Results 1 to 30 of 49
Thread: No God for Humans?
-
2009-09-14, 11:08 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2007
- Location
- Indianapolis, Indiana
- Gender
No God for Humans?
It occurred to me tonight that in all of the D&D editions that I'm aware of, there are no deities for humans. All of the other races, even Kobolds, get a god, or at least someone/something to say "I created this thing on the material plane," but humans have nothing.
Has anyone else noticed this, or am I missing something? A friend of mine says that it's to show that humans need no deistic support to exist, but I'm not entirely sure that's the case.Druid-Ninjatar by the sensuous Serpentine.
-
2009-09-14, 11:16 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Aug 2009
- Location
- New Brunswick, Canada
- Gender
Re: No God for Humans?
Pelor is usually the bread and butter god for most humans.
-
2009-09-14, 11:16 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jan 2009
- Gender
Re: No God for Humans?
It is implied that, unless stated otherwise, if a god isn't directly tied to a certain race, it is a human god. Because humans are better that way.
-
2009-09-14, 11:17 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jul 2008
- Location
- the abyss (aka NJ)
- Gender
-
2009-09-14, 11:19 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jan 2008
- Gender
Re: No God for Humans?
pelor absolutely rocks...
1. Improved healing
2. Absolutely annihilates undead. (about the only cleric that can effective turn high level undead)
What MORE could a cleric want?
Anyways, as said before... Each race gets ONE and ONLY one god... humans get every single other god that isn't race specific. Which there are TONS of.Last edited by taltamir; 2009-09-14 at 11:20 PM.
I do not have a superman complex; for I am God, not Superman!
the glass is always 100% full. Approximately 50% of its volume is full of dihydrogen monoxide and some dissolved solutes, and approx 50% a mixture of gasses known as "air" which contains roughly (by volume) 78.08% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.038% carbon dioxide, and trace amounts of other gases.
-
2009-09-14, 11:19 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Oct 2006
- Location
- Grad. School
- Gender
Re: No God for Humans?
Vecna? extra characters
-
2009-09-14, 11:21 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Oct 2008
Re: No God for Humans?
Defining a specific deity (or a lack of one) for the human race would be impossible to do without alienating a few customers due to conflict of beliefs so it is left vague. This would be the obvious answer at least, I have no confirmation.
-
2009-09-14, 11:24 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Oct 2005
- Location
- Portland
- Gender
Re: No God for Humans?
There is a god for humans in races of destiny.
AVATAR by Ninjaman!
Elf ranger went a scoutin' and found a half-dragon ogre with a greataxe. I soon had a half-elf. ~ Pelfaid's first character death.
-
2009-09-14, 11:25 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2009
- Location
- Cascadia
- Gender
Re: No God for Humans?
Don't forget about Zarus.
-
2009-09-14, 11:26 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- May 2008
Re: No God for Humans?
Because Zarus sure hasn't forgotten about you.
-
2009-09-14, 11:27 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jul 2007
Re: No God for Humans?
Any god that is not specificly an elf, halfling, ect god is by defalt human. Humans have more gods than any other race. Alot of gods used to be human.
St. Cuthburt, Helm, Mystra, The Red Knight, Kelemvor all used to be mortal humans befor granted godhood.
D&D has always has a human sentric point of view. 3rd ed still has it to a small degree. Humans are usualy the most dominant race in published campaign worlds.
EDIT
Damn thats a lot of ninjasLast edited by Hawriel; 2009-09-14 at 11:28 PM.
-
2009-09-14, 11:28 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Apr 2009
- Location
- Montreal-ish
- Gender
-
2009-09-14, 11:44 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jan 2009
- Gender
Re: No God for Humans?
First time I read the page for Zarus, I got through the first two paragraphs and thought "wow, this certainly reminds me of some other human creation story i've read somewhere else..." and skipped the rest of the descriptor.
Boy was i surprised when i read the rest of it later :P
Also, from the same book, Urbanus (from the page before, even) is pretty much a human centric god. Hes listed as the god of cities, but he really only shared all his visions with humans (only going so far as to say he 'accepts' non-humans)
-
2009-09-14, 11:54 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Sep 2007
- Location
- Northeast USA
- Gender
Re: No God for Humans?
Humans are usually assumed to be the "default" race, most flexible/adaptable/diverse, so why limit them to one racial deity. *Sighs*
-
2009-09-14, 11:57 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jan 2008
- Gender
Re: No God for Humans?
humans are the shortest lived player characters... with the exception of orcs... the rest of the races can spend a lifetime discussing things like religion and coming to agreements. Humans, on the other hand, often just go with the flow becaue their days are so numbered...
