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    Default Re: Class and Level Geekery XI - Can Now Argue Three Times Per Page

    Quote Originally Posted by Codyage View Post
    So their is no 2E power at all, with the same, or similar ability in 3.5? Because if they are similar(Only by what the spell does, not how it is created, who can create, it etc.) then we can use the power points from 3.5, as our standard to set Wormhole.
    The problem is not that there is nothing to compare, but that the system is so different as to require a significant number of judgment calls.

    Spoilered response, since this has already been covered to death.

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    2nd edition psionics:
    • Did not have levels (or rather, had only 2-- both of which were immediately available at 1st level)
    • Used Psionic Strength Points, not Power Points (which, while similar, lacked the manifester level cap Power Points usage has).
    • Were heavily structured around checks that are kinda-sorta like skill checks, but not really (used the same model as Non-Weapon Proficiencies).
    • Had scaling, but often scaled both/either on PSP cost and check result (Wormhole had both).
    • Had in an absolute sense, fewer uses per day. This is largely a function of lower bonus Power Points. (The same can be said for bonus spell slots between the editions).


    Wormhole in particular is problematic, as it readily filled all same-plane teleportion needs from short range tactical to cross-planet transit (though the later would require a much higher level to make the relevant check and afford the PSP).

    The only real exception to this was teleportation when you could not otherwise move: this caused Dimensional Door to retain some important niche utility.

    If we assume that it is a direct update of the 2nd ed Wormhole, we are largely limited to establishing a 2nd edition level based on its usage. I did so some time back-- based on that usage alone, and including no other powers used, a 2nd edition psionist would need to be level 18 to match Laurin's Wormhole usage.
    Since then, she's added 1 more Wormhole usage and 2 usages of Dimension(al) Door (which is also readily model-able for 2nd ed). That might push it up another level (I haven't checked). The other powers used would almost certainly do so.

    But that would all be for a 2nd edition character, which she is not.
    Last edited by Hecuba; 2013-12-23 at 04:50 PM. Reason: Added math link