Quote Originally Posted by okpokalypse View Post
All I know is this...

If the argument for ToB beng too much of a replacement for existing classes, I assume you'd have also outlawed the Knight (PHB II) and Psychic Warrior (XPH) which are both FAR superior to any PHB Melee type.
Psychic Warrior yes, Knight... he can compete but a well made Fighter could probably perform a more complex role like Trip-Lockdown, Ubercharging, Bull-Rushing, etc, with greater ease.