
It's how far away your time zone is from time in Greenwich.

You can find the GMT of where you live rather easily, might even be on Wikipedia.

[Silver Swift]

Hey guys, some personal stuff came up and I won't be able to post here for an as of yet undetermined amount of time, so I will be dropping out now. You can do with my character whatever you like, if I'm back soonish (not likely) and it is more or less feasible I will join back in.

[Rendel Nep]

UTC also drops daylights savings which is relevant because we're not all in the same hemisphere and when daylight savings is observed depends on whatever legislation passed it. NZ and Australia some states in Australia start and finish DLS on different dates for example. UTC is usually given on the wikipedia page.

[Sinpoder]

I have no idea what my GMT is... I like in Nebraska in the US... so you guys can figure that out...

[oyzar]

Michael would walk back into the bar, after finishing his work, and then he would see acouple things. One he would see a rather attractive drow, which he would only look at her for a moment before leaving her alone as Michael knew Drow women were not some people that you want to mess with. He also saw several people talking, though he didn't really pay attention to them, as he was more focused on avoiding the Drow women.

Michael would then walk over to the bar and ordered a drink. Michael was wearing his full Hellknight Armor, which made him stand out but he did not mind as he let the halfling do as he pleases, as he often did as he made plans to get into contact with his contracts for some of his gems.

Mixing tenses makes it somewhat awkward to read your posts. Previous games I have played in have had rules that everyone should post in present tense, but I don't see any problem in posting in past tense either as long as you don't switch midpost (or even midsentence). Writing future tense does look somewhat strange though as if you are describing things that have yet to happen. I also think it would be more imersive if you posted the actual thoughts and speech of your character (either in quotes or color, or both). This is just ment as constructive criticism to make the game more fun for everyone.


Well, unfortunately I have to go help my relatives on their farm... I'll be bacck in a few hours. Honestly, if I didn't work out there so often... I probably wouldn't be in such wonderful condition... or shape
And then it is my turn to be off again :smallmad:, hard to rp with short posts when we are not on at the same time.

[Ralasha]

I'm on now, and tomorrow I shouldn't be absent.

Micheal wouldn't like the halfling either if he doesn't like his women Drow. Dwarves after all, are very similar... the only real difference being that the women let the men think they are in power.

[D4saken1]

Busy at work today and not heading home after. Just popped on before I forgot.

Lannan will be considered to have gone back to the inn. Party members can use him (skills/combat/etc) if the story progresses just assume he follows.

[razorback]

*yawn*, Morning all
I live at GMT +11

Is Syndey near Sydney?

[Ralasha]

Ahk. I'm getting tired already. Well, I only got like 4 hours of sleep, so I suppose I shouldn't really be surprised.

[MHerbert]

Sydney. Just corrected it.
More accurately the North Sydney area.

I hate my infinite capacity for minor but embarrassing spelling errors.

[-Jynx-]

I am EST time (GMT -5 I believe)

[Ralasha]

I am -6 GMT, though it's irrelevant really, as I tend to travel a bit.

[Swami Monsoon]

I'm going to have to bow out of this game.
Good luck all...

[Sinpoder]

I am sorry when I wrote that post I was half asleep much like I am right now....... I am just out of it right now.... And I am slowly losing interest in dnd all together, this might be due to the fact that I am so tired and I realized that most of my plans for this character are going to cost a lot of money but that is irrelevant. I am going to have to see how I feel later to decided if I wish to bow out or not.

[oyzar]

@ Brass Dragon: When are you planning for the IC plot to start? I think a lot of people are waiting for that to start posting more frequently. The longer you wait the more likely it is that people fall off (though I don't have an overview if there are anyone who have not finished their characters). I am not sure if that is a bad thing seeing as we are a massivly oversides party at the moment though.

[Brass Dragon]

@ Brass Dragon: When are you planning for the IC plot to start? I think a lot of people are waiting for that to start posting more frequently. The longer you wait the more likely it is that people fall off (though I don't have an overview if there are anyone who have not finished their characters). I am not sure if that is a bad thing seeing as we are a massivly oversides party at the moment though.

just began, though it's late, had a busy day today so couldnt post much

[ChrisClark13]

Hmm... after looking through some "tips and tricks" guides I suddenly want a Magic Item of Prestidigitation, though I'm not sure what slot I put it in? One that's mostly unused would be great.

