Results 1 to 30 of 39
Thread: Troll like prestige class. PEACH
-
2006-07-06, 03:49 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2006
- Location
- Lima-Perú
- Gender
Troll like prestige class. PEACH
Troll Blooded
HD d10
Requirements
To qualify to become a Troll Blooded, a character must fulfill all the following criteria.
Alignmet
Any non lawfull
Race
any humanoid
Skills
Survival 8 ranks
Feats
Alertness, Iron Will, Track.
Base Attack Bonus
+7.
Special
To become a Troll Blooded a character must find a Troll Blooded who is willing to teach him a secret ritual.
On the ritual the character must defeat a troll by himself and drink his blood.
-------------------------------
Class skills
2 + Int modifier.
Class skills: Jump, Intimidate, Climb, Swim, listen, spot, survival.
BA F R W
1st +0 +2 +0 +0 fast healing +1 Claws and bite
2nd +1 +3 +0 +0 Ability boost (Con +2), Natural armor increase (+1),
3rd +2 +3 +1 +1 Fast healing +2 Low light vision
4th +3 +4 +1 +1 Ability boost (Con +2), natural armor increase (+2)
5th +3 +4 +1 +1 Fast Healing +3, Dark vision
6th +4 +5 +2 +2 Ability boost (Str +2), Natural armor increase (+3)
7th +5 +5 +2 +2 Fast Healing +4 Scent
8th +6 +6 +2 +2 Ability boost (Str +2), Natural armor increase (+4)
9th +6 +6 +3 +3 Rend (Dex +2)
10th +7 +7 +3 +3 +2 STR +2 CON, Fast Healing +5, Giant Type, Growth
Fast Healing(ex)
A creature with fast healing has the extraordinary ability to regain hit points at an exceptional rate. Except for what is noted here, fast healing is like natural healing.
At the beginning of each of the creature’s turns, it heals a certain number of hit points (defined in its description).
Unlike regeneration, fast healing does not allow a creature to regrow or reattach lost body parts. Unless otherwise stated, it does not allow lost body parts to be reattached.
A creature that has taken both nonlethal and lethal damage heals the nonlethal damage first.
Fast healing does not restore hit points lost from starvation, thirst, or suffocation.
Fast healing does not increase the number of hit points regained when a creature polymorphs.
Rend (Ex)
If a Troll Blooded hits with both claw attacks, it latches onto the opponent’s body and tears the flesh. This attack automatically deals an additional 2d6+(str modifier) points of damage.
Claws and Bite (Ex)
At 1nd level, a Troll Blooded gains claw and bite attacks if he does not already have them.
Size Bite Damage Claw Damage
Small 1d4 1d3
Medium 1d6 1d4
Large 1d8 1d6
Dark vision(Ex)
At 5th level a Troll Blooded gains 60ft dark vision, if the creature already have dark vision it increases +30ft.
Low light vision(Ex)
At 3th level a Troll Blooded gains 90ft Low light vision.
Giant Type
A 10th level Troll Blooded changes his type to Giant.
Growth
A 10th level Troll Blooded increases his size category to the next larger one gains a +2 size bonus to Strength, a -2 size penalty to Dexterity (to a minimum of 1), and a -1 penalty on attack rolls and AC due to his increased size.
-
2006-07-06, 03:52 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Oct 2005
Re: Troll like prestige class. PEACH
You can't have DR/Acid, acid ignores DR anyway. You need to list the effects of the Regeneration and Dazing Blow. It also needs a class skill list and a name.
Thanks to Veera for the avatar.
I keep my stories in a blog. You should read them.
5E Sorcerous Origin: Arcanist
-
2006-07-06, 03:56 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2006
- Location
- Lima-Perú
- Gender
Re: Troll like prestige class. PEACH
It's only dr/ adamantine, like the wartroll. I'll fix it.
About the Skills maybe spot and listen and whatelse?
About the name, I'm open to suggestions.
