Quote Originally Posted by Tetrasodium View Post
No there is not. the only armor in the dmg that even includes the word "metal" is the mithral one; but in bizarre contrast adamantine is only a "substance", the phb doesn't state either. You have to look in the MM to find that adamantine is a metal as stated on page 127. The descriptions of the different armor types on phb144&145 all mention if there is metal in them, but most aside from plate devote far more towards describing how leather & nonmetal substances are used.



I'm not surprised, but truly gobsmacked by the level of cognitive dissonance seemingly being displayed here by you after taking so much issue terms like reduced availability/exotic/rare/etc being summed up & defined as "none" yet are so quick to jump ship to the claim that it would suddenly mean "every pc druid" if the phb wording were something like "most druids will not" or similar. You've tried to refute that comparison with an example of a 15ish level party so far coming across maybe 3 magic medium armors with 100% of those being metal "because it made sense where they found them and who owned them before". Then followed it up with a good paragraph on how nonmetal armor would be exotic, your average armorsmith would not know how to make or repair it, so on and so forth before finishing with a comparison to +1 pistols, or a flaming flaming Kusari-gama not being in a every dragon's hoarde...Finally as if it was not clear enough that less common was truly just a another way of saying "none", http://www.giantitp.com/forums/shows...le posts later You repky to someone that how your average blacksmith probably doesn't know much about making armor in what appears to be an attempt to support your claim of less common != none by correcting his villageblacksmith example out how the "your standard armorsmith at the local keep" doesn't know much about making nonmetal armor either even though an armorsmith is far more specialized than a blacksmith & being the armorsmith at the keep implies they are also of at least a moderate level of skill.. in a world with rust druids & monsters.... Other than that, it's perfectly available... on the other side of the world... on top of horrible mount painful death... wherethe secretive hermit is rumored to live.


But hey, if only "most" druids will not wear armor, then that is the same as saying that all pc druids are exceptional in some way that makes them different from average. Exceptional examples.... you know like every other pc class in the game given how CR of a creature with many levels in a PC class can still be well below the number of class levels & no druid can be exceptional.

Perhaps you could explain how given your less common=0% but not none & regular keep armorsmiths won't know how to make it is somehow not the same as "none"; but if the phb only said "most druids will not wear metal armor" then all as in 100% of PC druids would wear it. Given that most is simply a variant of more & more/less are effectively direct antonyms, would things change if it only said "more druids will not wear metal armor than will wear it" or "less druids will wear metal armor than will"?
I'm not surprised, but truly gobsmacked by how thick you have been on this thread missing what others have said.