I AM planning on jumping into the IC as soon as Grey is done.

[Ralasha]

Is it weird that I find the actor that plays Castiel hot?

In other news! Someone come get the Giantling and the Drow so we can go do stuff other than get drunk off of our asses.

[MHerbert]

The "Help, help, evil ghost" yell was apparently able to be heard in the tavern.
Thus why the Tiefling and monk are running outside.

[Ralasha]

Ghosts aren't evil, they just have unfinished business. I'm Neutral, so help, help, evil ghost! gets the reply of: What's in it for me? Zombies Whites etc are a different matter however.

[MHerbert]

Mainly it was the whole "ghost is free" aspect that made me consider it "evil".
Generally when a group imprisons a ghost it's either because the ghost is a Grade A j*ckass or the group imprisoning it is.
Either way it's time for some Bomb throwing.

[oyzar]

Ghosts aren't evil, they just have unfinished business. I'm Neutral, so help, help, evil ghost! gets the reply of: What's in it for me? Zombies Whites etc are a different matter however.

My character is interested in what might have happened, even if she does not particulary feel like helping one way or another. Though better safe than sorry, right? Sorry for "Leaving you hanging".:smallwink:

[Ralasha]

Meh, though as she follows one of the things the Halfling will have said is a formal introduction, meaning her formal name and titles.

[Rendel Nep]

For better or worse, following the screams seems to be the thing to do. Same thing goes for fire.

[-Jynx-]

Tensu shows up, since he was on his way there anyway and overheard the screams though he'll be more interesting in killing it. Simply as another challenge to complete, as is his nature.

[Ralasha]

Good luck, your samurai is no match for a properly constructed fighter.

[-Jynx-]

Good luck, your samurai is no match for a properly constructed fighter.

lol really wanna go there right now?

[Ralasha]

If you didn't you shouldn't have been goading a Dwarf, or insulting her honor. Yes, I said a Dwarf. Did you forget her upbringing, or just not bother with reading about it?

[-Jynx-]

If you didn't you shouldn't have been goading a Dwarf, or insulting her honor. Yes, I said a Dwarf. Did you forget her upbringing, or just not bother with reading about it?

You confuse snide remarks with challenges. Nothing he said was of threat or insult to you merely disagreeing of your method of approach. I can see how you'd be confused.

Edit: At least not at first

[Ralasha]

And insult is an insult is an insult. Any insult is an insult against honor. Any insult against honor must be met by formal challenge.

You do not face some half-educated Shield-dwarf. You face a Mountain Dwarf, trained and educated in the old ways of honor.

[MHerbert]

http://fireden.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/no-fighting.jpg.jpeg

Oooookay.
I'll admit, didn't see this coming that quickly.

[-Jynx-]

And insult is an insult is an insult. Any insult is an insult against honor. Any insult against honor must be met by formal challenge.

You do not face some half-educated Shield-dwarf. You face a Mountain Dwarf, trained and educated in the old ways of honor.

I won't admit to being an elitist at Dnd because frankly I'm not, but if it'll feed this complex of yours then sure why not.

[WindStruck]

Wow, I knew stalking your guys' game would still be fun.

I think you guys might wanna wait for everyone else or a DM response though. Cause this seems heavy. :smalleek:

[Ralasha]

I have a complex? :smallconfused: I thought I was playing my character.

Her AC at the moment is only 23, rather than 25.

[Crazyfailure13]

Flanking is a +2 bonus to hit correct?

[WindStruck]

Wow, OK guys, really?

First, your whole duel is a mess. It seems like you keep fudging rules.

And second? There's what, at least 10 other players beside you that could step in and have a say, on top of who knows how many villagers the DM controls, and you have taken several rounds of action without their involvement.

[Ralasha]

Yes, and your samurai friend is nearly dead or at least half-way by now.

Right, calling a halt for DM rulings thus far.

[Crazyfailure13]

Just to point out that was a fight either one of you could have stopped for any reason, and instead chose needless conflict for no reason, If that becomes a habit (disagreeing=killing) you'll make this a short game.

[Rendel Nep]

Maybe we should cut it down to one post of actions per person per day? It will slow things down a bit but then people aren't going to be suddenly left out. It works well for the Wold games.

