I duddits The Game of Thrones!

[DMgrinder]

I have duddits. I finished A Game of Thrones today. Tomorrow at our DnD meet, I will receive A Clash of Kings.

Has anyone else read this most exelent series, and who is your favorite character(s)?

I like Tyrian Lannister and Jon Snow. Tyrian, because he is probably the best leader of his house, but lacks personal confidence enough to actually claim the lannister crown, and Jon because he is in the place of Martins world that intrigues me the most. I also like Cersi, because she sold the throne from under Robert with her vagina.

One more thing that really puzzles me: What is The Gift? On the map, it's the line below the three castles of the Wall. Really what is it?

[Bookman]

HAHA! We have another in the slow addiction! HMmmmmm favorite character is probably Tyrion and Jon and Bran and Arya (off the top of me head) You should probably also change the subject to soemthing less wierd and easier to understand

[DMgrinder]

This was no slow addiction, man. This was love on page 1.

[Bookman]

Oooooooooooo instant addiction thata's impressive......it took me awhile to get into it.

[InaVegt]

shouldn't this be in one of the gaming sections?

[Gralamin]

I think it might be some book or something...

[Sneak]

Yeah, it's a book,

No, I haven't read it.

Yes, I should read it.

Do you have any more questions?

[InaVegt]

why do you have a goat?

[DMgrinder]

I think it might be some book or something...

Some book, SOME book?! It'sonlythebestbookeverwritten! *smoothes hair* Yes it is a book. A fantasy novel series called: A Song of Ice and Fire. It's fantasy but has little magic (really none so far) and no real monsters. There is a bloodmage (dark healer), the Others (frost monsters, very mysterious), and dragons.

[fwiffo]

Wow, that is quite an achievement. That book doesn't even have pictures or anything. Congrats on finishing it.

[InaVegt]

Wow, that is quite an achievement. That book doesn't even have pictures or anything. Congrats on finishing it.

Books which rely on pictures are A. kids books or B. worthless books

[Sneak]

why do you have a goat?

Why do you have a cow?

And I do believe Fwiffo was being sarcastic.

[DMgrinder]

Wow, that is quite an achievement. That book doesn't even have pictures or anything. Congrats on finishing it.

It does have pictures, it has two maps.

And this guy might be this thing you call a "kid."

[InaVegt]

And this guy might be this thing you call a "kid."

If he's a kid he's lying about his age, it shows in the fourties

[Sneak]

Umm...I think Dmgrinder was talking about himself there.

[InaVegt]

Umm...I think Dmgrinder was talking about himself there.

oh, well since there is no age shown and he doesn't act like a kid I was assuming he wasn't, ah well.

[DMgrinder]

No, I didn't read the guys profile. I guess I'm a "kid", I'm 15.

I have now fixed my profile.

[InaVegt]

No, I didn't read the guys profile. I guess I'm a "kid", I'm 15.

I have now fixed my profile.

That's no kid, I'm 16 and I get enraged if people call me a kid. Sure you can act like a kid when you're 16 but you've grown enough that you're no kid, legal age seperations aren't the only things that count, body and mind state as well.

[DMgrinder]

Ya, but compared to a 40-year-old, I'm a kid.

[InaVegt]

Bo, compared to a 40 year old you're young

[Midnight Son]

Back on subject here. That series is awesome and I hate the damn people on this board for getting me into it. I read all four in about three weeks and now i'm stuck reading other stuff till he feels like putting out the next. I'd be tearing my hair out in frustration if I had any.

Edit: Hah! my first simu, and I simu'ed a goddess, no less.

[Alarra]

And going back to the original topic.....

Yes! This is one of my favorite series ever....everyone should read it! Favorite characters, eh? Hard since I like so many....

Arya or Dany....Jon is great, and Asha (but you wouldn't know her yet), Arianne as well. Davos is pretty cool. I can't help but be fond of Brienne and Tyrion....And Jaime has really moved up there in my esteem in the last book. (feast of crows) Meera's pretty cool too. and Jojen. Frankly I like everyone. Melisandre rocks my world, and I like Stannis in spite of himself.

If you love the books....check out the ccg. It's really great.

[DMgrinder]

And going back to the original topic.....

Yes! This is one of my favorite series ever....everyone should read it! Favorite characters, eh? Hard since I like so many....

