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    Default Re: Making Celestials Badass

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane0 View Post
    In regard to fiends, you know that's not necessarily true, right?
    But of course!

    Pure Evil, on the other hand, is rather simple. There may be an intelligent mind that turns it into a lethal force, but Evil, in and of itself, is rather straightforward a concept.

    One of the components of Pure Good, however, is the fact that no one can perfectly agree on what good is, and thus, introspection and the ability to question "what is Good" is one of the central conceits of Good. Thus, Pure Good is rather more cerebral than Pure Evil. Here, intelligent minds who do not fully understand what Good entails make it simple and straightforward, and agathions/guardianals, by virtue of who and what they are, don't do that.

    Also, about the devil thing-that's why I said "matched" and not "exceeds even". A mental duel between the two is likely to resemble something out of Death Note or Code Geass as plot and counterplot dance. And of course, no one said anything about Good being unable to sacrifice a few for the good of the all, and then hate itself afterwards...Or playing Evil against itself...

    EDIT: Basically, in my headcanon, the agathions are responsible for malconvokers after a lovely little story in which they tricked a pit fiend into exposing herself to an artifact that would allow perfect recall of memory...and it caused her to remember her human existence as a loving mother, and how happy it made her to be able to trust someone else implicitly. Hijinks, by which we mean suicide by demon followed by a loss of a rather frightening demonic foothold that was winning them an advantage in the Blood War, and the secrets of pactmaking getting out to the archons (that was not an anticipated benefit, but a welcome one)

    Basically, agathions are a perfect pacifist people normally, until they suspect that they will be able to make a metaphorical omelette by breaking a few eggs. Then they will happily lie, cheat, and steal for the Greater Good, and unlike about every antagonist ever, when they say "it's for a noble cause", they mean it, and will give a very reasoned explanation of why, and why this little grey deed will lead to a direct increase in the amount of happiness and hope in the universe.

    And they're very experienced with their predictive models.
    Last edited by Leliel; 2013-01-23 at 12:28 AM.
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