Epic 3.5 Wealth by level chart

[BelGareth]

Just needed this in a game, and thought I'd post it.



LevelWBL
21975000
221200000
231500000
241800000
252100000
262500000
272900000
283300000
293800000
304300000
314800000
325400000
336000000
346600000
357400000
368200000
379200000
3810200000
3911400000
4012600000
4114200000
4216200000
4318600000
4421800000
4526600000
4634600000
4749000000
4876200000
49141800000
50322600000
51849000000
522412200000
537085800000
5421090600000
5563089000000
56189068200000
57566989800000
581700738600000
595101969000000
6015305644200000
6145916653800000
62137749666600000
63413248689000000
641239745740200000
653719236877800000
6611157710274600000
6733473130449000000
68100419390956200000
69301258172461800000
70903774516962600000
712711323550449000000
728133970650892200000
7324401911952205800000
7473205735856130600000
752.19617207567889E+20
766.58851622703148E+20
771.97655486810891E+21
785.92966460432618E+21
791.7788993812978E+22
805.33669814389333E+22
811.60100944316799E+23
824.80302832950398E+23
831.44090849885119E+24
844.32272549655358E+24
851.29681764896607E+25
863.89045294689822E+25
871.16713588406947E+26
883.5014076522084E+26
891.05042229566252E+27
903.15126688698756E+27
919.45380066096267E+27
922.8361401982888E+28
938.5084205948664E+28
942.55252617845992E+29
957.65757853537976E+29
962.29727356061393E+30
976.89182068184179E+30
982.06754620455254E+31
996.20263861365761E+31
1001.86079158409728E+32
1015.58237475229185E+32
1021.67471242568755E+33
1035.02413727706266E+33
1041.5072411831188E+34
1054.5217235493564E+34
1061.35651706480692E+35
1074.06955119442076E+35
1081.22086535832623E+36
1093.66259607497868E+36
1101.0987788224936E+37
1113.29633646748081E+37
1129.88900940244244E+37
1132.96670282073273E+38
1148.90010846219819E+38
1152.67003253865946E+39
1168.01009761597837E+39
1172.40302928479351E+40
1187.20908785438054E+40
1192.16272635631416E+41
1206.48817906894248E+41
1211.94645372068274E+42
1225.83936116204823E+42
1231.75180834861447E+43
1245.25542504584341E+43
1251.57662751375302E+44
1264.72988254125907E+44
1271.41896476237772E+45
1284.25689428713316E+45
1291.27706828613995E+46
1303.83120485841985E+46
1311.14936145752595E+47
1323.44808437257786E+47
1331.03442531177336E+48
1343.10327593532008E+48
1359.30982780596023E+48
1362.79294834178807E+49
1378.37884502536421E+49
1382.51365350760926E+50
1397.54096052282779E+50
1402.26228815684834E+51
1416.78686447054501E+51
1422.0360593411635E+52
1436.10817802349051E+52
1441.83245340704715E+53
1455.49736022114146E+53
1461.64920806634244E+54
1474.94762419902731E+54
1481.48428725970819E+55
1494.45286177912458E+55
1501.33585853373737E+56
1514.00757560121212E+56
1521.20227268036364E+57
1533.60681804109091E+57
1541.08204541232727E+58
1553.24613623698182E+58



Credit to Samduke for showing the WBL table in the DMG pg209 that goes up to 40th.

That however has an error:

https://images2.imgbox.com/ca/5c/PMxgE6oY_o.png


So I fixed it, and found an interesting formula, which i extrapolated to level 155

[Falontani]

Can I invest that all into a single item and have that be my character?

[BowStreetRunner]

Seriously, once you get up into those levels, wealth of that sort should be almost pathetically irrelevant. Whoever heard of a god with a bank account?

[lylsyly]

I like it, but ... does paying the monsters to simply go away still net me xp?

;D

[flappeercraft]

I like it, but ... does paying the monsters to simply go away still net me xp?

;D

Well XP is about overcoming challenges not about killing monsters, even if you payed them you overcame that challenge so you would. Now I want make an epic level character who became epic just by paying monsters to piss off and has never fought in his life yet is the most powerful humanoid.

[Kelb_Panthera]

I don't have the ELH in front of me. Is this ripped from there or did you actually find the formula?

[ezekielraiden]

Somehow, 150 million gold seems small for someone with 110 levels.

[Goaty14]

I don't have the ELH in front of me. Is this ripped from there or did you actually find the formula?

Methinks he found/calculated the formula. I don't have the MIC in front of me, so I can't really check his work...


Ditto these.

Also, WBl for this level is 11,100,000 gp.

I extrapolated the table from the MiC.

For those interested in the maths:


LevelWBLDifferenceIncrease every 3 levels
20760000
21975000215000
221200000225000
231500000300000
2418000003000000
2521000003000000
262500000400000100000
2729000004000000
2833000004000000
293800000500000100000
3043000005000000
3148000005000000
325400000600000100000
336000000600000
346600000600000
357300000700000100000
368000000700000
378700000700000
389500000800000100000
3910300000800000
4011100000800000
4112000000900000100000
4212900000900000
4313800000900000
44148000001000000100000

[BelGareth]

I don't have the ELH in front of me. Is this ripped from there or did you actually find the formula?

Someone pointed out that the DMG has a table to 40th level, which has a decremental formula, which I updated mine with. So it's a rip, and then an extrapolation.


Somehow, 150 million gold seems small for someone with 110 levels.

I changed it, now a level 110 gets: 10,987,788,224,936,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

I think that is 10 Undecillion

[JoshuaZ]

Just needed this in a game, and thought I'd post it.


So I fixed it, and found an interesting formula, which i extrapolated to level 155

What was the formula?

