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CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-12, 10:38 AM
The Starveling Cat! The Starveling Cat!
A single forum thread can't contain that!

Welcome to Fallen London (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/), where the Rubbery Men scurry amidst the civilized folk, and the devils linger expectantly, where death doesn't quite take, and where whispered secrets are as much of a commodity as the primordial shrieks of a forgotten time. London was dragged to the Neath (proximal to Hell, if you must know) not too long ago, and now you must figure out how to make a living.

Not to worry; between the parties, grand thievery, and recreational stabbing, there's sure to be something that appeals to you.

(thread is for discussion of the browser-based game Fallen London (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/), since it was filling up the "Best browser games (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=323304)" thread.)

Playgrounders in the Neath
Angsty Anubite: Samuel Stroh (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Samuel~Stroh)
Artemis97: Artemis97 (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Artemis97)
CarpeGuitarrem: The Player of Games (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/playersideblog)
D20ragon: Devereaux Wyrd (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Devereaux~Wyrd)
Demon 997: Acliabides (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Acliabides)
Divayth Fyr: Szadovar (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Szadovar)
Eldan: Doctor Eldan Blake (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Doctor~Eldan~Blake)
Ellye: Mellye (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/mellye)
Eulalios: Eulalios Skilic (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Eulalios~Skilic)
firedaemon33: Firedaemon (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Firedaemon)
Freeney: Ser Freeney (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Ser~Freeney)
TheGeckoKing: The Stranger Man (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/The~Stranger~Man)
Grif: Grifen (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Grifen)
hookbill:hookbill (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/hookbill)
Hydranova: Hydranova (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Hydranova)
Iruka: GluestickGenius (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/GluestickGenius)
Jade Dragon: Hiro (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/HiroProtagonest)
Luzahn: Martin Axton (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Martin~Axton)
Maethirion: Maethirion (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Maethirion)
Pseudo_Nym: Professor Nym (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Professor~Nym)
Random_person: RandomEntity (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/RandomEntity)
rweird: rweird (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/rweird)
TectonicRobot: TectonicRobot (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TectonicRobot)
Varen_Tai: Toomey (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Toomey)
_volcan_: Hemlock Smith (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Hemlock%20Smith)
WinWin: Bloody Lizzie (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Bloody~Lizzie)
Wookieetank: Chubbins (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Chubbins)


Playing Chess:

Having Dinner:

Shadowy Lurking:

Sparring Bouts:
Martin Axton (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Martin~Axton)



Watchful:
Eldan: Doctor Eldan Blake (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Doctor~Eldan~Blake)
Pseudo_Nym: Professor Nym (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Professor~Nym)

Persuasive:

Shadowy:
CarpeGuitarrem: The Player of Games (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/playersideblog)
rweird: rweird (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/rweird)

Dangerous:
Luzahn: Martin Axton (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Martin~Axton)

Eldan
2014-02-12, 10:54 AM
As has been mentioned, I'm accepting patronages. Don't have the stat of 200 yet to make the most use of it, but I'll still take in aspiring scholars and spend actions on most social stuff, since I'm out of other stuff to do. Just no botany, please.

Varen_Tai
2014-02-12, 10:56 AM
As has been mentioned, I'm accepting patronages. Don't have the stat of 200 yet to make the most use of it, but I'll still take in aspiring scholars and spend actions on most social stuff, since I'm out of other stuff to do. Just no botany, please.

Send me an offer for a Watchful patronage. :smallsmile: I'd love to get any help there!

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-12, 10:58 AM
That's another good idea: listing social actions we're looking for currently. (And yeah, the persistent plant is so very seldom worth it, unless you set up a scheme to take advantage of it. I've wound up just discarding the original card now.)

Varen_Tai, I'm ready to give the first Shadowy lesson, but it seems you don't have the Free Evenings necessary for it. That'll change shortly enough when Time the Healer comes around.

Eldan, you have to be at 200 in the stat and spend 5 points of Notability to gain the Person of Some Importance upgrade (I think it'd be An Extraordinary Mind for you) before you can sponsor Protégés. (That being said, I'm not remiss to helping people raise Making Waves via Private Suppers, if I can spare some. Notability is so very useful.)

Wookieetank
2014-02-12, 11:11 AM
I've added everyone listed so far. Been working on my watchfulness myself, learning and using secrets seemed like an interesting way to go. With the exception of bitey office furniture, and the unrelenting nightmares caused by things best left unknown, its been a rather peaceable way to go.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-12, 11:29 AM
By the by, Eldan, I presume you've already seen all there is to see at zee? Polythreme included? (If not, have a check over there after the Feast. It's an interesting place. Or the Iron Republic, too--that's good for an interesting jaunt or two.) Also in good news, the Final Act is coming to Fallen London, which I'm guessing means more high-level stat content and an endgame... :smalleek:

Eldan
2014-02-12, 12:05 PM
By the by, Eldan, I presume you've already seen all there is to see at zee? Polythreme included? (If not, have a check over there after the Feast. It's an interesting place. Or the Iron Republic, too--that's good for an interesting jaunt or two.) Also in good news, the Final Act is coming to Fallen London, which I'm guessing means more high-level stat content and an endgame... :smalleek:

I have. Polythreme, the Islands, the Republic... would be nice if they opened some of the other locations, like the Elder Continent.

And I'm excited for the endgame. The glimpse I got during Halloween was very, very exciting.

SPAAAAAAAACE!

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-12, 12:19 PM
The fabled Liberation of Night, I presume? I never did hear exactly what it was...

My own, as I recall, was rather cryptic...
Link 1 (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/playersideblog?fromEchoId=2746844)
Link 2 (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/playersideblog?fromEchoId=2746854)

I believe it was tied up with my Nemesis Ambition.

(Speaking of zee-zailing, were you aware of Sunless Sea (http://sunlessseagame.com/)?)

Eldan
2014-02-12, 12:22 PM
The fabled Liberation of Night, I presume? I never did hear exactly what it was...

My own, as I recall, was rather cryptic...
Link 1 (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/playersideblog?fromEchoId=2746844)
Link 2 (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/playersideblog?fromEchoId=2746854)

I believe it was tied up with my Nemesis Ambition.

(Speaking of zee-zailing, were you aware of Sunless Sea (http://sunlessseagame.com/)?)

Maybe? Probably? The masters took me along on their Journey to the sun.

I've read some others on the Wiki that sounded quite impressive., too. There was one where London was abandoned by the Bazaar and the player characters has to save a small group of survivors from the... Things that come after.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-12, 12:24 PM
Maybe? Probably? The masters took me along on their Journey to the sun.
Oooooooooooooooh.


I've read some others on the Wiki that sounded quite impressive., too. There was one where London was abandoned by the Bazaar and the player characters has to save a small group of survivors from the... Things that come after.
Wow. I get the feeling that the endgame is going to be filled with some very difficult decisions.

Eldan
2014-02-12, 12:25 PM
You know, I hate the idea of having access to only one of these.

I could choose a branch, actually. There was an option to abandon the Masters and the Bazaar and instead fly off on my new spacebat wings to explore the universe. But that cost fate, quite a lot of it.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-12, 12:34 PM
Heh, there's a reason that some players make alts for the game. (It's a practice that hasn't actually been discouraged by the developers. People are very open about it. They've worked at the game to ensure that there aren't cheesy alt-to-alt things you can do, generally-speaking.)

EDIT: Also, my ambition is now to raise enough interest in this thread that we can make it to Fallen London VII: (this thread title has been emptied) or some such thing. (And I'm not even an active Seeker! I just know the reputation...)

Eldan
2014-02-12, 12:50 PM
Names are easy.

Fallen London I: Young when Babylon Fell
Fallen London II: Writing down your name with its left hand
Fallen London III: It once had five wells
Fallen London IV: The Silver Fountain
Fallen London V: Not Stolen
Fallen London VI: Perhaps there won't even be one

Iruka
2014-02-12, 01:26 PM
I'm mostly interested in playing some chess and keeping you awake all night with tales about my horrid nightmares.

I've also a cat to pass around and can invite someone to investigate the Affluent Photographer with me.

Listening to the tales of some drunks gives me Nightmares? Come oooon ... :smallsigh:

Eldan
2014-02-12, 01:58 PM
Nightmares are weird like that, yeah.

I've never had a cat sent to me. Or a Starveling Cat. I'll take it.

Varen_Tai
2014-02-12, 02:10 PM
Varen_Tai, I'm ready to give the first Shadowy lesson, but it seems you don't have the Free Evenings necessary for it. That'll change shortly enough when Time the Healer comes around.

Huh. I thought I had at least 1 or 2 kicking around - how many do I need?

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-12, 02:53 PM
Listening to the tales of some drunks gives me Nightmares? Come oooon ... :smallsigh:
Drunks in Fallen London. :smallwink: You eventually become accustomed to the mind-warping tales they spin whilst their inhibitions are lowered, but...

I've never had a cat sent to me. Or a Starveling Cat. I'll take it.
Very good to keep in mind. :smallbiggrin: I'm a bit attached to my own Starveling Cat, but if I should come across any cats in boxes, I'll start sending them around.

Huh. I thought I had at least 1 or 2 kicking around - how many do I need?
Oh, hm. It says it needs just one. You don't happen to have Shadowy in excess of 100, do you? It says you're ineligible because you "need qualities". (Also check to make sure that you haven't somehow failed to receive the quality "A Protégé of..." on your character. If you didn't receive that, it's worth a bug report.)

Varen_Tai
2014-02-12, 03:50 PM
Oh, hm. It says it needs just one. You don't happen to have Shadowy in excess of 100, do you? It says you're ineligible because you "need qualities". (Also check to make sure that you haven't somehow failed to receive the quality "A Protégé of..." on your character. If you didn't receive that, it's worth a bug report.)

I do have the "Protege of" Quality, my Shadowy before equipment bonuses (bonii?) is 89, after is 124. I also have 3 free evenings.

Any other thoughts? :smallwink:

Hydranova
2014-02-12, 03:56 PM
Woo, I was expecting this!

I am also on Fallen London fellow Gentlesquids, and I am Hydranova.


So, has anyone found a use for the silver coins?

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-12, 04:03 PM
I do have the "Protege of" Quality, my Shadowy before equipment bonuses (bonii?) is 89, after is 124. I also have 3 free evenings.

Any other thoughts? :smallwink:
That's so very strange. I think I shall file a bug report, for I cannot find my Protégé!

These are a people?

I am also on Fallen London fellow Gentlesquids, and I am Hydranova.


So, has anyone found a use for the silver coins?
Wonderful! I've added you! (I know there's other Playgrounders, though maybe they don't post around here very much any more.)

As for the First City Coins, I believe that the Heart's Desire ambition requires them at some point.

