Quote Originally Posted by Naanomi View Post
They are markedly improved from the original model, but still feel like... something a fighter/rogue/druid with the right background could still do better at their core role efficacy
Isn't that partly by design? Being able to build that super outdoorsman as a Ranger or Fighter or Rogue or whatever is no different then being able to build the holy warrior as a Fighter with right background, or a Cleric with the right subclass or a Paladin, etc...