[Ralasha]

Oh look at all the AOO:smallcool:


You must be daft, I attacked the same turn I stepped back meaning my move couldn't have been a standard action: my attack was.

Therefor your first AOO doesnt exist as I could only move 5 ft which doesn't provoke an AOO. My horse spends its turn stepping inbetween us in that 5 ft gap.

Your next attacks hit my horse. As my turn is spent mounting the horse and you get an AOO

*disregarding the AOO in your last post since one gets cancelled anyway* Your normal attacks hit.

My horse then takes his turn moving 35ft (full round action) as I take my turn shooting you in the face.

Attack: [roll0]
Confirm: [roll1]
DMG: [roll2]

Now if you'd like I don't mind kiting you until you retreat or otherwise die or we can forget this ever happened? The choice is yours.

Edit: Your dwarf mocked the horse in a challenge meaning she wouldn't mount a horse back unless you're going against your honor?

Meh, I don't mind letting it go, Either that or I get my horse and charge you until you're dead while you shoot me in the face.

If I do let it go though, you're going to have to be more diplomatic IC. Or it'll just happen again.

Since you've already done so, openly, it means she can't lose any honor against you, since you have none.

Also, I think all of this belongs in OOC.

[Crazyfailure13]

That is a good idea Rendel it would also be easier to intervene against bad actions.

[razorback]

Wow... I go to class for a few hours expecting us to be on our way to a ghost or something and we have this instead.
Brass Dragon, how do you feel about PvP bluff/diplo/intimidate? Lerrin hates foolishness as he sees it.

[-Jynx-]

A samurai's mount is apart of him (given the feat) so its no more different than the sword on his hip. Calling your steed to battle isn't dishonorable. However because you claimed your dwarf deems it so, the only one going against code would be you. Again though we can drop this and just delete those posts thus far. My character's comment of "Unless you care to make it a sandwich and talk to it about its feelings as well?" while meant as snide wasn't a challenge.

[Ralasha]

We'll see how your character feels later. I have decided how to deal with it ICly.

[-Jynx-]

I've already deleted my posts (and accidentally one on page 1 as convo between Aerus and I)

[Ralasha]

I have as well.

[Crazyfailure13]

I have deleted my relevent post as well

[Brass Dragon]

Wow... I go to class for a few hours expecting us to be on our way to a ghost or something and we have this instead.
Brass Dragon, how do you feel about PvP bluff/diplo/intimidate? Lerrin hates foolishness as he sees it.

as far a pvp goes, if you're going to do it, make it a planned effort that you tell me about before hand, make sure you have allies, and set yourself up as a villian afterwords, like i said, i dont want any "i slit their throats in the night" which is exactly the kind of sutuation this turned into




Also, to prevent this in the future, but to keep things faster than one by day. 3 posts per day. with a minumum of 1 hour between posts

[Ralasha]

I don't see how this was a 'I slit their throats in the night' situation.

But, as you wish. 3 posts a day. That is all I shall do. as this is more than 4 posts so far, I guess I'm done for today.

That is of course, including this post.

[Brass Dragon]

I don't see how this was a 'I slit their throats in the night' situation.

But, as you wish. 3 posts a day. That is all I shall do. as this is more than 4 posts so far, I guess I'm done for today.

That is of course, including this post.

"i slit their throats" is the phrase ive heard most as an impulsive pvp decision, character driven or no. i use it to reference impulsive acts of pvp

[-Jynx-]

I have as well.

While I think your personality both IC and OOC dont mesh well with mine, how does a truce sound? My Samurai will be more 'formal' around your dwarfling. That being said, if there is a next time between us down the road a refresher course in combat may suite you.

[MHerbert]

Deleted my duel related posts.

[Ralasha]

You don't have to change your character's behavior. But if your character acts like it did before, it will be treated like a minor annoyance, and otherwise ignored by my halfling. Except when the halfling is pointing out the Samurai's flaws, or just generally insulting it.

[Crazyfailure13]

Agreed to 3/day spell like ability, it'll make us stronger :smallbiggrin:

[razorback]

as far a pvp goes, if you're going to do it, make it a planned effort that you tell me about before hand, make sure you have allies, and set yourself up as a villian afterwords, like i said, i dont want any "i slit their throats in the night" which is exactly the kind of sutuation this turned into




Also, to prevent this in the future, but to keep things faster than one by day. 3 posts per day. with a minumum of 1 hour between posts

My intent wasn't to PvP, per se, but to do the zen monk thing and shame/ridicule them into seeing sense as he thinks. Definitely no throat slitting .