[BowStreetRunner]

The chart looks a lot more believable now than it did before.

Fantasy Fortune magazine is asking characters to submit their current net worth in order to be considered for inclusion in this year's top 100 richest Epic PCs...but I am having trouble figuring out the conversion for some of my assets. Does anyone know the best method to calculate the market value of three worlds, a demiplane, and a dozen pocket dimensions?

[BelGareth]

What was the formula?

I'm not great with math, but I'm fine with Excel.

Basically, I plugged in the amounts, and then found the difference between levels. Did that again, and found the increment only changed by a static number every 3 levels. In this instance 10k at levels 26, 29, ad 32.

This then doubled, AND the spread changed from 9 to 6. (levels 35, 37, and 39)

So following that sequence, the spread changed from 6 to 3 (with another double), and then it doubled in a spread of 1. (level 44)

From there I calculated how many factors I should multiply each level by, with formula based off a .33/3 for each level. =ROUNDDOWN((1-K26)/0.33,0) k26 being the .33 at first, and then .11, and so on. (basically ended up a multiplier of 3 for each level after level 49. So at each level from 49th onwards, the amount it increased by was multiplied by 3.

I'm sure thats as clear as mud.

https://images2.imgbox.com/0a/37/KfDISgnG_o.png

[JoshuaZ]

I'm not great with math, but I'm fine with Excel.

Basically, I plugged in the amounts, and then found the difference between levels. Did that again, and found the increment only changed by a static number every 3 levels. In this instance 10k at levels 26, 29, ad 32.

This then doubled, AND the spread changed from 9 to 6. (levels 35, 37, and 39)

So following that sequence, the spread changed from 6 to 3 (with another double), and then it doubled in a spread of 1. (level 44)

From there I calculated how many factors I should multiply each level by, with formula based off a .33/3 for each level. =ROUNDDOWN((1-K26)/0.33,0) k26 being the .33 at first, and then .11, and so on. (basically ended up a multiplier of 3 for each level after level 49. So at each level from 49th onwards, the amount it increased by was multiplied by 3.

I'm sure thats as clear as mud.


No, that's very clear. And that also suggests that your initial claim about being not great with math but fine with Excel isn't accurate; you just are used to doing math using Excel.

[ManicOppressive]

Really, being good at math almost always means knowing what software to make do the math for you anyway.

[ezekielraiden]

I changed it, now a level 110 gets: 10,987,788,224,936,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

I think that is 10 Undecillion

Correct. Probably rounded up to 11 undecillion, since that's literally a gain of .1% over the actual value.

Makes me wonder how many Earth masses that pile of platinum pieces would be.

Edit: Well, I don't know about platinum, but at 50 gp = 454 grams, 11 undecillion gp = over 50,000 solar masses, meaning you've got a supermassive black hole. Impressive.

[flappeercraft]

Edit: Well, I don't know about platinum, but at 50 gp = 454 grams, 11 undecillion gp = over 50,000 solar masses, meaning you've got a supermassive black hole. Impressive.

Well then seemingly at level 110 even a commoner is relevant in combat because I'm pretty sure its hard to beat a supermassive blackhole in raw destructive power without pun pun like crap.

[Arael666]

Ok, since no one else seems to care, I'm gonna be the one to ask why did you need a wbl table that goes to lvl 155? :smallconfused:

[BowStreetRunner]

Ok, since no one else seems to care, I'm gonna be the one to ask why did you need a wbl table that goes to lvl 155? :smallconfused:Why wouldn't you need one?

[JoshuaZ]

Correct. Probably rounded up to 11 undecillion, since that's literally a gain of .1% over the actual value.

Makes me wonder how many Earth masses that pile of platinum pieces would be.

Edit: Well, I don't know about platinum, but at 50 gp = 454 grams, 11 undecillion gp = over 50,000 solar masses, meaning you've got a supermassive black hole. Impressive.

That's only a black hole if the radius is small enough. With 50,000 solar masses that's a Schwarzschild radius of around 10,000 km, so as long as you keep it reasonably spread out to start with you are fine.

Edit: Also, in practice most of one's wealth would probably be in non-platinum coins, like hyperexpensive but very small magic items.

[RNightstalker]

If you actually equip a 40th level character per the chart in the book, you still don't actually have enough gold to just go get one of everything from the ELH.

[tyckspoon]

If you actually equip a 40th level character per the chart in the book, you still don't actually have enough gold to just go get one of everything from the ELH.

Which is fine, 'cause the vast majority of the ELH items are pretty lame, severely overpriced for what they do, or both. You do however have more than enough money to go buy one of virtually every non-Epic item, which will probably work out stronger in the end (even with the extra surcharges for cramming things into combined slots or custom slotless items.) The only Epic things you really need, IMO, is a suitably high base bonused weapon if you're a hitting-things type, a +whateveryoucanafford item for your main stat and Con (Epic Spellcasting does this soooo much better if it's in play, mind) and several rods of Excellent Magic to sub for XP costs for Epic Spells. I suppose an Epic Cloak of Resistance at whatever level is left over would also be a good idea, but really you just want to be immune to everything that matters at that point rather than risk rolling saves at all.

[martixy]

That's only a black hole if the radius is small enough. With 50,000 solar masses that's a Schwarzschild radius of around 10,000 km, so as long as you keep it reasonably spread out to start with you are fine.

Edit: Also, in practice most of one's wealth would probably be in non-platinum coins, like hyperexpensive but very small magic items.

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but you are dreadfully wrong. Order of magnitude wrong:
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=schwarzschild+radius+of+50000+solar+masses

[JoshuaZ]

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but you are dreadfully wrong. Order of magnitude wrong:
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=schwarzschild+radius+of+50000+solar+masses

Oof yeah. Estimating that in my head was a bad move.