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2008-12-27, 05:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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[4e] Standard Action = Minor+Move Action but Minor+Move Action =I Standard Action ?
I can substitute my stadard action for example a additional Move action and a minor action or thre minor actions.
Why can't i loose my move and minor action of the turn to get 2 standard actions ?
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2008-12-27, 05:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [4e] Standard Action = Minor+Move Action but Minor+Move Action =I Standard Action
In SWSE that's a full-round action, basically. And you have to have a means of taking advantage of that (like Double/Triple attack, or a second weapon).
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2008-12-27, 06:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [4e] Standard Action = Minor+Move Action but Minor+Move Action =I Standard Action
Because multiple standard actions gets unbalanced real fast. Why do you think extra actions are the one thing 3.X spellcasters wanted? They're still powerful in 4E.
It also discourages the awful, stupid, uninteresting "stand still and lay down the smack" style of combat that ruled 3.X.
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2008-12-27, 06:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [4e] Standard Action = Minor+Move Action but Minor+Move Action =I Standard Action
You can substitute a standard action for a move action or a minor action, but that doesn't really answer your question. You can't substitute your move action and minor action because that would be wonky and overpowered.
Originally Posted by The Giant
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2008-12-27, 06:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [4e] Standard Action = Minor+Move Action but Minor+Move Action =I Standard Action
For instance, you could charge (move + basic attack), then use a melee attack power. Rather than move and then use a melee attack power.
Yep, that got unbalanced real fast.
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2008-12-27, 06:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [4e] Standard Action = Minor+Move Action but Minor+Move Action =I Standard Action
Because static damage bonuses get silly when factoring in multiple attacks.
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2008-12-27, 06:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [4e] Standard Action = Minor+Move Action but Minor+Move Action =I Standard Action
It's a basic principle in 4e: you can substitute "lesser" actions, never "higher". If you want two standard actions, that's what action points are for.
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2008-12-27, 06:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [4e] Standard Action = Minor+Move Action but Minor+Move Action =I Standard Action
It's not exactly z=y+x, it's z>y+x.
You can trade more for less but not less for more. Similarly, you can expend the effort of moving and doing something simple in place of doing something like swinging a sword, but you can't swing a sword with the same effort of doing something simple and moving.Sig'd
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2008-12-27, 06:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-12-27, 07:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-12-27, 11:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-12-27, 11:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-12-27, 11:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-12-27, 01:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [4e] Standard Action = Minor+Move Action but Minor+Move Action =I Standard Action
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2008-12-28, 10:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [4e] Standard Action = Minor+Move Action but Minor+Move Action =I Standard Action
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2008-12-29, 09:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [4e] Standard Action = Minor+Move Action but Minor+Move Action =I Standard Action