[Any] Fictional universe crossover campaigns. Any ideas?

[Agrippa]

Wow. Why did no one ever TELL me there was a system that could quickly and easily be made to construct an adventure where Batman and Captain Planet fight an army of Daleks led by Darth Vader!?

This quote and many other things on this site, including the crossover five man band thread made me think of starting, if not running, a crossover campaign. I'm not talking about some alternate universe cop-out like Kingdom Hearts. No I mean fiction universe hopping madness, like FF VII's Sephiroth being drawn into the Warhammer 40k setting and Torchwood and the Doctor teaming up with the BPRD and Hellboy to fight the Ogdru Jahad and a Dalek attack on Earth.

Now if anyone seems interested in this idea please say so and give me some suggestions on which universes to use. I'd like to see a multi-universe crossover campaign or two on these forums some day. So my question is, what universes would you use, what rule set and how many parties would there be? Yes, I would like to see both heroic and villainous parties. Also original characters would be allowed within reason.

Does this sound interesting or am I just crazy?

[elliott20]

Sephiroth in WH40K?

Sephiroth: "Sheesh, and I thought *I* had emotional issues"

[An Enemy Spy]

Mario, Lord of the Rings and Halo. I have done it. It was funny.

[Hat-Trick]

Very interesting.

Dnd Vs. Star Wars. The epic battle of fantasy and sci-fi.
Of course DC/Marvel are fun, too.
Maybe see what's better, Digimon or pokemon.

... Yeah, you said any universes, right? ... Just, it's kind of a large category.

[Agrippa]

Sephiroth in WH40K?

Sephiroth: "Sheesh, and I thought *I* had emotional issues"

Either that or old Sephiroth would suffer a nervous breakdown as soon as he realizes how insignificant he really is in this universe. Besides, he's no more powerful than a chapter librarian. If he doesn't fit right in with Chaos or infiltrate the Officio Assassinorum. The last one's a bit of a stretch.

[thegurullamen]

Buh-da-da-da!

Pantheistic Solipsism

Complete with examples! And a self-propelling propeller! And seats!

[Agrippa]

Very interesting.

Dnd Vs. Star Wars. The epic battle of fantasy and sci-fi.
Of course DC/Marvel are fun, too.
Maybe see what's better, Digimon or pokemon.

... Yeah, you said any universes, right? ... Just, it's kind of a large category.

I guess. I was thinking more about what and how many universes we'd like in one campaign. With the possiblity of playing the villains as well. An example, "Sephiroth meet the Kurgan, Kurgan meet Sephiroth. Sephiroth and Kurgan meet Jonathan Teatime, Jonathan Teatime meet Sephiroth and the Kurgan. Sepiroth, Kurgan and Jonathan Teatime meet the Joker, Joker meet Sepiroth, the Kurgan and Jonathan Teatime. Now shake hands and no stabbing each other. Just sit down and have a little chat with each other and talk things over. You guy's will get along great."

Does anyone feel like vomiting yet?

[JaxGaret]

Spelljammer 3e.

[chiasaur11]

I guess. I was thinking more about what and how many universes we'd like in one campaign. With the possiblity of playing the villains as well. An example, "Sephiroth meet the Kurgan, Kurgan meet Sephiroth. Sephiroth and Kurgan meet Jonathan Teatime, Jonathan Teatime meet Sephiroth and the Kurgan. Sepiroth, Kurgan and Jonathan Teatime meet the Joker, Joker meet Sepiroth, the Kurgan and Jonathan Teatime. Now shake hands and no stabbing each other. Just sit down and have a little chat with each other and talk things over. You guy's will get along great."

Does anyone feel like vomiting yet?

I give it 30 seconds before the Kurgan and Sephiroth are dead on the floor.

Less if we're talking movie Joker, more if he does the pencil trick, just because it doesn't remove the noggin.

[Frosty]

We need a rp game where Evangelion invaded Warhammer 40k, and it would MAKE SENSE!

[Agrippa]

I give it 30 seconds before the Kurgan and Sephiroth are dead on the floor.

Less if we're talking movie Joker, more if he does the pencil trick, just because it doesn't remove the noggin.

The Walkin' Dude and Rasputin wouldn't allow that. Am I getting just a wee bit too dark for you?

