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    Default Re: What 5e subclasses do you think most or least fulfill their intended fantasy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny_Snoggins View Post
    I exclusively play Eloquence bards, and honestly, it's because they are very overpowered. But it almost makes them mismatch their concept IMO. Like, when you stack mind sliver + unsettling words + silver barbs to put like a -14 on a saving throw for someone, you're not just like a really convincing speaker. That's active and very creepy mind control that I think the class should have developed more, making the first generally evil oriented bard.
    I kind of agree, Whispers should be the "evil/creepy debuff bard," but Eloquence is so much better at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    But really, the important lesson here is this: Rather than making assumptions that don't fit with the text and then complaining about the text being wrong, why not just choose different assumptions that DO fit with the text?
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