Quote Originally Posted by noob View Post
If you can not find out where it is written it might be something gm invented.
Also if demons are too dangerous try devils.

but anyway if what you wrote is true then it means the laziest path to power is to not get class levels but instead get enough money from whichever opportunity you have to then get power.
Or maybe worship sloth: this way the training to get closer to your ideal and be a better cleric is to sit around doing nothing productive.
closest i could find is p.197 on dmg where it says researching and training aren't part of the standard rules. theyre assumed to be going on in the background.

devils demons same thing. your dm has to gift wrap a demon devil on a silver platter to you for you to have access to warlock class. bard doesnt. therefore bard is easier.




we need to set some guidelines.
laziest and easiest path to power is a god just turning you into a god because he or she likes you. the end.
or being born as an abomination.

in other words, some other super entity does 100% of the work for you.

so obviously theres no point in discussing if we allow super entities to do everything for you.
otherwise pazuzu pazuzu pazuzu.

so if we are talking about the self made man to power, imo something that is least dependent on environment or luck, and requires the least amount of hardwork, is the goal.
imo thats a bard.