[Ralasha]

I also wasn't actually going to kill the samurai... just strip it and melt down it's things in my portable forge.

[-Jynx-]

You don't have to change your character's behavior. But if your character acts like it did before, it will be treated like a minor annoyance, and otherwise ignored by my halfling. Except when the halfling is pointing out the Samurai's flaws, or just generally insulting it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF4CWCXirZ8

That sounds wonderful. Agree to be frienemies?

Also Ral are posts 94 and 95 meant to still be IC?

[Ralasha]

Frenemies. No idea, quote them.

[-Jynx-]

Frenemies. No idea, quote them.

The Giantling shakes her head, and pulls out a sword that looks too large for her, which glows with an obviously reddish light, and throws off heat like a common room fire. She then hold the sword, point up with no effort and calls back, "You'll have to manage to kill me first sweety!"

and

The Giantling's grip tighens visibly, and the point of her sword lowers itself to point directly at the Samurai's face. "I do not take insults easily weakling. Was that a challenge? If so, on yoiur head be it. If not, then come back when you have grown your manhood."

[Ralasha]

First one: yes, second one, I shall delete. is deleted.

[oyzar]

Wow deleting posts... No matter how bad the situation have become, it is nothing that can't be dealt with IC. Takebacks are silly and destroys the imersion. Such rash actions, first fighting and then deleting content.

I assume it is max 3 posts per day. Seems I am doomed to not be able to respond to most IC posts as you guys keep posting at a blazing pace whenever I sleep.

[Brass Dragon]

Wow deleting posts... No matter how bad the situation have become, it is nothing that can't be dealt with IC. Takebacks are silly and destroys the imersion. Such rash actions, first fighting and then deleting content.

I assume it is max 3 posts per day. Seems I am doomed to not be able to respond to most IC posts as you guys keep posting at a blazing pace whenever I sleep.

something you could try is preemptive posting such as

if this happens i will do this.

at least that will let you do more.


also, i didnt suggest deleting posts, as that fight happened, just nobody remembers it.

[Crazyfailure13]

Do they still have injuries if it happened?

[Sinpoder]

I am going to withdrawal interest as school is more important to me then this game.

[ShadowFireLance]

Can someone give me a Tl;DR? I can post tomorrow, And Have NO idea what's going on.

[Rendel Nep]

Halfing DID NOT call Samurai dude stupid, Samurai dude DID NOT call halfling a kid, then it DIDN'T escalate quickly from there.

AND NOW A GHOST IS THREATENING TO DOOM THE VILLAGE

[Crazyfailure13]

And then their was a mind wipe.

[WindStruck]

Wow deleting posts... No matter how bad the situation have become, it is nothing that can't be dealt with IC. Takebacks are silly and destroys the imersion. Such rash actions, first fighting and then deleting content.

I assume it is max 3 posts per day. Seems I am doomed to not be able to respond to most IC posts as you guys keep posting at a blazing pace whenever I sleep.

Technically there was an IC way to do this. Only the most aggressive/crazy character believed to be instigating things the most would have had a small memory wipe and wondered what the heck he or she was doing all angry in the street and banged up a little.

But poor DM botched it up a bit and then decided everyone forgot and/or it never happened in the first place. still not clear which is it. :smallconfused:

But needless to say, you've all moved passed that situation. :smallwink:

[Ralasha]

Meh, for me it was just a bit of fun. I'd have gotten my rear kicked in though because of that bow.

[oyzar]

Can someone give me a Tl;DR? I can post tomorrow, And Have NO idea what's going on.

We don't play the game to tldr, but if you want: Everyone RPed then someone shouted about a murderous ghost and we might go to investigate.

I'll post when I get home in a couple hours the latest, sorry about not posting this morning.

@"You have a cleric": That depends if he is still playing. A lot of people fell off already.

[D4saken1]

Hey all. I am going to have to drop out. Well to be honest I do not have to but I found out yesterday that I will be losing my job of 5 years and will be unemployed. I honestly don't have the heart right now.