Orcs live even less than humans, but have one god because they are simple, and bloodthirsty folk... whose only god is evil, and had all the other worshipers / gods slaughtered making him the ONLY orc god.I do not have a superman complex; for I am God, not Superman!
the glass is always 100% full. Approximately 50% of its volume is full of dihydrogen monoxide and some dissolved solutes, and approx 50% a mixture of gasses known as "air" which contains roughly (by volume) 78.08% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.038% carbon dioxide, and trace amounts of other gases.
-
2009-09-15, 12:01 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Mar 2009
-
2009-09-15, 12:06 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2009
- Location
- Cascadia
- Gender
-
2009-09-15, 12:09 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2008
-
2009-09-15, 12:10 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Mar 2009
- Location
- Austin TX
- Gender
Re: No God for Humans?
Humans get all the non-specific gods. Warforged, however, are in need of a deity.
Avatar by me. It's Incendius Darkscale, a Good Dragonborn Dragon Sorcerer, Demonskin Adept, Prince of Hell, worshiper of the Platinum Dragon (Bahamut), specializing in Fire and Lightning, wielding a staff in each hand.
-
2009-09-15, 12:12 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Oct 2005
- Location
- Portland
- Gender
Re: No God for Humans?
AVATAR by Ninjaman!
Elf ranger went a scoutin' and found a half-dragon ogre with a greataxe. I soon had a half-elf. ~ Pelfaid's first character death.
-
2009-09-15, 12:18 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jul 2009
Re: No God for Humans?
The Book of Vile Darkness details how humans were created by a group of gods. Or at least, how they originally attempted the process, but failed when their proto-human race prooved to violent and deadly. They then took "what they learned", and made the current version of the Human race. However, the original survived and his descendants are still around, but that is neither here-nor-there.
Also, I believe one of the 3.5 splat books (Races of the Wild maybe?) had a creation myth where Humanity was birthed to a Halfling mother, and was fathered by both a Dwarf and an Elf?
-
2009-09-15, 12:21 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jul 2009
Re: No God for Humans?
Ah, no. There is an antire ORc pantheon.
See here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orc_deities
-
2009-09-15, 12:43 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jan 2008
- Gender
Re: No God for Humans?
even better... so orcs and humans as short lived... ah heck. I bet there are splat materials expanding each race to have an entire pantheanon... heck there should be so many gods, considering beings can ascent, and devine rank 16-19 rule lower ranked gods as "kings would commoners". plus every mortal / god crossbreed is an automatic divinity 0 demigod who is immortal save being slain in combat.
I do not have a superman complex; for I am God, not Superman!
the glass is always 100% full. Approximately 50% of its volume is full of dihydrogen monoxide and some dissolved solutes, and approx 50% a mixture of gasses known as "air" which contains roughly (by volume) 78.08% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.038% carbon dioxide, and trace amounts of other gases.
-
2009-09-15, 01:05 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- May 2006
- Location
-
2009-09-15, 01:14 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jun 2009
Re: No God for Humans?
It's probably a because D&D is so human centric that all races except humans are virtually monotheistic while humans basically have all the rest. Of course there is Zarus for the racist humans and he's pretty similar in that respect to many of the evil racial deities.
Most of the other races also have the creation myths to go by their exclusive deities. What about humans in D&D? They seem to indicate that humans have no specific creation myth and that they came later. But if they were created later why are there so effin many of them. I think it would make more sense if humans were the first humanoids on the material plane and the rest were either created later or came from their respective deities planar dominions afterwards.
I figure that the healing domain would make Pelor the favourite of the human commoner while the upper classes would favour Hieronymus, St. Cuthbert and Hextor according to alignment and then the rest.
-
2009-09-15, 01:30 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jul 2007
- Location
- Terra Australis
- Gender
Re: No God for Humans?
My winning competition entries: Kinvig Arrumskor | The Great Pumpkinhead | Wynfrith d'Acker
Torn-City - Massively multiplayer online browser based crime RPG
-
2009-09-15, 01:41 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- May 2008
-
2009-09-15, 03:42 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Sep 2007
- Location
- In Orbis RPG drafts
- Gender
Re: No God for Humans?
Last edited by Armoury99; 2009-09-15 at 03:44 AM.
Coming Soon....
Orbis Terrarum RPG: Gritty heroism in a customisable world of secrets, daemons, and strange ecologies...The historical roleplaying game of a make-believe world. Meet us on Facebook, Google Plus, and coming soon to kickstarter!
-
2009-09-15, 04:29 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Oct 2008
- Location
- Xin-Shalast
- Gender
Re: No God for Humans?
<_< >_>
It's because most of the humanoids are just the results of gods, well, playing god with whatever tribes of humans they were able to steal when they were still playing with skins and flint knives.
Burning Hate, but does it still work? http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=846926
-
2009-09-15, 05:57 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Dec 2004
- Location
- The Land of Angles
Re: No God for Humans?
Actually, humans are, like, the second-youngest race (halflings being the youngest). Or possibly the youngest.
Depending on which creation myth you read.
Humans are still pretty young by cosmic standards!