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    Default I need a little build help on a ranger soulknife.

    I'm trying to build a lvl 5 Character, probably 2 non-casting ranger and 3 soulknife(might go 3 ranger 2 soulknife though).
    The main thing I need is a race that has +Str and +Dex and not -Con.

    Also, general advice on the build.

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    The campaign will probably run us into a little of everything, and a one-trick pony will probably be dead by the end of the first session.

    My DM runs high power stuff, with a guaranteed 18 and the lowest stats usually 12 or 13 before racial stats. So I don't really need to worry much about one or two stats being horrible.
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    I can use any book I want to, but I'm not really interested in min-maxed Uber-powered stuff. (Aka, only mildly broken and lower please. )

    Thanks!
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    Default Re: I need a little build help on a ranger soulknife.

    Soul knife is not good unless you're going into Soulbow. There is a feat which gives Psychic Warriors what is essentially the Soulknife's laundry list of class features.
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    Default Re: I need a little build help on a ranger soulknife.

    Quote Originally Posted by Flickerdart View Post
    Soul knife is not good unless you're going into Soulbow. There is a feat which gives Psychic Warriors what is essentially the Soulknife's laundry list of class features.
    No, he'll be 2 weapon ranger, sorry. I'm mainly using soulknife for the generated weapons. is there another class I could use for that? I would like to be able to generate a bastard sword.
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    Default Re: I need a little build help on a ranger soulknife.

    Soulbow is one of about 3 things in CompPsi that doesn't suck. Look into it.

    Soulknife itself is terrible, and multiclassing it makes it weaker, though, so you might want to reconsider completely. What flavor are you looking for? Theres probably an easier way to get it.

    As for the race, with those restrictions you'll probably have an LA, unfortunately. Elf variants can get you one or the other, but not both bonuses.

    Edit:Ninja'd. PsiWar does get the ability to generate a weapon with a specific power. BTW, how do you plan to TWF with a Bastard Sword? Unarmed Strike or Armor Spikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sstoopidtallkid View Post

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    BTW, how do you plan to TWF with a Bastard Sword?
    Exotic weapon proficiency (bastard sword) would work for generated weapons, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blade 7 View Post
    Exotic weapon proficiency (bastard sword) would work for generated weapons, right?
    Yes, but it's a waste of a feat. Short Swords deal 2 less damage on average, but base damage is secondary to weapon enhancements/PA/SA/spell channeling. If the feat you're spending is worth the same as Weapon Specialization, there's a problem.
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    Default Re: I need a little build help on a ranger soulknife.

    Unless I'm missing something, all PsiWar can do is manifest a 1 round weapon, at the expense of a power point.

    What I need is something like the Mindblade, free and sticks around as long as I want (or sundered.)
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    Default Re: I need a little build help on a ranger soulknife.

    You're misreading it. The weapons in question sticks around for 1 min/level. Plus, you can take the Minds Eye Enhancement from Wizards, and it gets much better, faster than the soul knife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeklorIlavator View Post
    You're misreading it. The weapons in question sticks around for 1 min/level. Plus, you can take the Minds Eye Enhancement from Wizards, and it gets much better, faster than the soul knife.
    Where exactly do you mean, Wizards?
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    Default Re: I need a little build help on a ranger soulknife.

    Wizards.com, in the dnd archive section, in the Minds eye section. It's one of the expanded classes articles. Of course, right now Wizards seems to be down...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flickerdart View Post
    Soul knife is not good unless you're going into Soulbow. There is a feat which gives Psychic Warriors what is essentially the Soulknife's laundry list of class features.
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    Soulbow is one of about 3 things in CompPsi that doesn't suck. Look into it.
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    Default Re: I need a little build help on a ranger soulknife.

    I checked Wizards, and found the Enhancement.

    Is there anything that can extend the length of summons? It still seems really short to me.
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    Default Re: I need a little build help on a ranger soulknife.

    The feat extended summoning can do that. There's also the PRC Thaumaturgist from the DMG (don't ask me what its power level is though).
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    Default Re: I need a little build help on a ranger soulknife.

    I'm no psionic Expert, but it's always been my impression that the Soulknife is a sucky class. How would you go about building a Soulbow. you need at least 2 levels of Soulknife for the Throw Mind Blade thing, and at least 5 levels since there's the 8 ranks of Autohypnosis required. What are good choices for the remaining 3 levels?
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    Default Re: I need a little build help on a ranger soulknife.

    I said it before but it bears repeating. If you want to play a class that can summon a magical weapon ad infinitum that does decent damage, go with a glaive-lock.
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    Default Re: I need a little build help on a ranger soulknife.

    Quote Originally Posted by Graymayre View Post
    The feat extended summoning can do that. There's also the PRC Thaumaturgist from the DMG (don't ask me what its power level is though).
    Where's that feat from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RebelRogue View Post
    I'm no psionic Expert, but it's always been my impression that the Soulknife is a sucky class. How would you go about building a Soulbow. you need at least 2 levels of Soulknife for the Throw Mind Blade thing, and at least 5 levels since there's the 8 ranks of Autohypnosis required. What are good choices for the remaining 3 levels?
    Psychic Warrior or Factotum will both get Autohypnosis as class skills and are awesome classes in their own right.

    If you really want to summon weapons, the Pyrokineticist PrC allows you to manifest a whip of fire that is a Touch Attack, meaning it will almost always hit, and you can take an alternate version of the PrC to get different elemental damage on it.It's not a very powerful class either, but I like it for the flavour.
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