Quote Originally Posted by Galloglaich View Post
I just mean our default late medieval fantasy setting "Frog DNA" needs to be updated to include firearms for most civilizations that also have plate armor, two-handed swords etc.

I don't think you would see the rapid development of plate armor without the emergence of firearms. Maybe crossbows and powerful bows would be enough to spur it on but I kind of doubt it. There seems to have been an arms race between missiles and armor in which gunpowder played a significant part.

And sure you can take this or that element out of it, but it's a bit like jenga, you take the wrong piece out and the whole thing can start to fall apart.

G

All fair points.