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2009-07-10, 01:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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[3.5]Clone and Lich, do they stack.
In the core MM it doesn't say anything about souls. So assuming a Lich still has his soul could he cast clone incase both he and his phylactery were destroyed? Would he come back as a Lich or the Base Creature?
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2009-07-10, 01:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5]Clone and Lich, do they stack.
I think what's going to prevent it is this clause in Clone:
To create the duplicate, you must have a piece of flesh (not hair, nails, scales, or the like) with a volume of at least 1 cubic inch that was taken from the original creature’s living body. The piece of flesh need not be fresh, but it must be kept from rotting.
Now. If you had someone cast Clone prior to becoming a lich, things become a bit more unclear, and the questions of does undead count as dead and what happens to a lich's soul become much more important."Experience is a good thing. You should hit it." - Lathandar to his Paladin, in response to her prayers for advice on what to do about a Holy Liberator
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2009-07-10, 01:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5]Clone and Lich, do they stack.
I would say no. The lich being undead can be considered to be have died (and is now undead) for the purposes of the clone spell and so the clone spell would fail. Similarly raise dead fails on undead. The metagaming reason is that cloning a lich is too good a trick even if you then have to worry about the age of the lich in order to whether the clone would work.
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2009-07-10, 02:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5]Clone and Lich, do they stack.
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2009-07-10, 02:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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SpoilerOotS Fan-fiction (An alternate OotS-verse starting after page 603. If you want to read it go here)
bad Erf-poetry
and other sillyness.