Quote Originally Posted by Droppeddead View Post
Well, Monks is one of the best base classes so not even a Four Elements Monk is goig to be bad, it's just that they overpay for their subclass abilities and all the other monks have better abilities.

And yeah, Shadow Monks make awesome explorers, especially when combined with three levels of Gloom Stalker and three levels of Rogue Scout...
I feel that Gloom Stalker becomes redundant later on when Shadow Monks gain actual, concentration-free Invisibility. Scout Rogue seems redundant too, although maybe in daylight it adds some value--but for me Shadow Monk is one of those classes that I am not tempted to multiclass.