Quote Originally Posted by Waazraath View Post
But this one really isn't hard to achieve imo; pass without trace is on plenty of spell lists, and available as a racial feature through some classes. The only difficulty is if you also want a disadvantage ging armor wearing person in the party.
I agree, it's not that hard to achieve in some ways, but it's one factor that goes into party evaluation/optimization. If you have TWO druids in a party, for example, my immediate thought is "this party can afford to have pre-summoned meatshields AND still win surprise."