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    Default Re: Attack on Titan / Shingeki No Kyojin: What's for Lunch?

    Quote Originally Posted by HandofShadows View Post
    I really wonder what Eran's TRUE plan is. Because I really don't think we have seen it yet.
    Perhaps Eren does not believe in Atonement. After all he is not human, he literally has time travel powers (of a sort.)

    Perhaps he is asking the nature of humans to suffer and humans ability to rise against the cause of their suffering.

    To get truly philosophical, (to an absurd decree) Currently but also in the past with "European" thought. Freedom is good, but also to obey is good. Then what happens in the contradiction where afreedom is good, b obeying is good, c but the "ask" that you are being asked to obey is so large, so big, that is beyond human's ability to meet the obligation of the obeying. Thus with "c" when you choose not to obey (b) for the ask is to much, exercising your freedom (a) , you are then labeled a d demon / devil per "philosophical / religious" scholars.

    Per these scholars, this 4 part step of creating demons / devils of the A=>B=>C=>D is how many cultures try to solve the Paradox / Problem of Evil. To try to deal with the tensions of A and B when they come in conflict with C.

    Note there are many other ways to play language games and answer this contradiction.

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    Perhaps Eren no longer believes in the ability for people to "be in harmony" with one another, after all the language origin of "atonement" is about "coming to harmony with one another" aka you once were in conflict / stryfe and via atonement you now have reached harmony / concordia.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurkmoar View Post
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    Get killed, restart the memory loop and see if you can reach and incapacitate Zeke to see if most of this tragedy can be averted. :p
    Yep

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    I believe Eren thinks he is in a groundhog's day / memory loop due to the time travel capabilities of the Attack Titan and how it can reach back in time via memories.

    1) Thus Eren is going to end the loop via killing all who opposed him.
    2) Yet he wants the freedom of people to stop him, to have the possibility of defeating him and thus eating him.
    3) This in turn will give them the ability to speak to their past attack titan holders. A voice in the head to tell them "no" do not do X, instead do Y.
    4) Yet it is up to the attack titan holders to decide if they want to listen or not.

    And thus can the various attack titan holders come up with a solution "via freedom" that they will individually be satisfied with. Can Armin convince Eren to not pursue this path even after Eren has pursued this path and has eaten Eren. Literally 2000 years of history where each individual person has the power of paths up to a max of 13 years and thus we are talking at least 154 attack titan holders, and it can be farm more than 154.

    Yadda, yadda, yadda Cronus myth vs Zeus vs Uranus. You know the metaphor of a green lion consuming / eating the sun. This green lion eating the sun is a common alchemical image and is seen in texts such as the Rosarium philosophorum. The symbol is a metaphor for vitriol (the green lion) purifying matter (the sun), leaving behind gold.
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