[Mando Knight]

Pantheistic Solipsism

See, if alternate universes could be proven to exist, then it is my personal canon that this system would hold true... and that the multiverse itself would be an infinitely expanding fractal with our universe as only one end of uncountable centillions.

[elliott20]

My problem with trying to cross universes is that people will always disagree on the relative powers of two individuals who come from different universes who have fundamentally different rules.

I mean really, say you throw Starwars character into the Naruto universe. Which one is better? the Force or Chakra? or are they really the same thing, and ninjas are just better at making their "force" tricks flashier and bigger? That's just two universe. Let's throw in say, Mario brothers for good measure. Bowser, awesome Chakra/Force user or just some dumb lizard who happens to breath flammable material?

Now, if you're just doing it for your own game, that's one thing because that all depends on your own interpretation. but trying to get people to agree on this kind of thing is just... insane.

[Frosty]

My problem with trying to cross universes is that people will always disagree on the relative powers of two individuals who come from different universes who have fundamentally different rules.

I mean really, say you throw Starwars character into the Naruto universe. Which one is better? the Force or Chakra? or are they really the same thing, and ninjas are just better at making their "force" tricks flashier and bigger? That's just two universe. Let's throw in say, Mario brothers for good measure. Bowser, awesome Chakra/Force user or just some dumb lizard who happens to breath flammable material?

Now, if you're just doing it for your own game, that's one thing because that all depends on your own interpretation. but trying to get people to agree on this kind of thing is just... insane.

See: VS threads in Media Discussion such as The Jedi Knights v.s The WitchKing

[newbDM]

I'm making/stating Candy Land for 3.5. It's in my sig.

Queen Frostine, Princess Lolly, and Lord Licorice are archomentals with domains.

[Dairun Cates]

Well, seeing as this is half the reason people would play RIFTS, it's not the craziest idea.

Amusingly enough, every campaign I've ever run has been retconned into one continuity by now. It all started with a Pokemon campaign that turned into a multi-dimensional time-travelling journey out of desperation. The players basically tried to keep a dark elder god from resurrecting while becoming masters of the Monster League. Truly a strange campaign.

Obviously though, I couldn't resist some jabs at earlier campaigns. Then, in the next campaign, the players dragged the character's from the Pet Monster campaign in. Seeing as this was a Disgaea-themed campaign, alternate netherworlds were also introduced.

In other words, a lot of weird crap happens including cannon characters being aware of the fact that they exist in an infinite dimensional nexus. I've even taken the initiative to have minor plot points in recent campaigns filled in minor plot holes in other campaigns.

I guess my point is "nothing is too wacky if your players will go along with it".

[lisiecki]

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Does this sound interesting or am I just crazy?[/QUOTE]

go for it
Although i don't see what the difference between your idea and kingdom hearts is.
But Im all for insane, insane games.

Here come the sound-armored whales of Armageddon! But there's no time! We have to reverse the polarity of the Wold-Newton Engines before the sentient handshakes cross the grape-flavored breach in the barrier built of solid time!

[Agrippa]

My problem with trying to cross universes is that people will always disagree on the relative powers of two individuals who come from different universes who have fundamentally different rules.

I mean really, say you throw Starwars character into the Naruto universe. Which one is better? the Force or Chakra? or are they really the same thing, and ninjas are just better at making their "force" tricks flashier and bigger? That's just two universe. Let's throw in say, Mario brothers for good measure. Bowser, awesome Chakra/Force user or just some dumb lizard who happens to breath flammable material?

They're all psykers. It's that simple. All Jedi and Sith, all Naruto-verse ninja, spellcasters in general, invokers (such as warlocks and dragonfire adepts), benders including the Avatar and anyone who employs supernatural maneuvers would count as psykers. As such the Ordo Hereticus would have them burned at the stake for witchcraft if at all possible. Now if the Emperor had anything to say about this only the truly wicked among them would suffer. He would sanction the rest.

[Agrippa]

go for it
Although i don't see what the difference between your idea and kingdom hearts is.