Hydranova
2014-02-12, 04:14 PM
Well, I have 28 of them, so does anyone need 30 of them I can send them to when I get that many? I'm on the Nemesis Ambition myself, and busy grinding Persuasive and Shadowy so I can become important so I can buy a boat but nevermind that!

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-12, 04:15 PM
Varen_Tai: Bug report submitted; I'm also going to try grinding my Shadowy back up to 200 to see if that matters. (I took a trip to the Nadir, and so my Shadowy took a little hit.)

Hydranova
2014-02-12, 04:18 PM
Speaking of grinding; any tips on raising shadowy and persuasive to 100? Those aren't as important as, say, Watchful or Dangerous to Nemesis (from what I've heard), and Scandal's kind of a pain to deal with.

Maethirion
2014-02-12, 04:22 PM
Ah! The Best Browser Games thread got me into this a few weeks ago, and I have to say I'm loving it.

I'm also Maethirion on that, and would love to hear from some people.

Varen_Tai
2014-02-12, 04:24 PM
Speaking of grinding; any tips on raising shadowy and persuasive to 100? Those aren't as important as, say, Watchful or Dangerous to Nemesis (from what I've heard), and Scandal's kind of a pain to deal with.

Actually, Scandal is one of the easiest to deal with if you have friends - social actions can reduce it for just an action. Nightmares are more of a pain since Laudanum gives Wounds as well as reducing Nightmares, and the social action requires a Sudden Insight. Wounds have to be reduced slowly through the drink of vigor (or whatever it is called) or spending 3 actions in your lodgings. I think suspicion also works like Scandal.

To answer your question, I ended up with Persuasive being my highest since I aspired to be an Author. :smallbiggrin: I got there by grinding short stories and then teaching a Louche devil in Mahogany Hall.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-12, 04:31 PM
Maethirion added!


Speaking of grinding; any tips on raising shadowy and persuasive to 100? Those aren't as important as, say, Watchful or Dangerous to Nemesis (from what I've heard), and Scandal's kind of a pain to deal with.
So, I'm spoken for with regards to patronage, but someone who's capped a stat at 200 (and spent 5 points of Notability) can become a Very Significant Person of sorts, and tutor you up to 100 in that stat. You can only sponsor one person, though, as I recall.

Also, Scandal should not worry you overmuch. The Tomb-Colonies aren't that bad of a menace place, and you can even advance the Labyrinth of Tigers storyline with a visit there.

Finally, if you have a lot of Confident Smiles/Hastily-Scrawled Warning Notes, you can trade them in, 5 at a time, for stat boosts to their corresponding stat.

Hydranova
2014-02-12, 04:32 PM
Well, this is mostly from the perspective of someone who didn't have any contacts prior. But way I see it, you can cheaply reduce Nightmares by drinking, and then sleeping to work off the wounds AND nightmares. Suspicion at least can give you an acquaintance. Nightmares is really painful if you're going for What The Thunder said...or if you don't have really high Touched By Fingerwork, and if you do (~30 for me) you just get sent to Mirror Marches, which is more tedious than anything. But being Exiled to Tomb-Colonies! You have to...dare I say it...DONATE THINGS!


On a side note, how do you guys measure the characterization of your, well, characters?

Hiro Protagonest
2014-02-12, 04:32 PM
Actually, Scandal is one of the easiest to deal with if you have friends - social actions can reduce it for just an action. Nightmares are more of a pain since Laudanum gives Wounds as well as reducing Nightmares, and the social action requires a Sudden Insight. Wounds have to be reduced slowly through the drink of vigor (or whatever it is called) or spending 3 actions in your lodgings. I think suspicion also works like Scandal.

Or you could just, y'know, drink a bottle or two of Laudanum and then wait a couple weeks for both your Nightmares and Wounds to go down. :smalltongue: And in the meantime don't do things that increase Nightmares.

I am HiroProtagonest (should've checked to see if you could use spaces), since I am obviously the main character in this game. :smalltongue: After all, I will overthrow the sun and gain power over immortality.

I'm currently trying to bag a legend, but first I need to train the mandrake. I'm gonna need a lot more Prisoner's Honey, and the option in Veilgarden that got me the stuff disappeared at some point (I'm not sure if it's because I pursued the "write about your experiences with prisoner's honey" option).

I'm also doing Spite stuff right now to raise my Shadowy. It's at fifteen base, and that's twelve points lower than my next lowest base skill.

Hydranova
2014-02-12, 04:39 PM
And, that's added: all of the listed. Expect Calling Cards reaaaal soon!

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-12, 04:47 PM
Well, this is mostly from the perspective of someone who didn't have any contacts prior. But way I see it, you can cheaply reduce Nightmares by drinking, and then sleeping to work off the wounds AND nightmares. Suspicion at least can give you an acquaintance. Nightmares is really painful if you're going for What The Thunder said...or if you don't have really high Touched By Fingerwork, and if you do (~30 for me) you just get sent to Mirror Marches, which is more tedious than anything. But being Exiled to Tomb-Colonies! You have to...dare I say it...DONATE THINGS!
Oh, I dunno--I actually really like the Mirror Marches; I've gone there voluntarily. The text is super-cool to read through.

(I don't remember the Tomb-Colonies being that bad? Mind you, maybe they've changed since I went there last.)


On a side note, how do you guys measure the characterization of your, well, characters?
Factions for sure, most notably who I'm Closest To. And my Profession. And my Ambition. Those are probably the three pillars that I think of for my character, with my Constant Companion coming in afterwards, but only because she was a figure from my early days in Fallen London whom I still remembered.

EDIT: Funny story, by the by, about my Second Chances--I have 406 Confident Smiles stockpiled from the days when I was scrambling for Notability to become a Correspondent. Back then, Notability decayed at 1 a week, so I was spamming Private Suppers with other Neathers just to get it up quick enough. (Thank goodness that changed now.) I'll never use all of them, and I can't give away Confident Smiles by themselves. Ah well.

Also, in case some of you aren't aware, the Feast of the Exceptional Rose will soon be upon us! It is a time of love and of mystery, of intrigue and passion, of a great rose with a toothily-endowed baby in its midst--I mean, what?

AT ANY RATE, Mrs. Plenty's Carnival will be the host to this most exceptional event, and I would advise you to give it a look. Maybe scrounge up what carnival tickets you may find.

Varen_Tai
2014-02-12, 05:11 PM
EDIT: Funny story, by the by, about my Second Chances--I have 406 Confident Smiles stockpiled from the days when I was scrambling for Notability to become a Correspondent.

I was gunning for that until I looked at the weekly reward for the Correspondent, and it sucks, at least compared to being an Author. I love getting Cellars of Wine and other valuables. I mean, Antique Mysteries are nice, but not used often. Cellars of Wine are quite handy, as are the other Author rewards. The other rewards Correspondent rewards seem very useless.

Unless you have some additional insight that I am lacking? :smallbiggrin:

Eldan
2014-02-12, 05:20 PM
With that many smiles, you should at least get your Persuasive up to 200 quickly.

As for coins: I have the Heart's Desire ambition. It's quite cool, but incredibly frustrating. It requires 77 silver coins at some point, which are an absolute pain to grind. I have about 180 now, though, so any Marvellers can write me.

It is a cool ambition, however. You get to talk to the King with a Hundred Hearts about his backstory and you find out who the Topsy King is and why he's Topsy.

Pseudo_Nym
2014-02-12, 05:24 PM
I just started yesterday, after seeing you all praise the game so much in another thread. Enjoying it immensely.

Professor Nym, a sly and charming gentleman, at your service.

Iruka
2014-02-12, 05:27 PM
Just when I've chosen my Ambition (Bag a Legend), I keep hearing interesting stuff about the others. But that Ambition seemed the best fit for my character. Kinda annoying that there are only Ambitions for certain Quality combinations ...

Hydranova
2014-02-12, 05:33 PM
Eh, you kinda use the other 2 stats as well, but they're more of your minor stats, in that they won't be needed as frequently.

Eldan
2014-02-12, 05:36 PM
Well, I know nothing about the other three Ambitions. They might be just as good.

Also, personally, I hate the Tomb Colonies. They are boring.

The Mirror Marches, on the other hand, were quite nice the first few times. I mean, to a Fallen Londoner, they are like a holiday. You get all the things that are missing in London. The sun, weather, fresh air, green plants, fresh fruit...

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-12, 05:46 PM
My word! I seem to have so many things to say!

I was gunning for that until I looked at the weekly reward for the Correspondent, and it sucks, at least compared to being an Author. I love getting Cellars of Wine and other valuables. I mean, Antique Mysteries are nice, but not used often. Cellars of Wine are quite handy, as are the other Author rewards. The other rewards Correspondent rewards seem very useless.

Unless you have some additional insight that I am lacking? :smallbiggrin:
I'm mostly in it for the story. Plus, I suspect that the Correspondent awards will be beneficial later on, when additional content is implemented. (That said, I do very much miss getting the Cellars of Wine in particular. Fast-track to Fourth City Airag, which you can use to get Tears of the Bazaar and eventually Master's Blood. If you wish.)

With that many smiles, you should at least get your Persuasive up to 200 quickly.
Truth! Though that's not a priority at the moment. Maybe once the caps are lifted, though...

It is a cool ambition, however. You get to talk to the King with a Hundred Hearts about his backstory and you find out who the Topsy King is and why he's Topsy.
*drools* Ahem. Sorry. That sounds fascinating! All I got was Scathewick. And apparently a conspiracy stretching far and wide in the Neath.......

I just started yesterday, after seeing you all praise the game so much in another thread. Enjoying it immensely.

Professor Nym, a sly and charming gentleman, at your service.
Adding you to the list!

Just when I've chosen my Ambition (Bag a Legend), I keep hearing interesting stuff about the others. But that Ambition seemed the best fit for my character. Kinda annoying that there are only Ambitions for certain Quality combinations ...
To be honest, if you're anything like me, you wind up advancing all of the stats anyways. Eventually. Because stats are really just markers for content; if you want to check out all the content, you advance all the stats.

Also, I hear that the Bag a Legend storylets are superb and often hilarious.

Eldan: If you're looking for something else to do--finding ways to increase Making Waves and accrue Notability will enable you to eventually upgrade your lodgings, although it's a bit more expensive at this time than previously.

Hiro Protagonest
2014-02-12, 05:53 PM
Ugh, great, I didn't realize that to change my lodgings I had to use the key in my inventory, I thought it was an automatic change. Now I wasted 450 Whispered Secrets on a second lodging thinking that I got a bug when I bought the first one.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-12, 06:09 PM
So do you have two lodgings, or just one? I--oh, right. They switched how you buy the basic lodgings. You used to have to get them via a storylet card. Said storylet card wouldn't allow you to purchase an additional lodging if you already had it.

(Also...heh. 450 Whispered Secrets. Wait until you see the lodging that requires 40,000.)

