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    Default What spell is this? [3E]

    Does anyone recall of a spell that lets you roll two d20s instead of one and pick the better one? Which book is it in?

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    Default Re: What spell is this? [3E]

    There are few things that have similar effects - true strike gives you a +20 on the next attack roll. The luck domain lets you reroll any one dice roll once a day.

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    Default Re: What spell is this? [3E]

    Choose destiny in races of destiny. Its a 9th level destiny domain spell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quick_comment View Post
    Choose destiny in races of destiny. Its a 9th level destiny domain spell.
    That's the one, TYVM.

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    Default Re: What spell is this? [3E]

    Is that re-rolling a single d20, or re-roll any d20s you want for a set duration? If it's the first, then frankly it seems like it sucks as a 9th-level spell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rtg0922 View Post
    Is that re-rolling a single d20, or re-roll any d20s you want for a set duration? If it's the first, then frankly it seems like it sucks as a 9th-level spell.
    It lasts for 1 round/level.

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    I like unluck better. Force your opponents to take the worst of two d20 rolls any time they make such rolls.

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    I like unluck better. Force your opponents to take the worst of two d20 rolls any time they make such rolls.

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    Except IIRC it has a will save. If they're already going to fail a save, why not use a spell that will affect them without any additional resources expended?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sstoopidtallkid View Post
    Except IIRC it has a will save. If they're already going to fail a save, why not use a spell that will affect them without any additional resources expended?
    Because it's fun.

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    Default Re: What spell is this? [3E]

    Well, that, and the fact that making an opponent roll twice for every attack, save, skill check, etc and take the worse result is pretty close to "You Lose". Plus, Unluck is an attack spell in the Divination school, targets Will, yet isn't mind-affecting - very rare combination!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rtg0922 View Post
    Is that re-rolling a single d20, or re-roll any d20s you want for a set duration? If it's the first, then frankly it seems like it sucks as a 9th-level spell.
    It's rerolling every single attack, save, and skill check, and possibly a few other common d20 rolls, that you make during the 1 round/level duration, and you take the better rather than risking having a reroll worse than the original. If the second roll is worse than the first, then you use the first roll.
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    Default Re: What spell is this? [3E]

    It also has a Swift Action casting time, so you don't have to spend a round buffing with it. The Personal range is also nice for DMM: Persistent. A guy at the WotC boards did a critical threat chance spreadsheet for the spell's effect, I think he came up with a Keen Falchion (15-20) having around a 55% chance of scoring a critical threat every attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sstoopidtallkid View Post
    Except IIRC it has a will save. If they're already going to fail a save, why not use a spell that will affect them without any additional resources expended?
    Unluck is considered a good spell, even by the GOD handbook's standards.

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    I agree with Saph - that's an absolutely awesome spell! Just think of all the cruelty potential in that spell.
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