-
2006-07-06, 04:53 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Apr 2006
- Location
- Metro Manila, Philippines
- Gender
Re: Troll like prestige class. PEACH
Skills: Jump, Intimidate, Climb, Swim
"You can never have enough dakka."
-
2006-07-06, 04:55 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2006
- Location
- Nowhere
- Gender
Re: Troll like prestige class. PEACH
One word: BROKEN
٩๏̯͡๏)۶
New found land. It's like Untitled Document, for places - Flickerdart
Avatar by Domochevsky
-
2006-07-06, 05:09 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Dec 2005
Re: Troll like prestige class. PEACH
Originally Posted by Ghostly Gezina van den Vechte
-
2006-07-06, 05:27 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Apr 2006
- Location
Re: Troll like prestige class. PEACH
If, by +9 regeneration, you mean that they regeneate 9 HP per round, I'd have t agree. Especially if the only way to kill them is to attack them with fire or disintegration spells, since they're now immune to acid. Even with a lower regeneration, though, the constant DR, massive ability score boosts, and massive natural armor score are still way too much when combined.
Needs a full overhaul, in other words.
-
2006-07-06, 05:49 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Apr 2006
- Location
- Metro Manila, Philippines
- Gender
Re: Troll like prestige class. PEACH
I'd suggest changing Regen to Fast Healing, and then only up to a certain percentage of HP or only at a maximum of 5 HP per round. DR should be weakened a bit, as well, probably down to half the current rate.
How much damage do the claws and bite deal?"You can never have enough dakka."
-
2006-07-06, 06:09 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jan 2005
- Location
- Singapore
- Gender
Re: Troll like prestige class. PEACH
Actually, as a 10 level prestige class, the abilities are about right. A troll's racial HD+LA=6+5=11.
President of the Society for Hobgoblin Equality in Level Adjustment(SHELA)
Glowing Kitty from Lilly
Wren Worgatar by Mephibosheth
The Living Bullet!
Unusual Inner Animal Avatar from Quincunx.
Whenever you mention Pun-pun*SQUELCH!*, Ao kills another Kobold.
Everytime someone says "Pazuzu" twice, Ao erases them on the next "Pa". Then he undeletes them so he can wipeinfo them from the multiverse.
Everytime you kill a catgirl, I get more company.
-
2006-07-06, 06:21 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Apr 2006
- Location
- Metro Manila, Philippines
- Gender
Re: Troll like prestige class. PEACH
What worries me is how this would interact with the standard PC races... or with something that has LA in its own right.
Furthermore, the Troll does not have HD all the way, what with its LA of 6. This one has 10d8 HP worth, plus whatever Con mod he's packing (plus those from this PrC).
It may not be outright broken, but it's pushing it, IMO."You can never have enough dakka."
-
2006-07-06, 06:47 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Apr 2006
- Location
Re: Troll like prestige class. PEACH
Trolls are also possible to kill with acid, have a regeneration of 5, and no damage reduction.
-
2006-07-06, 06:55 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Aug 2005
- Location
- Ēast Seaxna rīc
- Gender
Re: Troll like prestige class. PEACH
Regeneration should never be allowed for player races. I've been resisting playing a Curst from Monsters of Faerun for ages just because its so overpowered. Either your characters can't die, or you get very bored of fighting fire elementals again and again.
"that nighted, penguin-fringed abyss" - At The Mountains of Madness, H.P. Lovecraft
When a man decides another's future behind his back, it is a conspiracy. When a god does it, it's destiny.
-
2006-07-06, 12:12 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2006
- Location
- Lima-Perú
- Gender
Re: Troll like prestige class. PEACH
One word: BROKEN
About 9 regeneration, and DR
The Wartroll is 12hd and +6 LA, for a total of 18 ECL, it has +9 Regeneration, 5DR/ Adamantine, and 20 SR, Natural armor. And only acid deals lethal damage.