Iruka
2014-02-12, 06:11 PM
To be honest, if you're anything like me, you wind up advancing all of the stats anyways. Eventually. Because stats are really just markers for content; if you want to check out all the content, you advance all the stats.

Also, I hear that the Bag a Legend storylets are superb and often hilarious.

Oh indeed. I just delivered 90 rat corpses to a Scarred Naturalist. He licked his lips in a strictly academic way and served me the worst coffee I ever tasted.

Hiro Protagonest
2014-02-12, 06:23 PM
Well I was upgrading from my basic lodgings. Both of the new ones are the same effect, three cards can be in your hand.

Pseudo_Nym
2014-02-12, 06:26 PM
At least if you ever get evicted, you can move right back in.

Not sure if it's possible to get evicted, but it's the principle of the thing.

Hydranova
2014-02-12, 08:46 PM
Way I see it, Nemesis is more of you being Liam Neeson from Taken (the original, not the second). Not the most light-hearted of Ambitions, but it's pretty formidable in your determination.

Way I measure characterization is quirks, Connections, Profession, and how you decide to measure up your attributes. This mostly came to me as I was grinding Dangerous by Dueling the Black Ribbon (speaking of, who else wants Feducci as a companion? He's the head of the only NPCs* in Fallen London with NAMES instead of descriptions. Dude would be an awesome party member, don't deny it.) Seeing as this came after running into a stumbling block related to Dangerous, I like to see it as my guy going slightly overboard in violence (Dangerous becoming best stat) then, after taking a career at the University, calming down and returning to his true insightful nature (Watchful returning to top stat, minus gear).


Speaking of Feducci, who wants to bet he's a Hesperidean?


*Excluding the Masters (Not human...possibly), Any of the Ambition people (confined to Ambitions), Jack Smiles (who is...odd), and anyone else I've forgotten.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-12, 09:34 PM
Well I was upgrading from my basic lodgings. Both of the new ones are the same effect, three cards can be in your hand.
Well, if they're distinct Lodgings, you get different Opportunity cards for each one. So there's that.

I've actually acquired a veritable slew of real estate. I think I have 2/3rds of the Lodgings in the game. (I'm not too keen on abetting Hell's goals, not to the extent of giving them 40,000 souls, so I don't have the Western Tower lodging nor the Brass Sanctum. And I wasn't able to acquire all of the new 3-card lodgings which became available over Christmas.)

Hiro Protagonest
2014-02-12, 09:57 PM
I got two different ones, the Rooftop Shack and the one above the library.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-12, 11:08 PM
Okay, excellent. While this means you have one more lodging than you need, it also means that you have two cards with unique text and actions. (Both of them, though, should have an action which gives you certifiable scraps. You can actually save those up and buy things when you start getting cards from the Relickers.)

Eldan
2014-02-13, 02:43 AM
*Excluding the Masters (Not human...possibly), Any of the Ambition people (confined to Ambitions), Jack Smiles (who is...odd), and anyone else I've forgotten.

Alice. A few people mentioned in various intrigue and rumour items, usually along the lines of "Lady B_ _ _ _ _ _ _, who did something terrible."

Edit:
Dr. Sigmund Schlomo.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-13, 10:19 AM
Alice is certainly...her own special category, too. Especially with that content snippet.

Wookieetank
2014-02-13, 10:23 AM
Alice is certainly...her own special category, too. Especially with that content snippet.

Are we talking along the lines of SMT's take on Alice?

Hydranova
2014-02-13, 10:31 AM
No, no, Alice is much more...how to put this.

You might want to invest in Cheddar, Parmesan, or Provolone, if you know what I'm saying.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-13, 10:55 AM
Quite so.

I remember that storylet as one of the big choices I got to make in Fallen London. I wonder if it shall be reprised.

Eldan
2014-02-13, 10:58 AM
So, what did you go for? I went for the Big Bang, personally. It felt right and I'd like to think I made a temporary impact, at least, and created a legend in certain circles.

Luzahn
2014-02-13, 10:59 AM
You know, I'm starting to think that my choice of the Nemesis ambition was a bit shortsighted. Sure, I get to be a vengeful crusader, but it's led my character to not tolerating London's...eccentricities lightly.

I mean, I honestly can't see invading hell and trying to overthrow the Masters going well. At least I have my escape zubmarine ready.

Eldan
2014-02-13, 11:01 AM
Hah. That's what you think. The Masters are as good as gone.

Honestly, I have a hard time thinking of any ambition that can beat Heart's Desire's performance of the Correspondence Opera.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-13, 11:07 AM
So, what did you go for? I went for the Big Bang, personally. It felt right and I'd like to think I made a temporary impact, at least, and created a legend in certain circles.
I think that's the one I picked? I don't remember all the stuff I've done, actually. But I'm fairly certain that's it, after rereading it on the wiki.


Honestly, I have a hard time thinking of any ambition that can beat Heart's Desire's performance of the Correspondence Opera.
Wh-whaaaaaaaa?

(Now I'm really regretting going the Nemesis route. But I'm too far invested to try another, even if I wanted to spend Fate.)

Eldan
2014-02-13, 11:15 AM
Want spoilers? I can give you the short version. Only this much: you get the true identities of the Topsy King, the King with a Hundred Hearts, the Manager of the Royal Betlehem and many of the secrets of the first city.

Regarding the basic plot:
Whenever a certain planetary conjunction happens, a card game, called hte Marvellous, can take place. It must have seven special players. Each of them must bet 77 first city coins. The winner gets his Heart's greatest Desire fulfilled. Probably twisted.

The player has to unite the other six players, many of which have played and lost before, and stage the game.

Regarding the Opera and the Topsy King:
One prominent player is the Topsy King, formerly Tristran Bagley, royal composer. He tried to write an opera based on the correspondence, played entirely on instruments of glass. He failed, and so he tried to play the Marvellous. He lost, and it cost him his sanity.

To bring him back into the game, one has to find his notes, finish the opera, recruit an utterly insane orchestra in Veilgarden, convince the court to allow you to play the opera and then perform it. You conduct it.

After the first few beats of the grand kettle drums, your vision clouds with blood and it gets worse from there.

This gives Bagley just enough sanity back that he can agree to play, before losing it again.

Concerning other players and the first city:
The King with a Hundred Hearts and the Manager of the Royal Betlehem are the King of the First City and his lover from a distant land.

The King fell ill and the Manager gambled he city on his health. They won, in a way. The King is now both a statue of himself and the entire land of Polythreme and all the Clay Men. He hates the Manager for what happened and the two will not meet or speak.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-13, 11:22 AM
O.O I'm torn between reading spoilers and making an alt to play through--eh. I'll probably never have the inclination to make an alt and get far enough, unless no new content comes out for a while.

EDIT: OH MY WORD. That's...ah...marvellous.

Hydranova
2014-02-13, 11:33 AM
So, what did you go for? I went for the Big Bang, personally. It felt right and I'd like to think I made a temporary impact, at least, and created a legend in certain circles.

I offed 'em all.

Sadly, the browser didn't load SO I didn't see the last snippet, the one that showed when

Alice died.

Luzahn
2014-02-13, 11:37 AM
Well, to be honest it's not the masters themselves who concern me. It's more who/what pulls the strings...

Hell seems to be a bigger problem though, especially considering the Destiny information my character got.

By the way, does the game go off of Character name or user name for contacts? Luzahn122 is my storynexus username, but I'm not sure if that's sufficient.

Eldan
2014-02-13, 12:29 PM
Mind sharing some of that Destiny information? In a spoiler perhaps? Because I don't think we'll get to see it otherwise.

Ellye
2014-02-13, 12:49 PM
Just started playing, really enjoying the flavor.

http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/mellye

Pseudo_Nym
2014-02-13, 12:59 PM
Just started playing, really enjoying the flavor.

http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/mellye

Another new face in Fallen London! How intriguing! Welcome, delicious friend.


Now I'm really regretting going the Nemesis route.

Are Ambitions the only thing not to get locked into too early? Or are there other lasting mistakes to watch out for?

Luzahn
2014-02-13, 01:04 PM
Mind sharing some of that Destiny information? In a spoiler perhaps? Because I don't think we'll get to see it otherwise.

The Bishop sends you to get an alliance with the Fingerlords to help defeat Hell. ( I forget where they are based, I think East? But mostly behind the mirrors.) The Destiny opens up with you as their slave, responsible for trapping mortals through the mirrors and keeping them for the Fingerlords' amusement. Huge Elf / Fae vibe with them, in the old and horrifying style.

I chose to release the Bishop from their prisons, and they gave him an army of illusions to overthrow hell, and if I remember correctly you rule hell after victory.

Edit: Found my old Journal entries:

"Wednesday in Parabola" "Sandwiches! A prosaic snack to consume in dreams, but that's how the Fingerkings rewarded me today. They watched as I ate. Cucumber, salmon. Creamy butter, smooth as the yawning fall into sleep. Better-tasting than anything in the real world." "They summoned me to confirm me as their Huntsman. In fact, I have always been their Huntsman. History in Parabola is mutable. When I complete my plan, I'll always have been something quite different." "Today is the Feast of Masks. In London, the mirrors are growing soft. The Kings, in their smiling stolen flesh, congratulate me for the prisoners I have brought them. They would like to release one, through the mirrors into London. They asked me to choose." "Well, this is going to be interesting."

"An army marches on its stomach" "This army does, anyway. A billion serpents - basilisks and pythons, adders and dragons - scaled for war, wriggling in absurd multitudes. If they could enter the real world - if they existed - they would take London in a day." "They don't exist. Not in the sense I do, my dear, or you. But Parabola shares a border with Hell. This host wriggles off to war. Even in Hell, they're not real. It'll be like blowing a billion soap bubbles at a castle wall. But you know, that's quite a diversion. While the Bishop mounts his own assault, the devils will be confounded by serpents. Apparently." "I think it's a ridiculous strategy. But this is Parabola. And I rather think a billion soap bubbles must outweigh a few thousand stones." "If the Bishop takes Hell... I will have been the architect of his success. Who knows what he'll become. But I'll be at his right hand."


- It's not the worst fate, but it seems rather ominous to me. I'll be changing it next chance I get. At least I'm not a Master now... :smalltongue:


My link, if anyone wishes to add me as a contact: fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Martin Axton

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-13, 01:14 PM
Are Ambitions the only thing I should be careful not to get locked into to early? I've avoided them, so far, but otherwise I haven't given too much thought to the long term.
You don't really need to worry about locking into one "early" or not; just scope around, ask folk, and figure out what seems interesting. All of them are rewarding in their own way. (Don't decide based on the stats, I would say.)

Actually, based on that, I went back and used the option they have to read back through your Ambition adventures. Very interesting stuff. More than I recalled. Nemesis takes you through a rather trippy sequence with a particular variant of Prisoners' Honey, for instance. I wish I could replay it with what I know now.