It wouldn't be alternate universe. If I'm going to have Sephiroth its going to be the same Jenova injected genetically altered psychopathic pretty boy freak from Final Fantasy VII. Personality wise I like to think of him as an unholy mixture of Light Yagami, Jonathan Teatime, Norman Bates, Davros and Gollum and his speach patterns vary from Light to Gollum at random. Squeeing fangirls be damned.

[lisiecki]

It wouldn't be alternate universe. If I'm going to have Sephiroth its going to be the same Jenova injected genetically altered psychopathic pretty boy freak from Final Fantasy VII. Personality wise I like to think of him as an unholy mixture of Light Yagami, Jonathan Teatime, Norman Bates, Davros and Gollum and his speach patterns vary from Light to Gollum at random. Squeeing fangirls be damned.

Hmm never actually played FFVII, or any FF that isn't 6.
So basically what your saying is some type of setting where the two settings "bump in to one another" and don't have a shared past

[elliott20]

learn from comic books, dude! alternate dimensions happen like, all the friggin' time!

[Agrippa]

Hmm never actually played FFVII, or any FF that isn't 6.
So basically what your saying is some type of setting where the two settings "bump in to one another" and don't have a shared past

Basically, maybe a few connections. I mean, who really knows where Jenova came from. Perhaps it was spawned by the Ogdru Jahad or created in the recent past and lauched back in time by a certain depraved scientest from his own DNA.

[lisiecki]

Basically, maybe a few connections. I mean, who really knows where Jenova came from. Perhaps it was spawned by the Ogdru Jahad or created in the recent past and lauched back in time by a certain depraved scientest from his own DNA.

Ya, I got the first sentence.
Honestly, I don't understand FF games

[Nerd-o-rama]

I love crossovers. My current favorite video game series? Crossovers. My favorite discussion threads? Crossovers. The only tolerable fanfics I've read? Crossovers, and one or two Peggy Sues. And that one Code Geass one.

My favorite system for crossovers? Mutants and Masterminds 2e. Were this game to materialize, I'd gladly drop my current applications and play in it. And incidentally, Power Level caps take care of balancing for you.

Ya, I got the first sentence.
Honestly, I don't understand FF games

The third and forth sentences were referencing things FFVII would be crossed over with. I don't know the first one, but the latter is Doctor Who.

[lisiecki]

The third and forth sentences were referencing things FFVII would be crossed over with. I don't know the first one, but the latter is Doctor Who.

Oh From the little ive heard of FFVII
I though that really was part of the story to the game

Although isnt the whole point of kingdom hearts that the FF "Universe" and the Disney universe share a history?

Is your saying "its not like kingdom hearts" just because you dont like kingdom hearts?

[Nerd-o-rama]

Jenova is from FFVII. In-game, it was an ancient, evil alien responsible for wiping out the previous civilization of the setting. "Her" body was unearthed and studied by the evil Shinra megacorporation and used to genetically engineer super-soldiers, including the guano-insane Big Bad, Sephiroth. There's more, but that's the canon backstory.

Agrippa was suggesting tying in said backstory to other series, by giving a more specific origin to Jenova that just "the Calamity from the Sky" in legends.

And I think Agrippa's saying that Kingdom Hearts changed character personalities and histories - specifically, those of FF characters and especially FFVII characters - a lot more than he would.

[Agrippa]

The first crossover idea was from Hellboy. I was also thinking using a few crossover five man bands from this site, like the Ravagers A.K.A. the Agents of Chaos. I might even give them both Hellboy's Rasputin and Andre Linoge for good measure.

[Nerd-o-rama]

Hey, as long as the Tomokazu Seki Brigade makes it in...

[Agrippa]

Hey, as long as the Tomokazu Seki Brigade makes it in...

Sure, why not.

[Drascin]

I have seriously thought of doing a campaign with universe-hopping and reality clashes, myself, and made a bit of a sketch. Very Spelljammer or Kingdom Hearts-like, in that there would be ships that allow people to cross worlds, but also in some points realities would overlap by themelves and all, withh a lot of chaos, which is what the PCs would be supposed to solve.

But the people I play with in tabletop... would not get half the stuff I'd like to get into the crossover, so I never bothered to detail it further.

Also, I second what Nerdo said - M&M is made for stuff like this. If anyone is doing a campaign like this, please drop me a note!