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Thread: Girl Genius V: Madre de Diodes!
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2009-06-05, 01:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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We also know from Othar's Twitter that Voltaire has built the scribing engine of Paris' Autonomous Library. And quite earlier in the comic, the inventor of the calming pie thought that his recipe surpassed Brillat-Savarin's creations.
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2009-06-05, 11:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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No. Gil's assessment of her is accurate. There is no conspiracy theory involving just how about how her every action is some underhanded stratagem. She just wastes all her cunning on "get-rich-quick" styled schemes or more appropriately "get-important-quick" schemes.
It's important to note what Gil *is* saying, which is that she's dumber than he is (i.e. Gil is a genius compared to virtually everybody) and that she gets herself into trouble because she has really bad judgment. Fans simply need to separate the ability to make raw calculations (i.e. intelligence) from judgment or emotionally-charged decisions.
Smart people make really dumb decisions because of the latter reasons simply because they never stopped to think it through or cannot stop to think it through. Zola has just such a blind spot about being special or the heroine of her own fairy tale -- even if she isn't especially dimwitted.
What's more, she learned from her previous mistakes, but this largely took the form of her being incredibly ruthless. This is perhaps the "wrong" lesson to take away from her previous escapades, as it still made her take an incredible risk while deliberately setting out to make enemies.Last edited by LurkerInPlayground; 2009-06-05 at 11:21 PM.
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2009-06-08, 12:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Can anyone translate the French on that blueprint?
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2009-06-08, 01:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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I can. It's terrible French, though.
Here goes.
FIRST PANEL
Un Lapin Géant : A Giant Rabbit
Déguisement : Disguise [Note: They were trying to say "A giant rabbit disguise", but the actual grammar for that would be "un déguisement de lapin géant". The actual expression, though, is "un costume de lapin géant".]
Oreille : Ear
Dents : Teeth
Cravate d'arc : Bow tie [the actual French for bow tie is "noeud papillon".]
Fourrure [misspelled in the comic] : fur
Épaule : Shoulder
Mamelon : the male equivalent of a teat
Joint : Joint
Griffes : Claws
Peu vilain: "A little bit of villain" ? I have no idea what they mean. Perhaps they were referring to the potbelly? If so, then the word is "Embonpoint". Wierd.
Queue Pelucheuse (non montrée) : Furry tail (not shown)
Chat : Cat
Genou : Knee
Frapper du pied la chose : Hit, with the foot, the thing. [Yeah, I don't know what they mean by that.]
SECOND PANEL
Modèles idiots de costume de lapin: Stupid models of rabbit suit. [I think the correct French phrase here is "Modèles idiots d'un costume de lapin" (Stupid models of a rabbit suit), and not what's written in the comic. Sigh.]Or not.
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2009-06-08, 01:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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2009-06-08, 03:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Well, considering where the arrow is pointing, "Peu vilain" might be supposed to mean "naughty bits". I agree on the terrible french, though. (Mine isn't much better, but still, 9 years of french in school aren't easily forgotten.)
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2009-06-08, 04:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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I keep on forgetting that we are in a filler arc
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2009-06-08, 04:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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2009-06-08, 04:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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We have even more german in school. Our ancestors could never come up with a written language, since every second town has it's own words, phrases, grammar and pronounciation. And, of course, they can't possibly write them the same way as the others over there on the other side of the river.
So, the only solution was to just adopt german as the written language and forget about the entire thing.Resident Vancian Apologist
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2009-06-08, 06:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Terrible French.
"Un lapin géant déguisement" should be "Costume de lapin géant"
"cravate d'arc", as said, should be "noeud pap"
"Frappen (sic) du pied la chose" should be, well, I'm not sure what they were trying to say, but "piétinner la chose" would already be better.
"naughty bits", on the top of my head, I don't see a direct equivalent. Plenty of similar expressions ("intimate parts", "family jewels" and so on) but not "naughty bits". Still, "peu villain" is nonsensical. Translates to "not much villainous"...Hark! An avatar drawn by Kate Beaton!
