Quote Originally Posted by Kelb_Panthera View Post
With my current group, I might get some good-natured ribbing but otherwise not really.

With a new group, not for very long. I'm a pretty solid optimizer and I specialized my skill in that realm for squeezing every tiny iota of worth out of low-tier classes and builds. As long as the GM isn't antagonistic to it, low-tier classes can hold their own just fine and I can make them shine better than most. Side affect of being a forever-gm in the past and wanting to have variety in my antagonists without just hand-waiving everything. If I can make a bloody forsaker work, getting a fighter up to snuff is no big deal.
What sort of build did you run with the Forsaker? I'm interested in working out how to build one, and so far I'm thinking it might work with the Vow of Poverty bonuses.