[Brass Dragon]

Do they still have injuries if it happened?

yes, they would keep their injuries, as well as used abilities and items, they just dont know why they would be gone



also, im sorry to hear that forsaken

[-Jynx-]

Meh, for me it was just a bit of fun. I'd have gotten my rear kicked in though because of that bow.

Was really my only option since fighting you in melee would just result in my loss. Kiting is the only effective tactic against such a melee heavy person. Kudos to that.

[D4saken1]

Yeah.. I might be able to go to college finally I guess but the whole old fashion man in me drives me nuts if I am not the constant provider. At least my fiance is working now.

[oyzar]

@Brass Dragon: What is the result of my stealth check? It is not terribly important right now as I don't think there are any enemies about, but it is nice to get a reply. In my experience DMs not responding to rolls(even if it is just to say it does nothing) leads to confusion or maybe even resentment. This can cause stalling due to people waiting for a reply or people losing interest in the game. I have seen two games die off already at least partially due to this. This is not ment negative, I just don't want that to happen.

Forsaken: Sorry to hear that.

[Brass Dragon]

@Brass Dragon: What is the result of my stealth check? It is not terribly important right now as I don't think there are any enemies about, but it is nice to get a reply. In my experience DMs not responding to rolls(even if it is just to say it does nothing) leads to confusion or maybe even resentment. This can cause stalling due to people waiting for a reply or people losing interest in the game. I have seen two games die off already at least partially due to this. This is not ment negative, I just don't want that to happen.

Forsaken: Sorry to hear that.

honestly, i couldnt tell what you were rolling for, if t was hiding from the players that's their problem, and if its against npcs, i would appreciate you saying so. i generally ignore rolls that seem vague and untargeted

[Ralasha]

Tensu steps forward resting a hand on the hilt of his sword "Perhaps we should split into a strike team and a sweep team" Tensu said shifting his eyes "Strike team will mount an assault now to stall or destroy said ghost while the sweep team uses their bough time to make their preparations to assist the strike team should it fail or otherwise be unable to halt the ghost." As much as I'd like to just kill it, we at least need to buy time before it gets to the streets... Tensu thought for a moment staring into the distance.

So, a character makes a knowledge check, and you instantly change the way your character is behaving. Metagaming, sorry, gotta call that.

[-Jynx-]

So, a character makes a knowledge check, and you instantly change the way your character is behaving. Metagaming, sorry, gotta call that.

AS characters already announce being on two different sides of how to handle it (ie Lets fight it now, or lets prepare to get a cleric get a glass of holy water and maybe a sandwich) you would presume his 'military'-esque training (as all samurai would go through) would advise splitting into two teams for the sake of not wanting to 1. travel with those not following his plan of attack and 2. to handle the problem as quickly as possible.

An acknowledgement that MAYBE a cleric/other means would be necessary as it was said would run through his mind, but he would still rather continue with his initial plan of just going in and killing it.

But hey you must be the DM so I'll be sure to explain my every action to the girl who doesnt even know how combat works.

Edit: Tensu is still going for the strike force. He wants to kill it, the plan of "lets make two teams" just divides the group up so we're not all A sitting on our thumbs while others prepare and 2 we or rather some of us can take immediate action. Since I'm continuing with my "lets kill it now" I'm not changing anything.

[Brass Dragon]

AS characters already announce being on two different sides of how to handle it (ie Lets fight it now, or lets prepare to get a cleric get a glass of holy water and maybe a sandwich) you would presume his 'military'-esque training (as all samurai would go through) would advise splitting into two teams for the sake of not wanting to 1. travel with those not following his plan of attack and 2. to handle the problem as quickly as possible.

An acknowledgement that MAYBE a cleric/other means would be necessary as it was said would run through his mind, but he would still rather continue with his initial plan of just going in and killing it.

But hey you must be the DM so I'll be sure to explain my every action to the girl who doesnt even know how combat works.

Edit: Tensu is still going for the strike force. He wants to kill it, the plan of "lets make two teams" just divides the group up so we're not all A sitting on our thumbs while others prepare and 2 we or rather some of us can take immediate action. Since I'm continuing with my "lets kill it now" I'm not changing anything.

sounds fine to me, and while im against serious metagaming, this isnt even a blip on my radar, seem perfectly normal for a 5th level adventurer to know how to do that

[oyzar]

I like how both characters who wants to rush at the enemy head first are actually unable to damage it. Hopefully they will listen to someone a bit less rash and we'll either get to know what kind of creature it is from the priests or from the guy doing a knowledge check. In an alternate reality these characters might actually have been rash enough to attack each others before we even got to any enemies:smallwink:.

