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    Default Re: Stealing bits of Pathfinder....

    Quote Originally Posted by Talya View Post
    On any given fight, my ideal bard would spend at least 3 daily uses of bardic music. (Inspire Courage, Dragonfire Inspiration, Snowflake Wardance). Try doing that with Pathfinder. Not to mention the nerfs to their spells.

    Pathfinder did some things very right. This wasn't one of them.
    Spells are a better use of their actions. Haste is just as good and new better options like gallant inspiration and inspire heroics got added. In PF they can sing and cast in the same round which is more than twice as good.

    By the time you sing the 3rd song your party won't even get much mileage out of it in 95% of fights. You're buffing the cleanup efforts. It's almost a waste of time to even bother with it.

    It boils down to action economy. More buffs would be nice if they were always active, but they cost an action and there are better things you could do with your actions. On 95% of adventuring days you aren't limited by the number of things you can do you're limited by time so the extra uses beyond that time are 100% useless.
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