Quote Originally Posted by Jergmo View Post
Er...I'm sorry, what?



But racial hit dice are weaker than class levels. They end up getting behind both in class levels and power.

Level 7 character > Level 1 ogre by a long shot.
Not as much as you might think. Remember, the extra stats and BaB are also included.

Add in the large size for ogres (and the reach that gives them)....not to mention the subtype also gives them an edge. Charm person doesn't work.

That 26 strength doesn't help matters either.