Otherwise, it's yeah--basically Taken: Fallen London Edition.

Pseudo_Nym
2014-02-13, 02:11 PM
You don't really need to worry about locking into one "early" or not; just scope around, ask folk, and figure out what seems interesting. All of them are rewarding in their own way.

It deserves consideration, is all I meant. I'm sure I'd enjoy any of them, but it's a decision with more weight than, say, how I advise the Loquacious Vicar. I was asking if there were any other... weighty... decisions. Never mind, though; I'm sure I'll do fine.

Eldan
2014-02-13, 02:20 PM
Not many. I can think of two or three. You can only be Closest to one faction, later. That's one. The Nadir has one that is sort of weighty, but didn't seem to do much, so far. On Halloween, there was Destiny, perhaps that will come back next October.

Luzahn
2014-02-13, 02:20 PM
From what I've found, any decisions of consequence like that are correctable by spending fate points. Which, although you usually have to buy those, occasionally pop up in the game itself. They seem to enjoy rewarding them for filling out surveys.

Destiny looks like it will come around again in October; the status says that it can be changed on Halloween, and with difficulty at other times.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-13, 02:25 PM
Being Closest To a faction is reversible, though. I'm not sure that there's very many irreversible decisions.

Well, strike that--most of the bigger storylines have irreversible conclusions, unless you choose to spend Fate and replay them. (Jack and the Big Rat both come to mind, as well as the Cheesemonger.)

Eldan
2014-02-13, 02:45 PM
By the way, newer players may not be aware of the great Mysteries!

They were a series of questions that were asked in a special game tab and that plaeyrs could answer. A short while ago, they were resolved and correct answers got some fate.

For those who missed that, here's a blog post answering them (http://www.failbettergames.com/?p=1395) and another blog post (http://www.failbettergames.com/?p=1416) with the funniest answers.

Also, click on the comic link to the right there. It's a fun little tale about the Department of Menace Eradication.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-13, 02:48 PM
Speaking of...I'm entertaining ideas of more useful things to put in the intro post. People seeking specific social actions? Helpful FL links?

Iruka
2014-02-13, 05:25 PM
AAAAHHHH, the Comtessa! The COMTESSA! What shall I do? What shall I dooooo??


In other news, I feel bad when I send out requests for social activities without any entertaining messages :smalltongue:

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-13, 05:31 PM
AAAAHHHH, the Comtessa! The COMTESSA! What shall I do? What shall I dooooo??
Oh, yeah, speaking of irreversible choices...wow, that one takes me back a ways. Don't worry. One of the dreams sees fit to remind you of your decision.

In other news, I feel bad when I send out requests for social activities without any entertaining messages :smalltongue:
Heh, don't sweat it. It's just something I do to amuse myself.

Also, somebody sent me a cat-box for Eldan, but I can't re-send it; whenever you get one, it only sends once before it must be opened, as I recall.

(I will definitely be passing catboxes around, though, to anyone who wants a chance at a...well...particular feline.)

Hydranova
2014-02-13, 06:19 PM
*Readies poems*

Anyways, thanks for the advice on literary works! While I wait for my actions to recharge so I can finish out the slog, any suggestions on improving Shadowy, or is that just the Pickpocket option?

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-13, 06:36 PM
*Readies poems*

Anyways, thanks for the advice on literary works! While I wait for my actions to recharge so I can finish out the slog, any suggestions on improving Shadowy, or is that just the Pickpocket option?
Burglaries in the Flit or the Boxful of Intrigue in Spite; I think the Boxful is the more profitable option, but burglaries let you tailor your catch.

Also, if you build up Casing, the Heists are fun to have a spin through.

Eldan
2014-02-14, 02:38 AM
The box is always quite useful, once you unlock candles, it's one of hte most profitable actions in the game.

Iruka
2014-02-14, 03:26 AM
Speaking of...I'm entertaining ideas of more useful things to put in the intro post. People seeking specific social actions? Helpful FL links?

I stumbled upon the Knife-and-Candle FAQ (http://www.failbettergames.com/?page_id=1020) and the Beginner's Guide (http://fallenlondon.wikia.com/wiki/Beginner%27s_Guide). Maybe a link to the FL twitter?

I'm open for pretty much all social actions and always looking for people to reduce Nightmares with.

So, what's up with that Feast of the Exceptional Rose? Is it starting today?

Eldan
2014-02-14, 04:46 AM
Probably. Fallen London has special events for several holidays, that usually last for a while (often a month). There's the Feast of the Exceptional Rose on Valentine's Day, the Feast of Masks on Halloween and the Twelve Days of Mr. Sacks on Christmas.

Iruka
2014-02-14, 05:21 AM
Aaaaand it has begun.
Looks like fun.

Eldan
2014-02-14, 06:49 AM
So, shall we all start sending each other gifts? A bit weird from a roleplaying standpoint and quite expensive, but I've never had any and I'm curious.

Luzahn
2014-02-14, 07:30 AM
Well, I suppose it's time for Captain Axton to dodge the holiday madness by sailing as far away as humanly possible.

It certainly has nothing to do with an inventory full of Eyeless Skull cards. Nope, nothing at all.

Iruka
2014-02-14, 07:52 AM
My, my, a gift from an esteemed gentleman! I'm flattered.
However, it doesn't seem to do anything and I can't afford to send anything back.

Eldan
2014-02-14, 08:24 AM
As it explains in the text somewhere: gifts are special. They don't do anything on their own.

HOwever, there's a card, the Lady in Violet (was it Violet? Some colour like that, anyway). With her, you can exchange gifts you get from other players for a special quality. At the end of the feast, you can buy special items for that quality, mostly special companions.

Also, be happy people. I just spent over 2000 honey on gifts for you all. Lucky for you hat I was grinding for it to buy a room at the Royal Beth.

Eldan
2014-02-14, 09:02 AM
Huh. Did someone just spend a ton of nex on me? Well, thanks.

Also, the Overgoat got new art, I just noticed. Awesome new art.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-14, 09:50 AM
So, shall we all start sending each other gifts? A bit weird from a roleplaying standpoint and quite expensive, but I've never had any and I'm curious.
Well, I certainly plan to send gifts...

...but being the Player of Games, my motives are not to be trusted. :smallbiggrin:

Hydranova
2014-02-14, 09:52 AM
It said to check your inventory for the playing card....buuut I don't see it there. A glitch?

EDIT: No wait there it is.

Pseudo_Nym
2014-02-14, 09:55 AM
If it lasts a month, I'm sure I'll scrounge up enough for a gift or two. Can't afford anything just yet, though.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-14, 10:07 AM
If it lasts a month, I'm sure I'll scrounge up enough for a gift or two. Can't afford anything just yet, though.
Quite all right! I shall endeavor to still send something over. (Hopefully I can manage a round of gifts for everyone on the list. :smallsmile: )

Also, the Nex gifts are deliciously intriguing. Part of me dearly wants to send a Starveling Stole to someone.

Eldan
2014-02-14, 10:15 AM
Quite all right! I shall endeavor to still send something over. (Hopefully I can manage a round of gifts for everyone on the list. :smallsmile: )

Also, the Nex gifts are deliciously intriguing. Part of me dearly wants to send a Starveling Stole to someone.

Yeah. I feel the same. Just reading hte descriptions makes me salivate. I think I wouldn't even want to trade them in, if those are for that purpose, too.

Divayth Fyr
2014-02-14, 11:00 AM
I guess I forgot to post here - in FL I'm Szadovar.

Sorry about the cat business earlier - should have checked that before trusting some unverified information.

Varen_Tai
2014-02-14, 11:08 AM
Sadly, right before the Feast began, I set out on a scientific expedition, so I'm not even in FL right now. :smallmad: Bad timing on my part, though I am almost home...

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-14, 12:15 PM
Yeah. I feel the same. Just reading hte descriptions makes me salivate. I think I wouldn't even want to trade them in, if those are for that purpose, too.
Precisely! It'd seem like an absolute waste.

I guess I forgot to post here - in FL I'm Szadovar.

Sorry about the cat business earlier - should have checked that before trusting some unverified information.
Ah, no worries. But yeah, you're better off sending catboxes directly to recipient.

Pseudo_Nym
2014-02-14, 12:30 PM
I am now "Attending to the Needs of a Singular Plant." Judging by the game's insistance that it's perfectly harmless, it will no doubt soon discover a taste for human flesh.

I never liked my neighbors, anyway.

In other news, what use is a Talkative Rattus Faber? When equipped, all my attributes become negative, everything is "almost impossible" (with a 0% chance of success), and my discription becomes merely "a gentleman." That's nice. I suppose I could feed him to the plant...

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-14, 12:36 PM
I am now "Attending to the Needs of a Singular Plant." Judging by the game's insistance that it's perfectly harmless, it will no doubt soon discover a taste for human flesh.
In the long run, I haven't found the plant to be worth it. (Avoid the luck-based Opportunity cards for it like the plague, I would say. Even odds of decreasing your plant quality.) But you'd probably find the story to be enjoyable the first time through.

In other news, what use is a Talkative Rattus Faber? When equipped, all my attributes become negative, everything is "almost impossible" (with a 0% chance of success), and my discription becomes merely "a gentleman." That's nice. I suppose I could feed him to the plant...
Very sneaky use! :smallbiggrin: Some stories are stat-capped, so you're no longer able to access them when your stats are at a certain level. This is a great way for you to replay them if you liked them; it effectively lets you play back through them for a few more levels.

Also, you get more change points in a stat for attempting more challenging tasks. If you're trying to level a stat, you'll be able to keep tasks difficult this way so that you level it faster.

Hiro Protagonest
2014-02-14, 03:28 PM
Well, mine is a hell-plant, and the game doesn't give you the option to just kill and uproot the damn thing after learning what it is. :smallannoyed:

Luzahn
2014-02-14, 05:39 PM
Hell is a problem, isn't it? Rest assured, there are plans in place.

By the way, is anybody interested in a cat-pass?

Eldan
2014-02-14, 05:47 PM
Hell is a problem, isn't it? Rest assured, there are plans in place.

By the way, is anybody interested in a cat-pass?

Memememe! I still don't have a Starveling cat.

Pseudo_Nym
2014-02-14, 05:49 PM
By the way, is anybody interested in a cat-pass?

I'd be.
Edit: But I think Eldan wants it more.

Divayth Fyr
2014-02-14, 05:53 PM
If another is available I'll gladly take it (though Eldan and Pseudo_Nym have precedence).

