Quote Originally Posted by AnonymousPepper View Post
Genuinely don't understand the tier 5 Gunslinger votes, reading back. They're just... factually wrong. Gunslinger has out-of-combat capabilities (4+int with good class skills on top of being either wisdom of charisma based, and utility deeds), and, a far cry from being "just worse than a fighter" (more of a sidegrade really, Trench Fighter aside) or in the same spot as, derogatorily, monk (which is an odd thing to say considering PF did a lot to make Monk good with Qinggong and Unchained), they have the most consistent damage in the game by a long shot and can TWF (hardly a high-op play) for absurd amounts of it. Putting Slinger at a hard 5.0 is just straight-up evidence of unfamiliarity with the class and not knowing what you're talking about, or just not knowing how tiers work.

I'm not going to go so far as to advocate for disregarding the votes or anything, but it's as absurd as if someone were to try and claim Wizard was tier 3, and I'm a little miffed that they're going to skew the average as far as they are ngl.
This has happened every thread. There's been utterly insane ones like T5 occultist (balanced out by oppositely insane T~2 occultist), people rating rogue higher than warpriest, magus higher than shaman, and samurai higher than inquisitor. It usually doesn't skew things too much in the end given sufficient votes but it's happening.