Btw Brass Dragon it would be nice if you indicated in your response to the knowledge check how much knowledge you are entailed do (do you know all the abilities about that kind of creature, just the name or somewhere in between?).

[Ralasha]

I like how both characters who wants to rush at the enemy head first are actually unable to damage it. Actually, melee weapons CAN hurt ethereal undead. You just suffer a miss chance.
Hopefully they will listen to someone a bit less rash and we'll either get to know what kind of creature it is from the priests or from the guy doing a knowledge check. In an alternate reality these characters might actually have been rash enough to attack each others before we even got to any enemies:smallwink:. Indeed. Though I should like to point out a drow would do the same, just under cover of night, with a knife, or poison.

[oyzar]

Actually, melee weapons CAN hurt ethereal undead. You just suffer a miss chance.

Non magic weapons can't hurt Incorporeal creatures at least.

Ethereal creatures can not be hurt by things on the material plane at all (though neither can they hurt things there).


Indeed. Though I should like to point out a drow would do the same, just under cover of night, with a knife, or poison.

There is only one drow pc in the game. She would not slith someones throath for no reason during the night nor posion people. Race and aligment is not determining all the actions of a character nor it's temperament. I did write a fair bit about it in the ooc thread and my background already, but basically she is not out to get anyone nor to kill someone for fun. If she does find a reason to get away with someone there are better ways to do it than slithing their throath. She has to deal with the potential sound, but that can usually be managed.

[MHerbert]

Actually, in Pathfinder mundane attacks simply cannot hurt incorporeal creatures.
You need a magic weapon/spell/spell-like ability/supernatural ability to hurt them.

Of course, Lorenz doesn't know any of this, he's just thinking that Holy Water might be better than his bombs, as it's you know, holy, and less explosive.
As to not irritate other spirits.

[Ralasha]

There is only one drow pc in the game. She would not slith someones throath for no reason during the night nor posion people. Race and aligment is not determining all the actions of a character nor it's temperament. I did write a fair bit about it in the ooc thread and my background already, but basically she is not out to get anyone nor to kill someone for fun. If she does find a reason to get away with someone there are better ways to do it than slithing their throath. She has to deal with the potential sound, but that can usually be managed.such as giving them a heart-attack from strenuous exercise?

Magical Materials still count as magical, don't they?

[oyzar]

Are we allowed to take 10 on untrained knowledgechecks to know basic stuff(such as that undead might be vunurable to holy water, though not the specifics of how all their various abilities and defenses work)?

[oyzar]

such as giving them a heart-attack from strenuous exercise?

Magical Materials still count as magical, don't they?

Neither Fire-forged steel nor Frost-forged steel are magical materials nor count as magical.

[Ralasha]

I wasn't saying they are, or do. I was asking.

[Brass Dragon]

I like how both characters who wants to rush at the enemy head first are actually unable to damage it. Hopefully they will listen to someone a bit less rash and we'll either get to know what kind of creature it is from the priests or from the guy doing a knowledge check. In an alternate reality these characters might actually have been rash enough to attack each others before we even got to any enemies:smallwink:.

Btw Brass Dragon it would be nice if you indicated in your response to the knowledge check how much knowledge you are entailed do (do you know all the abilities about that kind of creature, just the name or somewhere in between?).

well that check upon seeing it would have yielded plenty, but all he had was a drescription, he'll get a new one once he sees it.

[Brass Dragon]

such as giving them a heart-attack from strenuous exercise?

Magical Materials still count as magical, don't they?

unless its +1, you're out of luck

if it is, its still 50% miss

[Brass Dragon]

Are we allowed to take 10 on untrained knowledgechecks to know basic stuff(such as that undead might be vunurable to holy water, though not the specifics of how all their various abilities and defenses work)?

feel free, anything that's common sense, you can take 10 on. anything to learn something i deem valuble will need a roll

[Rendel Nep]

Ovdals and maybe Lerrin's fists can hurt it apparently. So it can be roundhouse kicked in the nethers.