Quote Originally Posted by ericgrau View Post
Ya but loremaster doesn't give you much, so it's not so bad, and not everyone loads up on item creation / metamagic. And for sorcerers it's a major trade off that probably isn't worth it. I'd say archmage is a lot worse.
Sorta feel that people can go mini-archmage to an extent with reserve feats now, so the PrC is less effective than it was.

To silverleaf, I think that the Swiftblade is a great example of what a PrC should be. It's a variant of a regular class, focuses on something that class can do, to the point that the PrC does it very well, but also gives up something (6/10 casting)so that a straight wiz/sorc/whatever is still equally powerful.