Quote Originally Posted by Fanatic-Templar View Post
I think we're getting tripped up on verbs here. You're saying that the Twelve won't sink Gobbotopia, and I agree with you. But I'm saying that they could. And if you're Redcloak, are negotiating concessions from those gods, and have very little faith in those gods to value the lives of the goblinoid citizens of Gobbotopia, then you'd probably want it in writing that they won't.

And if you're the Twelve Gods, you don't want the Northern Pantheon giving away parts of your territory to other people. It's the Northern Pantheon making the concessions, why don't they give some of their territory?

I'm not making any predictions about what's actually going to happen to Gobbotopia/Azure City, I'm just trying to look at this negotiation from the perspective of the involved parties, and seeing an incoming problem. And obviously this problem can be solved in a manner of ways, like the other two pantheons agreeing to give as much territory as the southern ones do, for an obvious example, but it's still going to be a problem that needs solving.

As a reminder, the perdiction and argument I'm making here is that this negotiation won't go south from the intervention of Xykon, Roy or some other third party. I expect the deal to become a lot more difficult before anyone comes to an agreement.



I'm more reading it as a political issue. Any god could intervene anywhere, but if they have disagreements that could create a god-killing snarl, so they agreed to give each other their own space where they're always right. The problem with the Dark One is that he's definitely a god, so he has to be allowed to do his god things, but all the gods would prefer that he do it somewhere else than on their territory.
Ah, the joy of English. I do agree that the gods could act, in that they have the capability to do so, but I do not think they could act, in that they have the agency/authority to do so. All examples of direct godly intervention on the Material Plane, even within their respective areas, have been remarkably mild. Thor didn't blow up the Mechane, he merely created a storm - one of the worst storms they'd seen, but still a mere storm. Tiamat took zero action towards Vaarsuvius when they were in the desert. Thrym did nothing above informing his clerics that he wanted the airship stopped. These gods have had enormous targets in their own spheres of influence, targets they explicitly harbored resentment towards, and took very little direct action, if any. Even Thor's storm, the most direct divine intervention we've seen, was due to his being the god of storms.

Sure, it's all ultimately bound by politics, but I don't think that is a terribly important line of distinction.

Also, an ideal solution as far as divine territory goes would be to have TDO be the new Eastern god and raise a new Eastern continent, but I sincerely doubt that segregation will play a role in how everything resolves. At least, I hope that will not be the case.

You could also replace "Eastern" with "maybe the world in the rift", but I have the same problem with that.