Luzahn
2014-02-14, 05:57 PM
Sent it out to Eldan. Hmm, I suddenly have a nagging suspicion that I spelled "apprised" wrong. :smalltongue:

I'll have to get a starveling of my own one day. But I've already got some impressive pets, so it's no worry. My current profession gives me a great dog.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-14, 09:36 PM
By the by, for your amusement: I've been following the day-to-day activities of Doctor Taupe-Wainscot, the Most Boring Man in Fallen London (http://www.frillyshirt.org/2014/01/14/the-most-boring-man-in-fallen-london/). It's quite an amusing read. Here's his profile (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/doctor~Taupe-wainscot), should you wish to send him requests. A number of people are currently sending various Feast of the Extraordinary Rose gifts...that poor fellow.

Hydranova
2014-02-14, 10:59 PM
A certain Someone has a profile. (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Mr%20Eaten) I really, REALLY want to see what happens if someone proposes to him.

Pseudo_Nym
2014-02-14, 11:16 PM
That sounds like a bad idea. A terribly, irresistably, deliciously bad idea.

I'm thinking he's a buttered chess piece kind of guy.

Hydranova
2014-02-14, 11:50 PM
What? No, GOOD HEAVENS MAN! What do you think he is, a BARBARIAN? Only low-lifes, scoundrels, and the devil (or chief Overgoat as the case may be) of Hell lower themselves to eat butter!

Pseudo_Nym
2014-02-15, 12:03 AM
Certainly not ordinary butter. I say, sir, I say. The very thought of it.

But there are creatures of the Neath that produce, as it were, a most respectable buttery-like substance...

Edit: Sent Eldan a cat. I assume he'll tell us if he ever tires of the things.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-15, 04:01 PM
If Eldan tires of cats, we can also wait for the Square of Lofty Words cards to send him rats.

Also, I note that the Buttered Chess-Piece says "triply creamy zee-butter"...and I wonder what sort of butter that may be.

Pseudo_Nym
2014-02-15, 06:04 PM
Speaking of rats, I seem to have an infestation. They're in my lodgings, my lunches, and my dreams, and it's really quite the nuisance. No painless answer to that, is there?

Eldan
2014-02-15, 08:00 PM
I sent Mr Eaten a cat in the name of the playground.

Hydranova
2014-02-15, 08:26 PM
I originally was going to send him a Jar of Teeth. However I looked up what happened to the guy who sent Mr Eaten a calling card back in December. I swiftly rescinded the offer.

Pseudo_Nym
2014-02-15, 10:28 PM
I'm really taking a beating from these rats.

Technically, I'm taking a beating from my own senseless attempts to get rid of them, despite them causing far less harm than I'm causing myself. I'm paying large amounts of rostygold for the privilage of having my lodgings sprayed with large amounts of poison, giving me large amounts of wounds. And I'm still barely making progress. Not going to stop me, though.

What happened to the guy who sent Mr. Eaten a calling card? Do we need to worry about Eldan?

Hydranova
2014-02-15, 11:36 PM
Well, what I heard happen is, you can choose to go someplace where you can fail leaving. And you can't have more than a certain amount of menaces to even try leaving. And the only way to lower those menaces is through Time, the Healer. I'd look up Mr Eaten's Calling Card for the juicy details.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-16, 01:10 AM
As a quick sum-up, it was a chain of meta-events (and a glitch or two) which eventually led to a bit of a fiasco that suspended Seeking Mr. Eaten's Name until such time as they could rework it.

Eurus
2014-02-16, 02:34 AM
Man, that's really sad. Mr. Eaten was probably the most unique and fascinating experiment in that game, and it's unfortunate that people reacted so negatively to what you'd think was always going to be inherently experimental and risky content (and any new content is always rough and potentially glitchy, that's just how it works and one of the risks of racing ahead).

Luzahn
2014-02-16, 04:36 AM
Does anybody know what the "The Neath's Mysteries" card actually does when someone is invited? I'm thinking it might be useful for a new player to receive, but I honestly have no idea.

Hydranova
2014-02-16, 10:08 AM
As a quick sum-up, it was a chain of meta-events (and a glitch or two) which eventually led to a bit of a fiasco that suspended Seeking Mr. Eaten's Name until such time as they could rework it.

Wait, SMEN was actually postponed?


Does anybody know what the "The Neath's Mysteries" card actually does when someone is invited? I'm thinking it might be useful for a new player to receive, but I honestly have no idea.

I think it increases one of your Neath's mysteries qualities (Seeing Through the Eyes of Icarus, Walking through the Fallen Cities, Touched by Fingerwork, and Seeking the Gates of the Garden).

Eldan
2014-02-16, 10:42 AM
Wait, SMEN was actually postponed?


Seems to be, yes. I was already a bit into it (Seeking the Number, IIRC), but now I can't find any way to advance further. Annoying, really, since I had already invested several prison terms and deaths into it.

Pseudo_Nym
2014-02-16, 10:44 AM
Wait, SMEN was actually postponed?

What Went Wrong, What Came After (http://www.failbettergames.com/?p=1331)

Rather depressing. I was looking forward to immense suffering and loss, and now it seems I've lost the opportunity. It will return, but 'it can't be exactly the same,' and 'it'll keep its fangs, but it'll have to be domesticated.' I'm not sure I like the sound of a domesticated Mr. Eaten...

Iruka
2014-02-16, 12:01 PM
What Went Wrong, What Came After (http://www.failbettergames.com/?p=1331)

Rather depressing. I was looking forward to immense suffering and loss, and now it seems I've lost the opportunity. It will return, but 'it can't be exactly the same,' and 'it'll keep its fangs, but it'll have to be domesticated.' I'm not sure I like the sound of a domesticated Mr. Eaten...

That link gives me a server error.

Thanks to everyone who sent me a gift! If I can gather enough stuff in time, I'll send you something in return. :smallsmile:

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-16, 12:53 PM
They're planning on bringing SMEN (with a little less brutality, it seems) in a couple months or so, I think.

Luzahn
2014-02-16, 12:58 PM
I'm scraping together some of my odd items to send some gifts, so be on the lookout for those. Hopefully I'll be able to manage one for most people.

Iruka
2014-02-16, 04:16 PM
I just found the Delicious Guide to Fallen London (http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/vajo/fallenlondon/Chapters.html), would be a good link for the first post.

Luzahn
2014-02-16, 04:43 PM
By the way, are we able to get multiple Feast companions? Or will selecting one lock the rest out?

Iruka
2014-02-16, 05:35 PM
By the way, are we able to get multiple Feast companions? Or will selecting one lock the rest out?

I concluded that you can have multiple companions, based on the fact that people on the FL forum mentioned already having most of them from last year and that the card says that you can have only one of each but nothing about getting only one companion total.

Eldan
2014-02-16, 06:03 PM
I got a Canny Costermonger last year and named her Sally. This year, I seem to be able to get another, at the very least.

Luzahn
2014-02-16, 06:29 PM
My plan is to get that fancy chess-playing ape first, and go from there. I missed the feast last year, unfortunately. Too caught up with being at sea.

Hydranova
2014-02-16, 10:20 PM
so, has anyone found out the lorebits behind the fate-locked destinies?

Eldan
2014-02-17, 02:33 AM
The game just sent me the most adorably bad poetry:

'My heart is like a singing bat'
'Whose nest to rocky cave-roof clings
My heart is like a marshy fen
Whose toadstools bloom in fairy rings'

It's no good, but it's heartfelt. Someone has a penchant for you.


Also, fate-locked content generally can't be posted online. The makers don't allow it and the wiki-writers generally respect it.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-17, 10:22 AM
That is beautiful. Oh, Neathy poetry.

Also, new weekly snippet up (https://twitter.com/EchoBazaar/status/435373128236400640). This time, it's MAJOR CASH-IN!!! (If you have the stuff.)

Luzahn
2014-02-17, 12:46 PM
But...I like my useless trinkets!

Eldan
2014-02-17, 01:09 PM
Heck no. They are not getting my Zoup, Blood, River in a Box or Vengerat. As far as I can tell, I'll never get another of any of these other than maybe the Blood. And that's crazy expensive.

They can have some violet amber, I have tons.

Edit: they pay badly, too.

Luzahn
2014-02-17, 01:23 PM
We could probably get more zzoup. I don't remember a quality change for that, and the Nadir is always open.

Eulalios
2014-02-17, 01:27 PM
Truly, tis an intriguing experience. Eulalios Skilic, mayhaps at your service.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-17, 01:27 PM
Now that I've done a lot of selling-off, I'm inclined to agree with the "not worth it", on second reflection. Ah, well. Live and learn.

Many thanks to those who have Exceptionally Gifted back! Looks like I'll have enough Masquing to get to the next tier of unique companions!

Also, adding the new person to the list.

Eldan
2014-02-17, 01:52 PM
I'm currently grinding for Gifts of Scorn from the Wheel of Affection. Turns out surprisingly easy, I already met the Tattooed Pirate and the Spy woman.

Varen_Tai
2014-02-17, 02:33 PM
I'm currently grinding for Gifts of Scorn from the Wheel of Affection. Turns out surprisingly easy, I already met the Tattooed Pirate and the Spy woman.

Wheel of Affection? Where's that?

Eldan
2014-02-17, 02:34 PM
Mrs. Plenty's Carneval has some Feast content. Some of those can give you Gifts. Most are quite profitable.

Wookieetank
2014-02-17, 02:37 PM
Truly, tis an intriguing experience. Eulalios Skilic, mayhaps at your service.

Greetings and welcome delicious friend.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-17, 03:02 PM
I'm currently grinding for Gifts of Scorn from the Wheel of Affection. Turns out surprisingly easy, I already met the Tattooed Pirate and the Spy woman.
How's that managing? I've only gotten Romantic Notions from it; do you get a Gift of Scorn when you fail the luck check?

Hiro Protagonest
2014-02-17, 03:05 PM
I managed to trade in my Hungover Terrier for an Araby Fighting Weasel. Excellent. :smallamused:

Eldan
2014-02-17, 03:12 PM
How's that managing? I've only gotten Romantic Notions from it; do you get a Gift of Scorn when you fail the luck check?

Yes. And the gift, in turn, is worth 1 Masquing.

Luzahn
2014-02-17, 03:28 PM
Hm, It's a bit disappointing to hear that. Sort of undercuts the non-Fate gifts.

Eldan
2014-02-17, 03:44 PM
Eh, not really. After two days, I have earned and exchanged about 20 masquing, just from the Wheel of affection and the occasional rose card.

Hiro Protagonest
2014-02-17, 03:52 PM
Where's the lady in lilac to turn in gifts?

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-17, 03:54 PM
Opportunity card with pretty frequent appearance.

Divayth Fyr
2014-02-17, 03:57 PM
Yes. And the gift, in turn, is worth 1 Masquing.
Of course they've changed the gift of scorn (www.failbettergames.com/fallen-london-changes-february-2014/) - I believe now they can get you only to 5 Masquing...

Also, I've been sending some gifts around - though I'm not sure I'll be able to get them to everyone (when does the feast end btw?)

