Quote Originally Posted by SpanielBear View Post
Ooooh, dear oh dear.

Where is your permission to make an attack roll?
Permission is not an issue. I am not trying to skip permission or rules. I am just identifying what exactly counts as an attack when that kind of granularity or specificity is required.

So if you present all 3 steps to me collectively we can count that as an attack. Step 3 has an attack roll.

If you ask me when exactly in that 3 step process the attack specifically occurs, the rule will zero in on the attack roll as what definitively counts as an attack.