The normal troll has +12con, +12 str, and +4 dex.
--------------
Claw and bite damage could be like the dragon diciple 1d4 claw and 1d6 bite for medium size.
In fact I based this class on the dragon disciple, it has little more things but it doesn't have spells slots and only gets one good save.
---------
How about HD 6, for les hp?????
Thanks for your advice.
-
2006-07-06, 12:22 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2005
- Gender
Re: Troll like prestige class. PEACH
The problem, really, is the regeneration. A PC could just dip 1 level into this class, and POOF! He's effectively immune to anything that doesn't deal acid or fire damage...and magic can give resistance/immunity.
I'd really suggest changing it to Fast Healing...maybe at 10th level, convert to Regeneration, make their size and type Large Giant...they literally become a troll.NOW COMPLETE: Let's Play Starcraft II Trilogy:
Hell, It's About Time: Wings of Liberty
Does This Mutation Make Me Look Fat: Heart of the Swarm
My Life For Aiur? I Barely Know 'Er: Legacy of the Void
-
2006-07-06, 12:46 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2006
- Location
- Lima-Perú
- Gender
Re: Troll like prestige class. PEACH
Ok fast healing instead of regeneration at first levels.
I don't know about to incrise the size category. Maybe.
Is it near to be balanced????
-
2006-07-06, 12:58 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2006
- Location
- Nowhere
- Gender
Re: Troll like prestige class. PEACH
I would say fast healing all the way, Regeneration is not something you want you players to have because you'll have to decide: no chance of killing which means no threat or negating regeneration which means the player has lost his biggest asset, so I would suggest changing it to fast healing all the way and I think it's still overpowered, so maybe dropping the DR and halfing the natural armor.
٩๏̯͡๏)۶
New found land. It's like Untitled Document, for places - Flickerdart
Avatar by Domochevsky
-
2006-07-06, 01:11 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2006
- Location
- Lima-Perú
- Gender
Re: Troll like prestige class. PEACH
But the bararian gets DR 5/- at 19th level.
And I think Regeneration is the Trollish thing of the class.
Now it has HD6 that's less hit points, and you can always be defeated by non lethal damage.
The dragon disciple has HD12 and natural armor +4 at 10th level.
The Troll ECL is 12 and gets Regeneration +5, and this class on level 13 (7 of any class + 5 of this one) gets only Regeneration +3.
-
2006-07-06, 01:14 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2006
- Location
- Nowhere
- Gender
Re: Troll like prestige class. PEACH
Originally Posted by Nocte٩๏̯͡๏)۶
New found land. It's like Untitled Document, for places - Flickerdart
Avatar by Domochevsky
-
2006-07-06, 01:16 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2006
- Location
- Lima-Perú
- Gender
Re: Troll like prestige class. PEACH
That's why this has HD6, or you think it may be HD4????
-
2006-07-06, 01:21 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2006
- Location
- Nowhere
- Gender
Re: Troll like prestige class. PEACH
Originally Posted by Nocte٩๏̯͡๏)۶
New found land. It's like Untitled Document, for places - Flickerdart
Avatar by Domochevsky
-
2006-07-06, 01:25 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2006
- Location
- Lima-Perú
- Gender
Re: Troll like prestige class. PEACH
Ok.
HD4, regeneration only on level 10. Natural armor +4 only, and no DR.
What do you think???
-
2006-07-06, 05:17 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jul 2006
- Location
- Georgia
- Gender
Re: Troll like prestige class. PEACH
Has everyone overlooked the fact that the Dragon Disciple (which he used to model this after) is based on a HALF dragon, whereas the idea of this one is to become a FULL troll?
Half-Troll (from Fiend Folio) is what you need to base it off of.
+6 Str, +2 Dex, +6 Con
claw/bite @ 1d4/1d6 for medium
rend
fast heal 5
+4 natural armor
If you re-do this build based of the "half" template rather than a base monster class, it'll be more inline with the Dragon Disciple PrC. You can keep your BAB and Saves as they are, but up his HD. Troll's are tank characters, and as such, why the heck do they only get d4 hitdice?
