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2009-01-11, 12:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Power Attack requires STR 13 (3.5)
Power Attack
Feat Prerequisites: STR 13.
My Cleric have
STR:12
Belt of STR +2 -> giving a total STR14.
Can my Cleric choose and use Power Attack?
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2009-01-11, 12:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Power Attack requires STR 13 (3.5)
Yes.
- Giacomo
PS: The moment the cleric looses the belt or the magic of the belt is dispelled/suppressed, he cannot use the feat power attack any longer (until the belt is recovered/become active again).
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2009-01-11, 12:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Power Attack requires STR 13 (3.5)
The FAQ seconds this concept, if somene cares to look it up and cite it. I'd volunteer, but yea...websense > me.
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2009-01-11, 12:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Power Attack requires STR 13 (3.5)
Depends on the GM. Using temporary or otherwise non-inherent effects to qualify for feats and prestige classes is always dodgy.
If your DM approves (I wouldn't) he should strip you of the ability to use the feat, as well as any feats or prestige classes that depends on it, if your STR drops below 15 (such as if your belt gets stolen, destroyed, disjuncted, or if you end up in an antimagic field or the target of a dispel magic).
That said, I don't think there is anything in the RAW as such that prevents it, just that the bookkeeping involved is more hassle than it's worth.
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2009-01-11, 12:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Power Attack requires STR 13 (3.5)
An interesting question is why a partial-BAB class with subpar strength would want to use PA to begin with...
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2009-01-11, 12:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Power Attack requires STR 13 (3.5)
In my campaign, I ended up simplifying this to only check at feat selection, but to also require it to be a permanent bonus. The Barbarian decided to go on a personal quest to find a way to permanently switch her strength and charisma to get Epic Leadership, and then permanently switch them back afterwards to get her combat ability back.
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2009-01-11, 12:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Power Attack requires STR 13 (3.5)
Short answer: yes.
Slightly longer:
Originally Posted by SRD
And yes, like Giacomo said, losing the belt or having it suppressed, or having your STR dropped below 13 via a ray of enfeeblement or some such would mean you cannot use Power Attack.
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2009-01-11, 01:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Power Attack requires STR 13 (3.5)
I've had this crop up a lot with druid PCs. There are often cases where a druid will qualify for a feat in one wild shape form, but not another.
Since a high-enough level druid can stay wildshaped 24/7, it's not really an issue, but it does raise the question of exactly how long it takes to level. I think 1e and 2e had specific rules on it, but 3.5 leaves it up to the DM.
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2009-01-11, 01:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Power Attack requires STR 13 (3.5)
It gets even fuzzier with something like Bear Warrior. While Wild Shape is hours, easily a good portion of your training day while "leveling up", Bear Warrior is about a minute tops, give or take 12 seconds or so. Is it really possible to learn how to Knockback (RoStone) while you are a big angry bear? RAWR!
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2009-01-11, 01:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Power Attack requires STR 13 (3.5)
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2009-01-11, 02:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-01-11, 03:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Power Attack requires STR 13 (3.5)
I am a bit surpriced by the fact that most people are allowing me this.
Lets say a Wizard have a INT:20 (+5).
He gets 7 skillpoints every level-up (2 + INT-modifier).
With a periaph of WIS+6, will he get 10 skillpoints every level-up?
And what happens if he loses his Periaph?
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2009-01-11, 03:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-01-11, 03:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Power Attack requires STR 13 (3.5)
I meant Headband of INT+6.
Where does it say that skill points don't allow non-permanent bonuses to count?
Thanks.Last edited by drevil; 2009-01-11 at 03:48 PM.
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2009-01-11, 03:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Power Attack requires STR 13 (3.5)
I'm pretty sure it's explicitly allowed to qualify for feats with items, though I couldn't tell you where that's laid out. Complete Warrior, perhaps?
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2009-01-11, 03:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Power Attack requires STR 13 (3.5)
Some of you are saying that when choosing and using Power Attack, I can depend on magical items.
Do you have some referance?
The DM find that somewhat hard to believe.
{Scrubbed}Last edited by Roland St. Jude; 2009-01-11 at 06:17 PM.
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2009-01-11, 04:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Power Attack requires STR 13 (3.5)
Uh, the description of the headband of intellect?
Originally Posted by SRD
Originally Posted by SRDLast edited by RTGoodman; 2009-01-11 at 04:06 PM.
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2009-01-11, 04:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-01-11, 04:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-01-11, 05:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-01-11, 06:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-01-12, 10:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Power Attack requires STR 13 (3.5)
Yes.
In one game I played a lycanthrope who only qualified for various feats while in hybrid or animal form. When in his human form, he was ridiculously weak. In addition, the DM let me know beforehand that most townsfolk are very superstitious, and would freak out if I changed in front of them. Lead to some very interesting roleplaying and encounters.
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2009-01-12, 12:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Power Attack requires STR 13 (3.5)
We just houseruled it that you had to have the natural statistic (or whatever other prerequisites there are) but that you wouldn't lose use of the feat if you lost the prerequisite.
Example: You have a STR 14, and you get Power Attack. You are hit by Ray of Enfeeblement. Your STR drops below 13. You can still Power Attack. But you had to have STR 13 minimum to get that feat in the first place - as in your natural, not affected by anything, what it says in the little box next to STR on your character sheet, statistic.
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2009-01-12, 01:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-01-12, 01:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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