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2009-06-08, 07:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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I know. I just looked at the where the arrow was pointing, got myself a list of all translations of both "peu" and "villain" and still took me five minutes to come up with something tha tmade sense. I could be wrong, though.
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2009-06-08, 10:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Enough with the French lessons! Focus on the important stuff! Like how adorable Zeetha looks in the last panel! That hanging forelock really does things for her...
Also, it appears Krosp has just gotten really, really large.
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2009-06-08, 04:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-06-08, 05:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Except that the last panel can (by squinting just a bit) show Agatha groping Zeetha. Let's hear it for unintentional fanservice!thnx to Starwoof for the fine avatar
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2009-06-09, 07:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Could 'peu vilian' be a nickname for genitalia, much like OotS Roy's 'trouser titan' reference?
I suddenly get an image of Mini-Me from Austin Powers now...
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2009-06-09, 08:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah, it's a naive, clumsy, approximatively literal translation of naughty bit. "Peu" in "un peu de" could translate to "bit" in "a bit of", "naughty" as in "naughty children" could translate to "villain" in "villains enfants", and who cares that they're not the actual translations needed in the context they're used? So they wanted to translate "naughty bit" and it came out as "not very ugly". Just like "bow tie" came out as "cravate d'arc"...
Not a nickname, just the English-to-French equivalent of Engrish. Flançais?
And the rabbit hole is not open yet. I expected it to be the reason for a post at this time...Last edited by Gez; 2009-06-09 at 08:10 PM.
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2009-06-09, 08:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Non, that is when you have a mélange of both vocabulaires because people use expressions or verbs of the other language when they're too paresseux to souvenir themselves of the adequat word in the language they are using.
Just like Engrish is not Japenglese or whatever other portmanteau word you want but pure English, just with mistakes committed through a lack of actual familiarity with the language, here we have English-free French but with mistakes.
AND to move away from this debate, the rabbit hole is open. Zeetha is still horribly cute.Last edited by Gez; 2009-06-09 at 09:01 PM.
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2009-06-09, 09:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Sneaky Gate is open
SpoilerZeetha's bunny tail is so cute. Is it wrong that I want a bunny outfit like that for my wife?
And we see that we had been given a foreshadow of the clock in the tummyLast edited by eMpTy Kay; 2009-06-09 at 09:58 PM.
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2009-06-09, 10:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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SpoilerFashion Clank is giving Der Kestle a run for it's money in terms of which is my favorite sentient clockwork thing
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2009-06-09, 10:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-06-09, 11:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Empty Kay, I was just thinking "Is it wrong I want a bunny outfit like Agatha's"?
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2009-06-09, 11:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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It looks like the Foglios are taking "cute ears" lessons from Shaenon Garrity.
Also: Phil's latest fetish gear only serves to remind me that his was the mind behind XXXenophile.
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2009-06-10, 12:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Depends on how you term "dirty".
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2009-06-10, 01:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Is anyone else really surprised the Zeetha of all people is all happy about the clock? I can see her being like that if the suit had big swords or something, but a clock just doesn't seem like her cup of tea.
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2009-06-10, 01:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Just because Zeetha is a Hot Amazon, she doesn't have to limit her interests to weaponry. For example, she's a huge fan of debauchery, innuendo, and cultivating unusual skills
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2009-06-10, 02:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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She also likes to tweak people. And making comments about the clock is to Krosp the same thing as making comments about the hat to Gil.
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2009-06-10, 04:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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a am a bit surprised Krosp isnt happy about being in a 4 meter tall robotic powered battlesuit with claws, fangs and steam comming out of the nose.
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2009-06-10, 04:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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You can thank Señor Professor Diaz for that one. Who, I'm surprised it hasn't been pointed out yet, is an extended cameo of Cameron Diaz -- look at his hat and compare to Diaz's stickman persona.
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