Quote Originally Posted by Doug Lampert View Post
Nope, the floor is any level we know he's at least that high.

The floor can be set at 1, he started as human, they always have at least 1HD.

The floor can be set at 11, he became a lich, that needs level 11.

The floor can be set at 21, he's used epic magic. That's the highest we can set the floor, because epic casters can do anything with a bit of optimization.

21 is the highest we can set the floor.
The point is that the floor is the lowest. There is no basement in this. The facts do not allow the floor to be set lower then 21. We could theoretically set it lower, if we had different information, or good reason to believe the information we have is somehow misleading.

I agreed with Peelee's original description, however I thought he said it in a potentially confusing way, and we certainly seem to have one confusee amongst us. If we had different information the floor could maybe go up, but at this point in time it needs to be as low as it is.

If you've played a game with a confusing nomenclature that I haven't, bully for you, but that doesn't make that nomenclature correct, no offence intended.