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Thread: The best part of 4e for you.
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2009-09-23, 08:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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The best part of 4e for you.
I know my favorite part is the fact that Dwarven women actually look hot now, wouldn't you agree?
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2009-09-23, 08:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The best part of 4e for you.
Meh. If I wanted to see dwarf women, I'd be going to Duke University instead.
My favorite part of 4e is that the Fighter is useful!
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2009-09-23, 08:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The best part of 4e for you.
more control over the shape of the battlefield.
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2009-09-23, 08:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-09-23, 08:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The best part of 4e for you.
I like that the game actually encourages teamwork & group tactics, rather than the personal aggregation of power, as seen in 3rd Edition.
There, I gave 4E a genuine compliment, without mitigation. You're welcome.
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2009-09-23, 08:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-09-23, 08:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The best part of 4e for you.
Putting everyone on a more level playing field, and being able to rely on your fellow players (because you have no choice).
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2009-09-23, 08:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Character usefulness and ease of build are the ONLY things I like about 4e. And yet my DM refuses to go back to 3.5.
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2009-09-23, 08:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The best part of 4e for you.
All classes are useful, fun to play, and have options in battles.
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2009-09-23, 09:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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I like that the paladin finally gets the attention and respect it deserves.
"Reach down into your heart and you'll find many reasons to fight. Survival. Honor. Glory. But what about those who feel it's their duty to protect the innocent? There you'll find a warrior savage enough to match any dragon, and in the end, they'll retain what the others won't. Their humanity."
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2009-09-23, 09:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-09-23, 09:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The best part of 4e for you.
The best part is the Teamwork. There are a lot of other good parts though.
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2009-09-23, 10:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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My favorite is the separation of combat spells from noncombat Rituals. (I houserule most Rituals to be either very very cheap or quite quick, so that they're not useless.)
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2009-09-23, 10:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-09-23, 10:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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I like all the extra hit points. The last 3.5 game I played had too many players and when we opened a new door in the dungeon, monsters were often defeated by the time my initiative order came up (on a low roll). The system doesn't set itself up for short battles.
I really like that only the attacker rolls.
I really really like the character builder (but I would like it more if I could use it on my Mac at home).
And (as a retailer) I like that it reenergized WOTC sales from the end of 3.5.
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2009-09-23, 10:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The best part of 4e for you.
The significant cost reduction in 3.x materials.
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2009-09-23, 10:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-09-23, 10:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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My mother says: those on fire should roll.
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2009-09-23, 10:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The best part of 4e for you.
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2009-09-23, 11:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The best part of 4e for you.
My favorite part is the character builder.
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2009-09-23, 11:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The best part of 4e for you.
-Newbie friendly
-Fun combat
-Straightforward
-Teamwork, teamwork, teamwork...Anemoia: Nostalgia for a time you've never known.
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2009-09-23, 11:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The best part of 4e for you.
Half-Elves don't suck!
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2009-09-23, 11:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The best part of 4e for you.
My List:
-Tank classes having ways to focus enemy attacks on themselves
-Decent hp for characters
-Heal-bot role spread out across several classes instead of sunk into one class
-Minions
-Condensed skill list
-No confirming crits
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2009-09-23, 11:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The best part of 4e for you.
there are very few things good about 4e one of them is that combat does tend to move faster, i however feel that this is because it is limited.
You are given cards that say what kind of attacks you can make, In 3.5 a player will ask me something like "can i stab that NPC through the foot and stick him to the ground" we then decide on likelihood and possible outcomes and roll for it. In 4e it is far too easy for a dm to say "Do you have that combat power" and the player has to say no.
I feel like 4e has tried to take away a DM's ability to improvise by making the combat child like which feels more like a game of top trumps than a role playing game.
That being said i do like:
The extra HP most characters get, including the ways to heal yourself from bloodied.
How easy things are for a dm as no one has to open a book to search for their feat/spell/ability.
I also love how AC goes up with level. This was always a big gripe of mine with 3.5 and below. I used to enact a similar system myself and just give out less armour and magical items for armour.
{Scrubbed} 3.5 still wins it for me as i feel more in control and better able to improvise without a player shoving a card in my face.
xLast edited by Roland St. Jude; 2009-09-24 at 09:56 AM.
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2009-09-23, 11:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The best part of 4e for you.
Honestly, my favorite part is the jokes I can get from it. But if we are looking at this relative to 3.5, I don't miss save or dies. At all. Then again, I crack jokes at 3.5 fairly frequently as well, so no turning this into an edition war.
I also like the new way of doing criticals, and the idea of weapon dice building up, rather than just getting bonuses, although I'm not fond of the implementation. Mostly its the jokes though.I would really like to see a game made by Obryn, Kurald Galain, and Knaight from these forums.
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2009-09-23, 11:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-09-23, 11:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The best part of 4e for you.
Pretty much everything except discussing it on forums.
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2009-09-24, 12:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The best part of 4e for you.
-non-mages being combat capable at all levels
-when you level up you actually learn to defend yourself
-action points are core!
-the idea & concept of skill challenges being core
-the inclusion of races that are more then just "humans with funny foreheads", like the dragonborn from the get-go
-Level 1 Minotaur Fighter. playing as a "monster" from level 1 to 30 that isn't a standard goblin/orc/kobold/ect...
-dwarves are still made of awesome and win. much love for my bearded bretheren
-the seperation of elf & eladrin into the "woodsy" elf and "magic" elf. i would have rather they they swap one of the two for the full orc though in the PHB
-alignment losing it's mechanical overtones and being purely background fluff
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2009-09-24, 12:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The best part of 4e for you.
Like most people, the fact a fighter can be a badass too.
The fact the minions rule was a stroke of genius.
Humans' +2 to any stat is a different way to make them feel flexable.
I actually like 4e overall, I just prefer the older versions.
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2009-09-24, 12:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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