Luzahn
2014-02-17, 04:01 PM
Ah, that's good to hear. Wouldn't want it to be too easy.

Hydranova
2014-02-17, 04:20 PM
Also, you can now donate notability! That'll be helpful for those Tier 3+4 jobs.

Iruka
2014-02-17, 07:18 PM
Opportunity card with pretty frequent appearance.

'Pretty frequent' my posterior. I got it once in the beginning before I had any stuff to exchange and again just now when I already have too much Masquing to exchange any of my Gifts of Scorn. :smalltongue:
Oh well, I can still sell them and if the Festival continues for two weeks, I'll be able to get most of the non-Fate companions I want anyway.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-17, 09:33 PM
Welcome to the RNG. :smalltongue:

Those of us who were hunting for Notability back in the Elder Days (when Time the Healer always took 1 point per week; there was no buffer...and to get more Notability, you needed to pass a Making Waves challenge that docked MW if you failed) cursed it heartily for not coughing up the sniveling Amanuensis on a regular basis.

Luzahn
2014-02-18, 04:29 AM
Honestly, I think that was the time where I just made a point of kicking the Amanuensis out every time he came by. :smalltongue:

Iruka
2014-02-18, 07:18 AM
Whoops, accidentally became a Constables' Pet ...
Is there a way to change that?

Grif
2014-02-18, 09:36 AM
So. I just registered. Going under Grifen. :smallsmile:

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-18, 09:56 AM
Eldan, I think this is the best social message I've received yet. Though I was at work, I busted out a small laugh.

(To all others, it's a request to help them with Scandal.)

"Dear Sir

As a person of excellent reputation, I am sure that you can, with some certainty, ascertain that I spent the last evening having dinner with you and your lovely spouse and was not, in fact, spending time at Mrs. Plenty's Carneval, demonstrating a variety of Oriental and Presbyterian dances to an intoxicated crowd, while in a state of déshabillé. I am sure you understand.

Yours, Dr. Blake"

(Also, adding Grif to the opening post.)

Wookieetank
2014-02-18, 12:16 PM
Just got myself to the Forgotten Quarter, score! :smallsmile:

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-18, 12:36 PM
Just got myself to the Forgotten Quarter, score! :smallsmile:
Oooh, have fun with the expeditions!

Luzahn
2014-02-18, 01:07 PM
The Quarter is probably my favorite area. Have fun, and avoid the devil-hunts.

By the way, are most people primarily Watchful? I've noticed it popping up a lot.

Eldan
2014-02-18, 01:10 PM
It seems to be (at least to me) the stat with the most content. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I rarely even particularly focused on it and still ended up 170/150/130/150 or so before I started simply grinding stats. Dangerous, especially, doesn't seem to have much to do.

Hydranova
2014-02-18, 01:29 PM
Well, seeing as Persuasive (69) and Shadowy (44) are going to take a while to grind up as I get distracted, I've decided to invest some of my monetary efforts into saving up for a permit at the Bazaar. I wonder which'll come first, becoming A Person of Importance or getting a room in the Bazaar.

And is there any method as to how the titles after your name are given (the "Such and such is a blank and blank gendertitle" things)? I thought they were stat-based, but then I saw that I wound up with four of them.

Luzahn
2014-02-18, 01:41 PM
After 100 your two strongest stats get two adjectives each.

Pseudo_Nym
2014-02-18, 02:06 PM
After 100 your two strongest stats get two adjectives each.

Huh. I saw the further along people had four adjectives, but I figured passed 100 every stat would get one, rather than two for two. I wonder why they felt two adjectives were needed.

My stats (unmodified) are 35/34/33/36. Today marks the one week anniversery of my descent to the Neath.

Hiro Protagonest
2014-02-18, 02:15 PM
Damn, the weekly storylet's skill challenge takes five actions a piece, but you get four echoes on each success.

And I should've remembered to equip my Ancient Hunting Rifle since without it I do have a 19% chance to fail.

Pseudo_Nym
2014-02-18, 02:19 PM
I've been robbing drunks whenever I need money. 'An anonymous wretch' seems to average 50 primordial shrieks (worth one echo) per action. Sometimes more.

Hiro Protagonest
2014-02-18, 02:21 PM
Really? I do desperately need to increase my Shadow (it's at 19 while my other stats are in their 30s and Watchful is in the 40s), so I'll do that.

Luzahn
2014-02-18, 02:35 PM
With the idea that most people have a high Watchful score simply because it has the most content, I would be curious as to which skills, from a roleplaying standpoint, most represent their characters.

Personally, I go for Watchful / Dangerous. A sort of Indiana Jones-esque archetype.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-18, 03:04 PM
Damn, the weekly storylet's skill challenge takes five actions a piece, but you get four echoes on each success.

And I should've remembered to equip my Ancient Hunting Rifle since without it I do have a 19% chance to fail.
Far as I can tell, it's not very money-efficient. I've seen people line up reward cycles that give you 1.3~ echoes per action. (Usually it's "do things to prep, then cash it in with a big reward at the end".)

BTW, robbing drunks in Spite changes your Airs of London quality, which can be beneficial for certain things (like running an Orphanage, very Airs-dependent).

As for the stats which befit my character, that'd likely be Watchful and Shadowy. I came to the Neath for vengeance, and stayed for what lies in shadows, the secrets to be uncovered.

Eldan
2014-02-18, 03:16 PM
That's only for people with really high stats, though. I guess for low-stat players, it might not be bad.

That said, it's perfectly possible to grind for 1.4 or even 1.5 echoes per action as a significant person. Currently, for really high persuasive, there's dancing at the Carneval that produces three 50 pence items for 1 action.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-18, 04:00 PM
That's only for people with really high stats, though. I guess for low-stat players, it might not be bad.

That said, it's perfectly possible to grind for 1.4 or even 1.5 echoes per action as a significant person. Currently, for really high persuasive, there's dancing at the Carneval that produces three 50 pence items for 1 action.
Does that count in Scandal gain, though? Because you'll have to make sure that you have an alibi to reduce your Scandal. :smallwink: And that costs actions, which takes epa (actually, I like "PPA", "pence per action" too) down.

Eldan
2014-02-18, 04:04 PM
A success produces no scandal if scandal is already over 3. I just failed a few times because 158 isn't quite enough persuasive.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-18, 04:08 PM
A success produces no scandal if scandal is already over 3. I just failed a few times because 158 isn't quite enough persuasive.
Huh! That's good to know! (I almost capped out on Persuasive, so I should be fine.)

*dance dance dance*

Eldan
2014-02-18, 04:56 PM
And if you fail, I owe you a dinner that totally had nothing to do with dancing.

Luzahn
2014-02-18, 05:47 PM
I've just stumbled across a very interesting Bundle of Oddities result. Perhaps it would be appreciated by others with Revolutionary sentiment?

London Street Signs

Forbidden goods! There's a manifesto of sorts, too, crudely printed... "This is not our city. Our city has departed. This is its crouching corpse. This is the shell accreted round it. We are overwritten by the Masters. They will forget us down into the ground. They will make of us lacre. The streets are dead, but let us remember them. Chalk their old names high! Let them be remembered in flame!"

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-19, 01:53 PM
Ah, the bit about the lacre, you mean? I'd heard of that...

Oh, the Revolutionaries. I sympathize with your sentiment. Not necessarily so much with your methodology.

Eldan
2014-02-19, 01:55 PM
Okay, as someone who never got into Lacre much, what are they talking about? Is Lacre Soylent Green?

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-19, 03:53 PM
Okay, as someone who never got into Lacre much, what are they talking about? Is Lacre Soylent Green?
Apparently so, from what I've heard.

Some speculation (http://community.failbettergames.com/topic5824-lacre-souls-the-devils-and-you.aspx) on the official forums.

Also, thanks to all of your delicious gifts, I am at 12 Masquing (having previously redeemed 3 Masquing for the attention of the Pirate-Poet). Now, I wonder whom I should gain as my next compatriot?

(By the by, I ought to give some of the delicious newcomers their Rose-gifts. If I've overlooked you, please do tell me!)

Varen_Tai
2014-02-19, 04:00 PM
(By the by, I ought to give some of the delicious newcomers their Rose-gifts. If I've overlooked you, please do tell me!)

I've already got a gift or two from you, but I *am* interested to know what you will do with the story tidbit I sent ya last week.

The game is afoot! :nale:

Eldan
2014-02-19, 04:08 PM
The Ghostly Presence is fun, I just got that. And I don't think that I'll ever get to 40 with random rare successes, so the nice companions are probably out.

It's a bit sad, really. They are all quite flavourful, but I can't use companions who give less than +8 on a stat.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-19, 04:25 PM
I've already got a gift or two from you, but I *am* interested to know what you will do with the story tidbit I sent ya last week.

The game is afoot! :nale:
Indeed! Curious, most curious indeed. I daresay, I believe I got the most curious reply when I showed it to the lady in lilac...

The Ghostly Presence is fun, I just got that. And I don't think that I'll ever get to 40 with random rare successes, so the nice companions are probably out.

It's a bit sad, really. They are all quite flavourful, but I can't use companions who give less than +8 on a stat.
Yeah; I'm just planning on acquiring a coterie of Neathly personages. I'm well-past the stat boosts given by them. My Scuttering Squad and Laconic Prodigy cover everything but Persuasive, and my Salt Weasel covers that.

Eldan
2014-02-19, 04:36 PM
I have a Scuttering Squad, too, and an Appreciation society for the rest.

But yeah. I'm mostly just a collector, too.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-19, 04:51 PM
I used to have an Appreciation Society...

...then they left me when I started my intensive publications on the Correspondence. Hmph. Waffling piffles!

Luzahn
2014-02-19, 05:11 PM
Apparently so, from what I've heard.

Some speculation (http://community.failbettergames.com/topic5824-lacre-souls-the-devils-and-you.aspx) on the official forums.


Hmm, I wasn't quite thinking that Lacre is people!, I had initially assumed we were going the Body Snatchers route. The first bit makes more sense though, given the context.

"You see? This is why I support the Revolutionaries. Half of them might be dangerously mad bombers or socialists, but they're all we've got. And I wouldn't put any faith in the Devils. From what my Falcon has passed on, they've been working with the Bazaar since at least the Fourth City's fall. They know what awaits us.

Of course, this is also why I have the Zubmarine. I hear some Fourth City survivors are set up in the East. That might be helpful."

Hiro Protagonest
2014-02-19, 05:15 PM
I chose to be closest to the constables when the option came up (I only have connection 2 with The Great Game, so I felt I didn't have enough to say I was closest to them), but after getting the "Cities that fell" card that said that the masters did pull the other four cities down too, I've decided to go for the overthrowing the masters route. Still prefer to support the constables over the criminals, although I do quite a few "repossessions" they wouldn't approve of. :smalltongue:

Hydranova
2014-02-19, 07:03 PM
I've thrown my lot in with the Church, especially seeing as how a certain wrasslin', fiery, bombastic Bishop appears to be London's best bet.

