Death Battle 6: Measured in TNT

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And adaptions don't affect the source material.

The Eye of Aggamoto didn't turn into a time machine in the comics becuase the MCU made it the Time Stone. Tony Stark was not retconned to have built Ultron becuase he did it in the movies. Wolverine did not stop smoking and drinking becuase he's been in a bunch of cartoons. Spider-Man didn't stop being an adult becuase every adaption but the Raimi movies insists on doing teen Spider-Man for some reason even though he was in fricking college by his 30th issue.

Venom isn't going to go back to being a villain after 30 years becuase he's a bad guy in a cartoon. Carnage isn't going to stop being an ensemble villain who is stronger and harder to beat every time he turns up becuase he's gonna be a oneshot villain in Venom's second movie if that ever gets made.

You can be a Spidey villain and still be an anti-hero. That narrative isn't being affected and even casual fans have seen Spidey working with Venom... but they only know of Venom THROUGH Spidey. They only know of Carnage THROUGH Spidey. Without delving any deeper, that's what casuals see. And what they see brands it iconic. Saying otherwise is similar to complaining that Bizarro is still being shown as a Superman villain when HE had a run as an anti-hero. Sure, hardcore fans can dismiss it as WRONG, but the casuals outnumber the hardcore, and what THEY see makes it Iconic.

Hell, a more recent example is how Apocalypse, the First Mutant, is straight up a good guy in the current run of him. Yet conically, he was depicted as a mega bad guy. Hardcore fans can state "no, no he's a good guy now!" but what the casuals see of him, being all evil and crap from cartoons, movies and comics, makes his status quo A Bad Guy.