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    Default Re: Master of Many forms and Human Bonus feat

    Quote Originally Posted by newguydude1 View Post
    gargoyle is my oversight but still, show me one instance in d&d where shapechange gave all the feats of the target creature to the wizard. because thats what your saying here.

    you are saying
    1. all ex abilities must be either special qualities or attacks
    This is RAW. I quoted the relevant text earlier in the thread. All special abilities that aren't modes of attack are special qualities.

    2. since all feats are ex abilities and not attacks, they are special qualities
    I'm pretty sure BoED is the only place that says so. At least i don't know of any other rule that explicitly tells us that feats are (Ex).
    And it's not all feats. Reserve, Psionic and Exalted feats are (Su) and Domain feats are SLA's iirc.

    But yes, assuming that feats are (Ex) unless specified otherwise would make them special qualities, since every special ability that's not an attack is a special quality by default.

    3. therefore if you use momf to turn into an aboleth mage you get Combat Casting, Empower Spell, Eschew Materials, Great Fortitude, Improved Initiative, Lightning Reflexes, Scribe Scroll, Spell Focus (illusion), Spell Focus (enchantment), Spell Penetration.
    An Aboleth Mage is just an Aboleth with 10 levels of wizard. You can't wild shape into one.
    Last edited by sleepyphoenixx; 2020-12-21 at 04:03 PM.