-
2006-07-06, 05:24 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2006
- Location
- Lima-Perú
- Gender
Re: Troll like prestige class. PEACH
Ok Ill quit the regeneration, and make it HD10.
What's the level adjustment for the half-troll???
Now I think is undepowered compared with the Dragon Diciple.
Because the dragon diciple gains immunity to sleep and paralysis effects, and immunity to the energy type used by his breath weapon.
-
2006-07-06, 05:30 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jul 2006
- Location
- Georgia
- Gender
Re: Troll like prestige class. PEACH
Originally Posted by Nocte
If you add the fact that the DD is based off 1/2 dragon (+3) and gets bonus spells, that about is even with a +4 IMO.
-
2006-07-06, 05:41 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2006
- Location
- Lima-Perú
- Gender
Re: Troll like prestige class. PEACH
Don't you think is underpowered?
The dragon diciple gets HD12
Spells per day
Fly
Breath Weapon
+8 Str +2 con +2 int +2 cha
low-light vision, 60-foot darkvision, immunity to sleep and paralysis effects, and immunity to the energy type used by his breath weapon.
Blind sense.
-
2006-07-06, 06:10 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Mar 2006
- Location
Re: Troll like prestige class. PEACH
I think the sticking point was regeneration. It makes it almost impossible to kill the PC, which leads to the PC doing stupid things because he's inheriently almost immortal.
Alrighty, things you need to define: what's the claw and bite damage, how does fast healing work (only to half hitpoints, I believe), range of the darkvision, mechanics and damage of Rend, etc.
The difference between this and Dragon Disciple is that Dragon Disciple is really a bad class for casters - it offers no spellcasting progression, but takes a caster down the melee progression. In essence, you're giving up a couple of 'useless' levels to become powerful. This one stacks straight onto a level 7 fighter and makes him better at what he's already doing.
-
2006-07-06, 06:48 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2006
- Location
- Lima-Perú
- Gender
Re: Troll like prestige class. PEACH
Done.
What can be the name?
Troll Diciple, no I don't think so.
And about the requirements. How about defeat a troll by yourself as one of them?
-
2006-07-06, 06:50 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jul 2006
- Location
- Georgia
- Gender
Re: Troll like prestige class. PEACH
So, I think his final abilities would be (for a medium):
+6 str, +2 dex, +6 con
+4 natural armor
fast healing 5
2 claw (primary) for 1d4 + str
1 bite (secondary) for 1d6 + .5*str
rend (if hit with 2 claws) 2d4 + 1.5*str
darkvision 60'
scent
giantsubtypetype
I suggest 2/3 BAB progression, good fortitute saves, d10 HD, and 2 skills pts per level.
For prereq's, I'd go with maybe power attack or cleave, knowledge (nature), and maybe a +5 bab (as a dragon disciple can be accessed as a PrC after level 5.)
note: this makes the Troll 'Disciple' more fitting for rangers, druids, and barbarians rather than tank fighters in full plate
-
2006-07-06, 07:45 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2005
- Gender
Re: Troll like prestige class. PEACH
Giant is a type, not a subtype. But that seems balanced for a 10-level PrC.
NOW COMPLETE: Let's Play Starcraft II Trilogy:
Hell, It's About Time: Wings of Liberty
Does This Mutation Make Me Look Fat: Heart of the Swarm
My Life For Aiur? I Barely Know 'Er: Legacy of the Void
-
2006-07-07, 02:39 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2006
- Location
- Lima-Perú
- Gender
Re: Troll like prestige class. PEACH
What would be the benefits of been giant type?
I think it must have a special requirement maybe:
To Defeat a Troll
or
To Live some amount of time with Trolls
or
Find some Trollish item
I don´t know something that justifies that a humanoid becomes troll like.
Any Names?