Level 1 character vs level 13 character

[Kelb_Panthera]

And to reply to Kelb, it was my friends idea to play a forsaker character to play in an upcoming level 13campaign. The whole argument came up because I was trying to dissuade him from doing that.

Forsaker by itself is a tough row to hoe but it -can- be done. Same for VoP. It was the particular combination that Forsaker and VoP that struck me as a ridiculous idea.

Losing access to magic items is a big deal you've got to use other resources to make up for it; either spend your wealth other ways or use class and feat options. Wealth is off the table for a VoP character and forsaker 10 leaves no room for class features even if forsaker 1 wouldn't forbid them anyway. Any forsaker cuts a lot of more powerful feat options too. I'd go so far as to say it might actually dip below even the pretty shockingly minimal expectations of WotC for capability.

I'm getting ready to play a forsaker in the nearish future and I'm perfectly comfortable with a VoP character with a whole host of builds but BOTH?