Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Samurai View Post
The power that people give Charisma is astounding.

So the Empyrean knows that the commoner can't follow through on the threat, and the DM still allows for an Intimidation check, instead of Deception. The commoner is outright lying, but this is Charisma. It's just mind control mumbo jumbo man. You just like... say stuff, and whatever it is if you beat the DC the target is your puppet...
That's not people "giving power to Charisma", that's people saying that if the DM calls for a roll they need to live with the outcome.