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Thread: Incarnum and YOU: a reference guide

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    Orc in the Playground
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    Default Re: Incarnum and YOU: a reference guide

    Quote Originally Posted by ShneekeyTheLost View Post
    And I'm sorry, but a Fighter IS a better shaper than a Soulborn. It has the same ML, can pick up his binds EARLIER, and can end up with more essentia. The build with Incarnate2/Fighter18 has more essentia than a Soulborn... by level 3. That's before the soulborn even GETS the first meldshape.
    Soulborn 20:
    5 Soulmelds (ML 10 for all)
    13 Essentia from class levels
    3 Chakra binds

    Incarnate 2/Fighter 18:
    3 Soulmelds (ML 2 for all)
    2 Essentia from class levels
    1 Chakra Bind

    I2/F18 with 2 Shape Soulmeld feats, 2 Open Chakra Feats, Bonus Essentia and 3 incarnum feats:
    5 Soulmelds (ML 2 for 3, 10 for 2)
    7 Essentia
    3 Chakra Binds

    Fighter 20 at its best:
    5 Soulmelds (ML 10)
    0 Essentia
    2 Chakra Binds
    {Soulmelds/Binds/Essentia can be arranged at a 1:1 rate, depending on what you're going for, but the count is lower than Soulborn regardless of the array}

    The Fighter builds would still have 10-11 fighter feats to build up some combat shtick, compared to the Soulborn's 7 free feats (11-12:8 if Azurin), but even the Incarnate/Soulborn Fighter would still fall 6 essentia short.

    Unless you consider the Dark Chaos shuffle practical op, I'm having a hard time seeing the Fighter coming out ahead.
    Last edited by Jude_H; 2011-09-18 at 08:05 PM.