Arya or Dany....Jon is great, and Asha (but you wouldn't know her yet), Arianne as well She hasn't been introduced yet. Davos is pretty cool Him neither. I can't help but be fond of Brienne Or her and Tyrion....And Jaime has really moved up there in my esteem in the last book. (feast of crows) Meera's Nope, not even her pretty cool too. and Jojen or him. Frankly I like everyone. Melisandre rocks my world or her, and I like Stannis in spite of himself And Stannis has had no personal evolution or character development besides, "he's the real king".

If you love the books....check out the ccg What's that?. It's really great.

So you told me that alot of characters that I haven't read about are awesome? Works for me, I have something to look forward to :).

Oh but Dany! How could I forget her? Daenerys Stormborn: evening mount of Khal Drogo ;D.

[Bookman]

DARNIT I forgot Dany too! Well she's a cool one too.....I do haveta say that Jaime will haveta rise ALOT to be counted among my favorite characters. CCG is collectible card game which I haven't played yet. They also have a d20 system which looks pretty good.

[Don Beegles]

Yes, it was mentioned so much in teh Book You LIke thread that I had no choice but to read it and I didn't regret it. It's not as action-packed and can't put down as some otehr books I've read because the continual interlace slows some of the plotlines, but luckily they are all so interesting that this is really irrelevant. I recently finished A Clash of Kings and am going to reserve the next one today at the library.

As for my favorite character, I'd have to say eitehr the Hound or Tyrion, both of whom are rather complex. The Hound seems like jsut a brute, but then he surprises you with a good deed, before becoming a brute again, and I am really confused as to which is actually true. Tyrion is very similar, in that at times he seems like a hero, but at others he sells people out and betrays, and I can't quite put my finger on why exactly he acts the way he does. Is he a good person who just has some loyalty to his family? Or is a jerk who does good thigns to get what he wants? I'm certain it's not that latter, but teh former doesn't define him either.

That's really the great thing about the books: none of the characters can really be fit into a simple description and only a dozen or so can really be described as 'evil', which is saying something considering the number of characters in each book. And it seems like most of the ones who seem evil end up having some reason and redeeming points which are revealed later. Like Stannis and Melisandre. When you meet them there seems like nothing to them but desire to rule, but evidently, based on what Alarra says, there is pobably more to that than what meets the eye.

[Oeryn]

So you told me that alot of characters that I haven't read about are awesome? Works for me, I have something to look forward to :).

Yeah, there are a whole bunch of cool new characters in front of you. But, there's a downside to that, too. Which I won't spoil for you, but you'll find out soon enough, if you're a new Martin fan....

[TinSoldier]

I really like this series and I need to go back and re-read them. I didn't like Feast for Crows that much though. I can't wait for the next book!

Then again, I already had to wait two years past its due date for Feast. (*shrugs*)

[Alarra]

Well, it shouldn't take as long for the next one as most of dance with dragons is already written.

I wasn't as big a fan of feast for crows either. It seemed he introduced too many unnecessary characters. There was also the way that he split this book and the next one. While I think it was the best way for the books to work, I didn't like that they didn't feature a lot of the characters at all and we have to wait until the next book to find out what they were during while all of feast for crows was going on.

I think part of my problem with it was that most of my favorite characters got cut to the next book, so I'm really looking forward to that one. By all accounts dance with dragons should be out before the end of the year *crosses fingers*

I don't know what was different about this book from the rest. I mean, he's still an amazing writer and the characters and plot and conversation were still top notch, I just didn't have the 'I can't put this down" feeling that the others gave me. It may have been denser and that I wasn't as 'connected' to a lot of the new voices. I mean, who wants to hear Cersei whine anyway? but it took me much longer to plow through feast for crows than any of the previous books.

(and darn it alarra, stop posting, you have far too much packing to do)

[Steve_the_ERB]

One more thing that really puzzles me: What is The Gift? On the map, it's the line below the three castles of the Wall. Really what is it?

I'll actually try to answer the original question here since I don't think anyone's covered it yet. The Gift is the all the land north of said line given to the black brothers for their support. So basically their fief. Its discussed in one of the later books that the Gift is actually two parts: the Kings gift and Brandon's gift (I believe, going on memory here). The Kings gift was the initial land grant of the land closest to the Wall and then at some later time one of the multitude of Brandon Starks extended the area further south.

[OffSide7]

Am I the only one who likes Sansa best?