*Unamused stare* Hamish if your going to argue that individualism and selfishness are fundamentally evil thus necessary evils, we're going to have problems because I don't believe that or being functional or vital for anything for a second.
@ Vahnovoi: okay here is thing about that: yeah sure its a trope. but its blindly holding yourself to it without thought.
Like guys just because a trope exists and existed doesn't mean its a good idea or that we should preserve it for its own sake. sure its old, but that also means its from somewhere foreign. if you get too caught up in what some alien fantasy form of good is, when are you going to portray a fantasy good that y'know, people can actually relate to? a form of good that actually resembles what we know is good rather than bizarre alien good involving looking at eviltrons of people or using your virtutron weapons on other people?
like sure it exists, that doesn't mean it has to stay the same. you can make a Good that is actually good and doesn't kill people for "not being good enough", these tropes are not a straightjacket, you can change and rework them to make more sense. no one is going to weep over the loss of the headaches these tropes cause when played straight, okay? there more ways to use them.
Edit: I agree with Nigel on the Stormlight Archive stuff