Quote Originally Posted by HandofShadows View Post
Yeah, Banner had a VERY bad childhood. His father was an alcoholic and was highly abusive towards Bruce thinking he was a mutant. Eventually Bruce's father murdered his wife (IIRC Bruce witnessed it or something very close) and Bruce ended up in a mental institution for awhile. He was still a child then. So he's really messed up. There's actually a saying that goes like this. "Banner does not protect the world from the Hulk. The Hulk protects the world from Banner." Because if Banner ever really went over to the dark side he would make most super villains' look like amateurs'.
I dont think that saying ever worked. Either Banner was kept in checked by his lack of knowledge due to age, or, when he became smart enough to be a credible threat as a supervillain there was too many people that can stomp him flat. Stark is more or less a god, Richards SPAWNED a god, and is older than Banner, so he would have been able to slap him down when he was young, Doom considers Richards his only equal, so theres that, and Web head may be the youngest in some iterations doesnt detract from the fact that he can shut down both Hulk and Banner.... on all fronts. Hell, Banner would be warm-up training to dealing with Croc. And Doc Oc is far more competent than people realize. Banner would of been put down.

And all of that is with exceeding him mentally. Physically, Hulk has lost to the likes of Juggernaut and Colossus, and Onslaught technically has zero strength and thumped the Hulk. Or Jean or worse, Xavier, can just mind wipe him, since, unlike Wolverine, his body doesn't move without an ego.

Needless to say, that saying is just dumb. Its like believing Batman can punch down Superman without help.