The Trend Toward Non-evil Orcs

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I don't really see much of an issue or even difference between the old 2E chaotic evil orcs and the more "Klingon" type you claim to be something different. A society based of a minimal amount of law, take what you can grab and defend, and high levels of violence would generally be described as chaotic and evil-and would thus be filled with chaotic evil members. . . If anything it is a drift away from chaotic stupid orcs to chaotic evil ones.

Look at the amount of law and structure to many elven or Norse civs in the game (many, if not most, being portrayed as CG) and make evil equivalents and you have a mostly CE race.