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2009-11-20, 01:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Sharing Wild Shape with another character? Good alternate uses?
Currently I'm a 23rd level Wizard/Druid/Mystic Theurge/Arcane Heirophant. 9th level spells both sides. Pretty much 24 hours a day I've got the spell Shapechange up, usually in the form of a Solar.
So the thing is, I'm virtually NEVER using my Wild Shape class feature. Why Wild Shape when Shapechange is SOOO much tastier?
Now, how can I use this to my advantage? I seem to recall a spell or something that allowed you to transfer some of your Wild Shape uses to allies, anyone know where that is/exactly what it does?
Any other good things to do with it? I know in I think Complete Divine I can give myself the Axiomatic/Anarchic/Celestial/Fiendish template, but nothing that it provides outshines what being shapechanged into a Solar ALREADY provides.
Any other uses? Any Alternate Class Features I can trade my Wild Shape for without losing my Animal Companion?
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2009-11-20, 01:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Jun 2007
Re: Sharing Wild Shape with another character? Good alternate uses?
A level in Hierophant with the Power of Nature ability.
1. Take a PRC or grab a feat that gives you some appealing wild shape form.
2. Buy some riding dogs.
3. Give each of them one 24-hour use of wild shape. It doesn't say one way or another in the SRD, but it is implied (If the hierophant can assume the form of Tiny or Huge animals, the recipient can as well) that they'll be able to wild shape into the new, awesome form you picked up.
4. Have fun with your army of dragons. (Or elementals, or aberrations, or whatever)
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2009-11-20, 01:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Sharing Wild Shape with another character? Good alternate uses?
Of course with a spellstoring ring everyone can just have shapechange up all the time instead.
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2009-11-20, 01:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Sharing Wild Shape with another character? Good alternate uses?
A major spellstoring Ring is Hella expensive though.
Heirophant looks... not bad. It would be fun to give Wild Shape to my compadres. Could I give one use to multiple people each? Divine Reach also looks decent.
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2009-11-20, 01:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Sharing Wild Shape with another character? Good alternate uses?
Wait- the "metamagic feat" part of Heirophant? Seriously? SERIOUSLY?!?! A free metamagic feat every friggin' level?!?!
Please tell me Heirophant is in a book and not just the SRD?!?!
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2009-11-20, 01:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Sharing Wild Shape with another character? Good alternate uses?
Nope, it's SRD. Thing is, unlike Archmage, it has 0/5 casting progression. You may get loads metamagic feats, but you will have lower spell levels to use them on, unless like the OP you're playing at Epic levels, and if you're using Epic to prove something disbalanced... well, Epic Spellcasting says no to you.
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2009-11-20, 01:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Sharing Wild Shape with another character? Good alternate uses?
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2009-11-20, 01:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Oct 2008
Re: Sharing Wild Shape with another character? Good alternate uses?
Yes, I'm already Epic, and have capped out my Divine AND Arcane spellcasting classes, plus with my Practiced Spellcaster feats on both sides I've still got one more dead level I could take and still have my caster level go up (Practiced Spellcaster Granting +4 caster level, I'm only Wizard 3/Druid 3 before I prestiged. So I'm not that concerned about upping my caster level anymore, and CAN'T get anymore spells. And, when it comes to Epic spellcasting, I'm barely going to have time to research an Epic Dispel before the campaign ends in game, out of game who knows how long it'll take. Besides, I'm not going to use Epic Spellcasting to break anything.
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2009-11-20, 02:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Sharing Wild Shape with another character? Good alternate uses?
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2009-11-20, 02:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Jun 2007
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2009-11-20, 02:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Sharing Wild Shape with another character? Good alternate uses?
Last edited by PinkysBrain; 2009-11-20 at 02:10 PM.
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2009-11-20, 02:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Sharing Wild Shape with another character? Good alternate uses?
1.5 million? SERIOUSLY?!?!.... Ouch.
We started at 22nd level with 750,000 GP. We've received a total of 200,000 each since then.
Looking on the SRD I see that I can lose my Wild shape and instead become "A swift and deadly hunter" - gain Monk's bonus to Armor class, fast movement as monk, favored enemy as ranger, swift tracker as ranger, and track feat.
All for losing armor and shield proficiency, or which I use neither (Bracers of Armor with Soulfire enhancement thank you very much), and losing Wild shape. Shapechange more than makes up for that.
And looking at the Wizard Variant: Domain Wizard. I'm already not specialized, using this I lose NOTHING and gain a spell per level... *heartwarming*
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2009-11-20, 06:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Sharing Wild Shape with another character? Good alternate uses?
Elemental Wild Shape gives the feats and doesn't specify that you lose your existing feats. This can be really nice. If you're using the Hierophant option, see if any of your party members would like one form or the other.