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    Default Re: Class and Level Geekery XVIII - Everyone's an Expert

    Quote Originally Posted by Ephemera View Post
    So what's actually in a climber's kit?
    Quote Originally Posted by 3.5 PHB, p.130
    Climber’s Kit: A climber’s kit includes special pitons, boot tips, gloves, and a harness that aids in all sorts of climbing. This is the perfect tool for climbing and gives you a +2 circumstance bonus on Climb checks.



    Quote Originally Posted by Ephemera View Post
    I guess what I'm getting at is that even if we accept that the dagger is a good handhold, being able to place the dagger as she does seems like a considerably harder climb check.
    Well....for Uncanny Dodge to have done anything in the situation, Haley would need something like the "combat climb" modifier in the expanded skill description in Complete Adventurer to have her Dex bonus to AC while climbing in the first place...and that involves taking a -20 on the check. That'd be doable with the DC 15 "adequate handholds and footholds" base DC, or even the DC 20 "some narrow handholds and footholds"; but at DC 25 "natural rock wall" it'd take boosting her level (for max skill ranks) or assuming a feat.
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