Though, I wonder how the Destinies tie into this. I wager that Gloom= you End a lot of things, but I'm not familiar with the other ones.

Eldan
2014-02-20, 05:50 AM
Okay, these messages are getting really funny. Though I should inform Hydranova that Dr. Blake is probably not a medical doctor, but one of science. I say probably because he has spent so much time in the Nadir lately, he probably can't remember unimportant details like which of his publications was his actual thesis.

Hydranova
2014-02-20, 11:27 AM
Well, this IS Fallen London. You'd probably do a bang-up job of being a doctor anyways.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-20, 11:43 AM
And what's the worst you could do? Kill someone? Ha!

Luzahn
2014-02-20, 12:01 PM
By the way, has anyone else notice a lack of Slowcake's Amanuensis since the Feast started? I'm sure it's just RNG being RNG, but it's curious.

Varen_Tai
2014-02-20, 12:47 PM
OK, so what's the thought here: I have a Dreadful Surmise, which are priced around 300 Echoes in the Bazaar. They currently don't do anything and seem designed to be a cash only item. Should I sell it or hang onto it, juuuuust in case it becomes relevant some day?

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-20, 12:51 PM
OK, so what's the thought here: I have a Dreadful Surmise, which are priced around 300 Echoes in the Bazaar. They currently don't do anything and seem designed to be a cash only item. Should I sell it or hang onto it, juuuuust in case it becomes relevant some day?
Hang onto it. During Christmas, it unlocked an option with lacre. I'm almost positive it'll have uses in the future.

I never sell the ~300 echo items. Almost impossible to replace. (I don't remember how I managed to get my second Starstone Demark, but you don't get lucky like that often.)

Eldan
2014-02-20, 01:06 PM
By the way, has anyone else notice a lack of Slowcake's Amanuensis since the Feast started? I'm sure it's just RNG being RNG, but it's curious.

I did meet him. On hte other hand, I've probably spent a real time month, now, waiting for that message that allows me to become a correspondent.

As for items, I've been a collector for a long time. I only consider selling something if I have at least 2 of it.

Pseudo_Nym
2014-02-20, 07:29 PM
(I don't remember how I managed to get my second Starstone Demark, but you don't get lucky like that often.)

Traded 680 Certifiable Scraps, perhaps? Just saw that card. Seems you can get almost anything with enough Scraps. But I never sell my last copy of anything, either. Not even the diamond you start the game with.

Also, there's a repeatable storylet in Spite, "Confound the Constables," that reduces Suspicion considerably. Are there equivalents for the other menaces? Particularly Nightmares?

rweird
2014-02-20, 07:48 PM
Hello, I too am a Fallen Londoner (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/rweird). If anyone wants to be my protégée, I am an Invisible Eminence and can tutor you in the Shadowy arts. I'm open for pretty much any social actions (not accepting pass the cat, though I am willing to send cats too people). I don't recommend Starveling Cats (gives -3 persuasive, only action you can take just increases nightmares and wounds), unless SMEN comes back and your a Seeker, it just is a Bad Thing. I really don't have anything to do (I'm trying to get an Übergoat and the Cider, but both of those aren't exactly achievable). I am in the Moon League (Knife and Candle) if anyone wants to duel.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-20, 09:27 PM
Added to the ever-growing list! Do you have a profession yet? You might want to do some Making Waves grinding to get enough Notability for it. Then...I dunno. If you really want a high goal to aim for, you could also try for some of the new Lodgings. Those have some hefty requirements, though.

rweird
2014-02-20, 09:37 PM
Added to the ever-growing list! Do you have a profession yet? You might want to do some Making Waves grinding to get enough Notability for it. Then...I dunno. If you really want a high goal to aim for, you could also try for some of the new Lodgings. Those have some hefty requirements, though.

I'm a Crooked Cross and still have 6 notability. I have all the lodgings excepts for the Sanctum in the Brass Embassy, or possibly one of the new three-card ones only available through the wicket. I don't want to try my Location of the Prince of Hell for the Sanctum unless I get a second (I'm slowly grinding for scraps, but, being opportunity card based, its hard to be a sole focus). I'm grinding the Affair of the Box for echoes, and various other stories for connections. I probably will try Ambition: Enigma, if I can ever figure out how to start it. :smalltongue:

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-20, 10:49 PM
Darn! (And I've been mildly intrigued by the Ambition, but not enough to put effort into it.)

You could also start another character, I suppose, with a second account? And go through the content again for refreshers (and maybe a different Ambition).

Eldan
2014-02-21, 02:56 AM
Hello, I too am a Fallen Londoner (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/rweird). If anyone wants to be my protégée, I am an Invisible Eminence and can tutor you in the Shadowy arts. I'm open for pretty much any social actions (not accepting pass the cat, though I am willing to send cats too people). I don't recommend Starveling Cats (gives -3 persuasive, only action you can take just increases nightmares and wounds), unless SMEN comes back and your a Seeker, it just is a Bad Thing. I really don't have anything to do (I'm trying to get an Übergoat and the Cider, but both of those aren't exactly achievable). I am in the Moon League (Knife and Candle) if anyone wants to duel.

How does one get into Knife and Candle? I've read up on it online and I still don't get it.

Also, pah on the Starveling Cat. Pah. I'm a collector. I have several eyeless skulls lying around just because they look cool. A cat won't scare me.

Luzahn
2014-02-21, 06:19 AM
Hmm, I'm having trouble deciding which 200-level trait I'm going to want. Watchful has always been my main, but I suspect that a lot of people will go for that.

Dangerous seems less popular, and it's good to fill a niche. Is there any reason An Extraordinary Mind is listed as needing seven notability, while the others want five?

Eldan
2014-02-21, 06:39 AM
Man, this feast is ruining my reputation. I'm on my fourth trip to the Tomb colonies now, in about as many days.

rweird
2014-02-21, 09:28 AM
How does one get into Knife and Candle? I've read up on it online and I still don't get it.

Also, pah on the Starveling Cat. Pah. I'm a collector. I have several eyeless skulls lying around just because they look cool. A cat won't scare me.

At Watchmaker's Hill, there is a storylet called "The Gamekeeper's Cottage", if you have 50 dangerous and 101 whispered secrets, you can join. Other players also can send invites for an iron knife token.

I see. I suppose I'm somewhat of a collector too, though I don't collect things that are just detrimental unless they are needed for a story. Sure I might look into it (excepts for SMEN), though once I've done it, I'd try to get rid of it.

Eldan
2014-02-21, 09:36 AM
At Watchmaker's Hill, there is a storylet called "The Gamekeeper's Cottage", if you have 50 dangerous and 101 whispered secrets, you can join. Other players also can send invites for an iron knife token.

I... huh. Is that new? Because I remember visiting the Gamekeeper's Cottage before, when I saw it mentioned as a way into Knife-and-Candle, and the story was locked, then. Or rather, only the second storylet was there, the one which required you to already be a member.

rweird
2014-02-21, 09:45 AM
I... huh. Is that new? Because I remember visiting the Gamekeeper's Cottage before, when I saw it mentioned as a way into Knife-and-Candle, and the story was locked, then. Or rather, only the second storylet was there, the one which required you to already be a member.

It was made less experimental at some point, and opened to everyone. Not sure exactly when.

Originally, joining was fate-locked, unless you were invited, though back on the Failbetter Forums, there was some thread where you can request invites. I got invited rather early on.

GnomeGninjas
2014-02-21, 10:48 AM
I didn't realize we had a Fallen London thread here! I (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Jimmy~Paladin~of~the~Last~Alliance) have reached a fairly high level though I'm running out of things to do. I could try to max my scores or get an Übergoat however those would be awfully long grinds. I've spent a few days Advancing the Liberation of Night however I don't know if that will actually lead into a story. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Heck no. They are not getting my Zoup, Blood, River in a Box or Vengerat. As far as I can tell, I'll never get another of any of these other than maybe the Blood. And that's crazy expensive.

They can have some violet amber, I have tons.

Edit: they pay badly, too.
I actually found the M_____'s B____ to be a very good trade. They give you very rare item with the same sell value as the M_____'s B____ and I don't think there is (currently) any other way to get that item.

Eldan
2014-02-21, 10:52 AM
I actually found the M_____'s B____ to be a very good trade. They give you very rare item with the same sell value as the M_____'s B____ and I don't think there is (currently) any other way to get that item.

Hmmmm. Is that so...
I might consider it then. After I look into alternative sources of M_____'s B____.

PS: Ah. Five tears of the bazaar. That will be difficult. But doable.
PPS: The deal is done.

Hydranova
2014-02-21, 10:44 PM
So. Any tips on raising that Potential to higher than 70/75? I don't want to use my special items yet.

Hiro Protagonest
2014-02-21, 10:55 PM
So I just decided to rob a drunk cavalry officer with a 48% chance of success. First try, succeed, get his sword-cane. Great! I kinda wanted that. Same Persuasive bonus as the Warm Amber, although I'll still switch to the Ancient Hunting Rifle for Dangerous challenges.

Also, anyone know reliable ways of getting Prisoner's Honey? I used to have one in Veilgarden, but now I just have the "deepen your acquaintace with Prisoner's Honey" option, which loses some. Only way I've found is that Bohemian card you occasionally get.

Pseudo_Nym
2014-02-21, 11:10 PM
You can "Rob a Honey Den" in Spite, with 32 Shadowy. And if there was an option you liked but is too easy for you now, you can try messing around with your equipment to lower your stats.

rweird
2014-02-21, 11:10 PM
Jade Dragon: That depends on your scores. If you are PoSI (judging from your profile, I doubt that), you can gain some from Unfinished Business in Veilgarden. I think that you can rob a honey-den with the right shadowy score (~30 perhaps, don't quite recall) in the spite, or at least steal it from one of the stories. If your scores are too high, equipping a talkative rattus faber can decrease them, unlocking lower level stories again.

EDIT: Ninja'd. Or perhaps… Urchin'd

EDIT 2: You can trade Greyfields 1879 at the honey den for prisoners honey, gets you 40 drops for 50 Greyfields if successful. I don't know the difficulty.

Hydranova
2014-02-22, 01:11 PM
Huzzah! Got a coruscating soul from the Tale of the Fidgeting Writer chain. Any suggestions on what to do with it?

rweird
2014-02-22, 01:18 PM
Huzzah! Got a coruscating soul from the Tale of the Fidgeting Writer chain. Any suggestions on what to do with it?

Considering I've never heard of it, I assume it is a high value infernal item. Personally, I'd probably save it, though I don't think it would have a use besides selling it… yet.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-22, 01:39 PM
Yeah, it's a top-tier item (congrats!) worth 312 echoes and 50 pence. Try and get another one!

Hydranova
2014-02-22, 01:47 PM
If you use a Tale of Terror! to pursue the Case of the Fidgeting Writer, you get a chain of items wherein you can either give up the item for something, or roll the dice and try to proceed.

What I want to know is, why couldn't one combine the Black Lens with the Nephrite Glass? That'd be something to see.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-22, 02:42 PM
Or something to unsee, as it were.

Hydranova
2014-02-22, 03:01 PM
True. Though, heavens forbid you used the combined lenses to look at one of the SMEN candles. I can't think of anything more foolish to do in Fallen London.

rweird
2014-02-22, 03:24 PM
True. Though, heavens forbid you used the combined lenses to look at one of the SMEN candles. I can't think of anything more foolish to do in Fallen London.

Arguably, the fact you are Seeking Mr. Eaten's Name in the first place is more foolish. :smalltongue:

Eldan
2014-02-22, 05:58 PM
If you use a Tale of Terror! to pursue the Case of the Fidgeting Writer, you get a chain of items wherein you can either give up the item for something, or roll the dice and try to proceed.

What I want to know is, why couldn't one combine the Black Lens with the Nephrite Glass? That'd be something to see.

I've never heard of either of these items. Where are the yfrom? I'm a collector, I must know. I'll already have to do a silly amount of wine grinding to get my M_____'s B____ back.

rweird
2014-02-22, 06:02 PM
I've never heard of either of these items. Where are the yfrom? I'm a collector, I must know. I'll already have to do a silly amount of wine grinding to get my M_____'s B____ back.

The Tale of the Fidgeting Writer, it is a bunch of matter of luck challenges starting with a Tale of Terror (inventory tab), where you can always abandon the story for an ever-increasing reward, or continue till the end in the hopes of something even better. I believe the Black Lens is a higher end reward from it. The Nephrite Glass is an exotica (like the counterfeit heads of saint John and giggling mandrakes).

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-22, 06:39 PM
Failing the luck checks for the Fidgeting Writer now seems to grant some Making Waves.

Luzahn
2014-02-22, 06:49 PM
Ooh, that might actually give me a reason to slog through to the end.

Tectonic Robot
2014-02-23, 12:11 PM
I'm TectonicRobot... if anyone wants to find a few simple diversions with me.

Hydranova
2014-02-23, 02:49 PM
Question: Should I save my Literary Works, or just sell 'em?

Eldan
2014-02-23, 05:02 PM
There's a few other uses for them. The only one I remember right now is becoming an author, which requires a high-quality story.

Eldan
2014-02-24, 02:48 AM
Well, it took ages for that d__n letter to show up, but finally, I am now a correspondent. Of course, those ingrates who called themselves my "Appreciation Society" fled in droves once I turned my talent to serious matters instead of idle prose and poetry, but then, what do they know. I have proven the inconsistency of neathly gravity. What, compared to that, is a mere piece of fiction.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-24, 10:13 AM
Well, it took ages for that d__n letter to show up, but finally, I am now a correspondent. Of course, those ingrates who called themselves my "Appreciation Society" fled in droves once I turned my talent to serious matters instead of idle prose and poetry, but then, what do they know. I have proven the inconsistency of neathly gravity. What, compared to that, is a mere piece of fiction.
Ugh. Tell me about it. The poltroons have no appreciation for the depths of that scholarship.

Eldan
2014-02-24, 10:53 AM
Aye. In other news, I now have every rose companion with a cost of 10 or less, but 19 leftover gifts of scorn and 12 masquing.

Oh well. Perhaps there will be another use for it at some point.

Varen_Tai
2014-02-24, 11:03 AM
Aye. In other news, I now have every rose companion with a cost of 10 or less, but 19 leftover gifts of scorn and 12 masquing.

Oh well. Perhaps there will be another use for it at some point.

Getting to know the Captivating Princess was an excellent use of my Masquing. :elan:

Eldan
2014-02-24, 12:54 PM
Oh? How does one do that? Because I've only seen her mentioned very rarely.

Varen_Tai
2014-02-24, 01:01 PM
Oh? How does one do that? Because I've only seen her mentioned very rarely.

She showed up on a rarer instance of the Feast of Roses card - you have to attend the Duchess's Ball. You get an Acquainted with the Captivating Princess and a Dreadful Surmise.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-24, 01:48 PM
Darn! I wish I'd done that.

EDIT: Varen_Tal, I just got your letter (haven't logged on since a few days back). I tried the tutoring, but it says you're past 100, probably because of gear. (It seems that tutoring doesn't care about your base stat, just your modified stat.) This also means that, if you have stat-subtracting pets et al, you can train for longer.

Hiro Protagonest
2014-02-24, 01:51 PM
I'm saving up for that shadowy/watchful companion. Not the spy, the higher tier one.

Varen_Tai
2014-02-24, 01:52 PM
Darn! I wish I'd done that.

It's not terribly difficult to grind 15 Masquing - every FotR card can get you 1-2 Masquing if you choose correctly.

Hiro Protagonest
2014-02-24, 02:21 PM
You know, I'm not sure how having a really loud hat, a fairly shoddy rifle, and a mandrake of questionable obedience makes me better at shroom-hopping, but I'm just gonna roll with it. :smalltongue:

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-24, 02:36 PM
You know, I'm not sure how having a really loud hat, a fairly shoddy rifle, and a mandrake of questionable obedience makes me better at shroom-hopping, but I'm just gonna roll with it. :smalltongue:
Think of it like this:

If there were a gentleperson shroom-hopping past you with a loud hat, a questionably obedient mandrake, and a shoddy rifle like that, wouldn't you think twice before trying to steal back the lead from them?

rweird
2014-02-24, 03:29 PM
Aye. In other news, I now have every rose companion with a cost of 10 or less, but 19 leftover gifts of scorn and 12 masquing.

Oh well. Perhaps there will be another use for it at some point.

Tell me about. All the companions, 25 gifts of scorn, a few misc other gifts, and 21 masquing. I think it'll be exchanged for making waves at the end.

Grif
2014-02-24, 04:21 PM
I have no idea on how to farm Masquing. :smallbiggrin:

On that note, is there anyone here who might be a Watchful patron?

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-24, 04:24 PM
Beyond exchanging gifts, you can spam dancing at the celebrations in the carnival; that gives Masquing on a rare success.

rweird
2014-02-24, 04:42 PM
The opportunity card "The Feast of the Exceptional Rose" gives a bunch of options for it.

Iruka
2014-02-24, 05:39 PM
I've been robbing drunks whenever I need money. 'An anonymous wretch' seems to average 50 primordial shrieks (worth one echo) per action. Sometimes more.

The option 'Take on all comers!' under 'Brawl at the Medusa's Head!' gives similar rewards, I got between 30 and 75 Primordial Shrieks.


Hello, I too am a Fallen Londoner (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/rweird). If anyone wants to be my protégée, I am an Invisible Eminence and can tutor you in the Shadowy arts. I'm open for pretty much any social actions (not accepting pass the cat, though I am willing to send cats too people).

If no one has taken that offer yet, I could make good use of a Patron in the Shadowy Arts.


Beyond exchanging gifts, you can spam dancing at the celebrations in the carnival; that gives Masquing on a rare success.

I prefer The Wheel of Affection. On a failure: A Gift of Scorn (20 p or 1 Masquing, up to 5), small loss in Persuasive; on a success: 10 Romantic Notions, increase in Persuasive; on a rare success: 1 Memory of Light, 1 Antique Mystery, 1 Masquing.

Eldan
2014-02-24, 05:43 PM
Yeah, but the Dance gives 3 intriguing gossip on a success, that's 1.50 echoes. And 3 masking on a rare success.

Iruka
2014-02-24, 05:48 PM
Yeah, but the Dance gives 3 intriguing gossip on a success, that's 1.50 echoes. And 3 masking on a rare success.

Yeah, but a 19% success rate for me means I'll spend most of my time reducing the resulting scandal. :smalltongue:
If you have stats for it, sure.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-24, 05:50 PM
Yeah, but a 19% success rate for me means I'll spend most of my time reducing the resulting scandal. :smalltongue:
If you have stats for it, sure.
I had similar worries, but it turns out you don't get any more Scandal if you're over 3 Scandal.

Divayth Fyr
2014-02-24, 05:56 PM
I had similar worries, but it turns out you don't get any more Scandal if you're over 3 Scandal.
I believe it is capped only for successes.

Hiro Protagonest
2014-02-24, 06:02 PM
I have Scandal 4 and it increased.

rweird
2014-02-24, 07:31 PM
Iruka: Okay, drop me a calling card. I don't have any free evenings at the moment.

Hiro Protagonest
2014-02-24, 10:52 PM
Although it isn't particularly hard to get carnival tickets, doing the "The Exceptional Rose" action at the Carnival is a good way of getting a lot.

Eldan
2014-02-25, 03:29 AM
I believe it is capped only for successes.

That is the case, yes. I have a bit over 80% success now, and I was just sent to the colonies for a fifth time this feast.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-25, 09:54 AM
And in totally-not-related news, I found out how to burn some of my 400+ Confident Smiles!

Eldan
2014-02-25, 10:00 AM
Do tell, good gentleperson.

I have a dilemma. On the one hand, I'm tired of grinding the dance at hte festival. On the other hand, my persuasive grew almost 20 points these last few days nd it's so very money efficient!

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-25, 10:40 AM
Do tell, good gentleperson.

Oh--just by grinding the dance with an 83%ish chance and using a Smile every time. I have yet to fail.

Also, folks, you should totally swing by Lazybones Road. There's a...tantalizing new storylet. With an eventual potential social option. I haven't made my choice yet.

Eldan
2014-02-25, 11:07 AM
Clathermont. D__n. I'll have to find a place where I can read up on the story, it's been so long, I've probably forgotten most of the details.

Eldan
2014-02-25, 11:13 AM
Heh. Fun little fact, probably coincidence, maybe easter-egg: Clathermont says his beloved's eyes are sky-blue. While the eyes of the person you find are apparently violet. Now, look at the sky on the Ladybones Road banner.

CarpeGuitarrem
2014-02-25, 11:16 AM
Heh. Fun little fact, probably coincidence, maybe easter-egg: Clathermont says his beloved's eyes are sky-blue. While the eyes of the person you find are apparently violet. Now, look at the sky on the Ladybones Road banner.
Heh. Actually, based on one of the options in a follow-up storylet...there's a very specific reason behind the eye-color. (Though I like your catch. :smallbiggrin:) So, probably coincidence or easter egg.

Also, I'm still trying to decide on my options. One of the final choices is very in-keeping with my character. But there's a lot...

Varen_Tai
2014-02-25, 11:29 AM
Man, do I follow her and see what she's doing or force the card pull now in case I don't get another chance before the end of the Feast?

Decisions, decisions...